2018 Kia Stinger: A RWD Sports Sedan Aimed Straight for the Germans

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Better than American cars, but can't touch German cars...
Yeah but German cars are expensive as fuck to get any work done on. Oh your headlight went out? No problem, that will be $1,2500.00!"

The Jap cars are typically the cheapest to maintain, Toyota Camry usually is the best in costs, Honda not too far behind. They say a Toyota is generally about $10,000 less expensive over 10 years just in terms of maintenance compared to a German car.

Of course if you're buying a new car every few years or so you don't have to worry about it, or if you lease a car and get a new one every 2-3 years which is what I like to do since i don't know shit about cars besides the basics (I always hated knowing I was getting ripped off at a repair shop but not knowing enough to be able to call them out on their bullshit).
 
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Yeah but German cars are expensive as fuck to get any work done on. Oh your headlight went out? No problem, that will be $1,2500.00!"

The Jap cars are typically the cheapest to maintain, Toyota Camry usually is the best in costs, Honda not too far behind. They say a Toyota is generally about $10,000 less expensive over 10 years just in terms of maintenance compared to a German car.

Of course if you're buying a new car every few years or so you don't have to worry about it, or if you lease a car and get a new one every 2-3 years which is what I like to do since i don't know shit about cars besides the basics (I always hated knowing I was getting ripped off at a repair shop but not knowing enough to be able to call them out on their bullshit).


@1:25 this dude is so right.....i've seen a lot of R-Class Mercedes

riding leaning to one side or pancaked because of shock absorber issues (im assuming)

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJ64sTa7KI[/video]
 
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A car lease? Hell naw, we call that a car fleece. They get you every which way with a lease (ending up costing you more than buying with cash) and there is no truth in lending with the absence of interest rate disclosure.
It will cost more if you try to buy the car after the lease, you should generally never do that, but if you want a new car every 2 or 3 years then there's nothing wrong with leasing and the car payments will be lower compared to buying.

If you want to finance a car to own it after 4-5 years, sure go for it. Personally, I prefer the idea of driving a new car every couple years with low monthly payments and never having to deal with car repairs and maintenance (the only thing I have to do is get a free synthetic oil change once every 10,000 miles which is covered under the lease). I've bought cars plenty of times in the past, thats what I always did and I'm not a fan, for me buying has been nothing but an anti-investment, dumping money and time into the car. I'm cool with all that. My last three cars I've leased and its been so much better not having to worry about anything.



Its not for everyone, but neither is buying a new car. And im sure there are shitty lease deals out there just like there are shitty deals buying a car. I've heard people say you eill het charged all kinds of fees and penalties leasing, which I've never been charged a penalty. I hear people say you're responsible for the maintenance, etc., which again the only thing I've had to do is get a couple oil changes which are free and there really isn't much maintenance required for the first 2-3 years (which is the whole point), I've never paid a dollar for maintenance.
 
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I'll probably lease my next car for the same reasons as 2-0 sixx. I fucked myself when I leased a new Acura TL in '03. I was trying to live way beyond my means at the time and I drove the shit out of it so I had no choice but to keep it when the lease was up. Now that I pretty much only drive my car to the BART station and back, I think a lease makes sense for me
 
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I'll probably lease my next car for the same reasons as 2-0 sixx. I fucked myself when I leased a new Acura TL in '03. I was trying to live way beyond my means at the time and I drove the shit out of it so I had no choice but to keep it when the lease was up. Now that I pretty much only drive my car to the BART station and back, I think a lease makes sense for me
I wonder how the lease was structured back then compared to how they do things now. In my experience they've been pretty liberal with miles per year and I've gone over twice and each time i wasn't penalized for it, from my understanding they just want you to get another car so they'll waive whatever to make that happen. Perhaps its just the dealership I've dealt with though. Anyways, I've always smoked in my cars, drove 15,000 miles per year give or take, no problem.

im sure though if you drive 10,000 miles more per year than what was in the deal or whatever than that would be an issue. Personally I pretty much just drive to work and girlfriends houses, and whatever else random shit locally (I'm not driving out of state multiple times a year or anything like that), but I've never once had to actually be conscious about mileage and worry about going over a number.
 
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i think it looks sick. i heard that kia actually employed the guy who designs audis to design the stinger as well as the guy in charge of bmws m performance to develop the engine/suspension. so theyre definitely stepping up their game. they were developing that twin turbo v6 like 2 years ago i assumed it was for the gen coupe but was mildly surprised when they dropped this car. im sure the 4 cyl will be the $35k and the v6 TT will be at least $45k
 

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i think it looks sick. i heard that kia actually employed the guy who designs audis to design the stinger as well as the guy in charge of bmws m performance to develop the engine/suspension. so theyre definitely stepping up their game. they were developing that twin turbo v6 like 2 years ago i assumed it was for the gen coupe but was mildly surprised when they dropped this car. im sure the 4 cyl will be the $35k and the v6 TT will be at least $45k
Looks like an evolution of the Optima. Also I didnt know about the guy from Audi or BMW going over to Kia/Hyundai. With that being said, I wonder if thats where the Audi A7 outline of the car came from. And in past reviews Kia/Hyundai have been lacking in the ride/handling dept so it should definately be interesting to see where things go from here.

The v6tt can currently be found in the Genesis G80 Sport. Ive seen a couple....pretty dope.