$240,000 "lemon"

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SEATTLE - His bright orange Lamborghini is a "lemon" - and a Seattle real estate investor can prove it.

Now the exotic automaker has to give Ralph Gertz a full refund - $240,000 - proving that price is no object when it comes to the state's lemon law.

Lemon or not, Gertz's 2008 Lamborghini Gallardo Spider convertible is the kind of car most of us can only dream about.

"It's a wonderful car," he admits. The design is exquisite. The craftsmanship, unmatched.

But for $240,000, Gertz doesn't want noisy brakes.

"The brakes started squealing and screeching," he says. So he took it back to the dealer.

"They told me it takes a while for the brakes to break in."

Gertz waited - got frustrated - and went back to the dealer again.

"It still screeched and squealed, whatever," he says. "So that was my third time."

Gertz drove his squeaky Lamborghini to his winter home in Scottsdale, Ariz., and had it checked out there - five times.

Lamborghini flew in mechanics from Italy - and even they couldn't fix the problem. They told Gertz there was nothing else they could do.

"I'm just very, very disappointed that a manufacturer would take that stance with a customer," he says.

So Gertz filed a claim under Washington state's lemon law - and won. The arbitrator ruled Lamborghini had to refund the full purchase price - $240,000.

The Attorney General's Office runs the lemon law program. Attorney General Rob McKenna says this case proves "money can't buy you a lemon-proof life." But if you do get stuck with one, he says, "State law is there to protect you."
 

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Fuck them dealers.

I had a problem with my 2009 Subaru WRX's headlights. TONS of condesation was forming, they said, "it's a normal issue." WHich I knew was bullshit. It's may be a normal PROBLEM but it's NOT normal to have tons of condesation in your headlamps ALL the time, even in 75 degree dry weather.

So I called a Subaru specialist, they said BULLSHIT. Told me exactly what to say and how to go about it.

I called the dealer, the cat I bought it from (good dude and he helped me out a lot)...told him, "You're going to fix this, I called another Subaru place and they said the service dept is LYING to me (which they were, blatantly). If I have to call your corporate HQ it's getting done, and if it goes that far I"m gettin peopel fired."

So he and the GM went to the service dept, reemed the fuck who lied to me, and Subaru's regional manager got involved, and basically put the guy on probation after he's worked there fo r10+ yaers.

I told them, "it might be a problem that you normally see, but it IS a problem, and you are GOING to fix it, now."

They fixed it, no charge.

But I also told dude, "try to fix it another 3-4 times, keep it for another 4 weeks (they had it for 2), and when you can't fix it you can give me a new car under the lemon law."

They took me serious after that, and I got my shit back looking and driving exactly how it should have when I bought it.
 
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I think I know what dealership he bought that Lambo from. I dont know why he bought the Orange one, they also had Silver one, just like the one that was used in Batman. So sick.
 

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Lamborghini flew in mechanics from Italy - and even they couldn't fix the problem. They told Gertz there was nothing else they could do.

"I'm just very, very disappointed that a manufacturer would take that stance with a customer," he says.
Yeah, me too. I'd hate it if I bought a Lambo, and the only thing they did to take care of my query was fly in mechanics that put the car together at the plant over in Bolognese. BUNCHA FUCKIN ASSHOLES, THEY ARE.
 
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I almost wish I felt bad for him, lol. But that "Theres nothing we can do" sounds like bullshit to me, it makes no sense. Regardless of what kind of car it is components making contact with components should have a way to solve the squeeking.
 
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Yeah, me too. I'd hate it if I bought a Lambo, and the only thing they did to take care of my query was fly in mechanics that put the car together at the plant over in Bolognese. BUNCHA FUCKIN ASSHOLES, THEY ARE.
LOL

odds are if the dudes cruisin a Lambo and has a winter house in AZ, hes probably a rich douchebag
 

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Yeah, me too. I'd hate it if I bought a Lambo, and the only thing they did to take care of my query was fly in mechanics that put the car together at the plant over in Bolognese. BUNCHA FUCKIN ASSHOLES, THEY ARE.
That's a good point...however...I agree withi what's quoted below.

But that "Theres nothing we can do" sounds like bullshit to me, it makes no sense. Regardless of what kind of car it is components making contact with components should have a way to solve the squeeking.
For real. There's always something you can do to fix metal contacting metal. And if you can't, then you give the guy a brand new car no questions asked especially when that's the price of a fucking house, 2 houses in some areas.

Noise like that is likely cause by some form of friction. Which means two or more components of the car were rubbing/grinding/touching when they shouldn't be.

That whole, "the breaks aren't worn in" shit I don't buy either. Maybe for less than 50 miles but come on, really? I don't think so. I'm not expert but I haven't heard of brand new breaks making fucked up noises to the point where you would take it to the dealer and say something is wrong.

I think they just didn't want to have to give him a new car. Regardless of customer service, that's a lot of money.

All in all though, there's bound to be one shitty car. At least they did replace it after all that. But on the 6th time they couldn't fix it, he should have had a brand new car waiting for him, or a loaner til they got him his new shit....like i said I'm stoned so i don't remember how many times they looked at it...and i don't care! lol
 
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lol, it aint even like they would have lost money on it, take his squeakin shit back, give him a different one, sell the squeaker to some other overly rich asshole @ 220k instead, tell him its the brakes breaking in, someones bound to believe it.
 

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lol, it aint even like they would have lost money on it, take his squeakin shit back, give him a different one, sell the squeaker to some other overly rich asshole @ 220k instead, tell him its the brakes breaking in, someones bound to believe it.
They could get seriously fucked in the ass for doing that. They don't want to risk that over one car.
 
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They could get seriously fucked in the ass for doing that. They don't want to risk that over one car.
I dont know how much more trouble they would get into with a new owner, over if the original owner bought the lie. Either way they could tear out the entire braking system and sell whats left for over 100k, or fix it and auction it off for profit...whatever though, fuck a lambo, Imma go put some gas in my pick-up truck and call it a night, lol.
 

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I mean selling a car that is known to be fucked up or a lemon. That's not legal.

And the Attorney General's office looks down upon that shit. They'd get a shitload of fines. At the very least.
 

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The bottom line is the brakes were probably not nearly as bad as he made them out to be. It probably boiled down to him getting bored of the color, or the leather not being soft enough, so he saw opportunity in the brakes making noise.

Exotic cars are built differently than luxury cars. He could have also warped them with too many "high acceleration, running out of road" stops.