$2,000 Software EQ!!!
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It sounds pricey but if it works as good as they say the price..its not bad at all...hardware can be super expensive as well..like this $11,000 EQ..
http://www.mercenary.com/gml95dualcha.html
Remember there are people who do music for a living and having the right tools can save them hours of work and money. Eq is a valuable tool and not all Eq's are created equal
http://www.mercenary.com/gml95dualcha.html
Remember there are people who do music for a living and having the right tools can save them hours of work and money. Eq is a valuable tool and not all Eq's are created equal
this is 100% true all eq's arent equal and do not sound the same. and software is getting pretty close to the quality of hardware these days so i wouldn't rule out a software eq because of the price. you would be suprised what you can do with the right software and the right set of ears. me personally though, i would never spend 2000 for an eq - but im not mixing or mastering a bunch of albums/films/games like most professional engineers will do. those are professional products.
another example is to look at the cost of the waves plugins www.waves.com
another example is to look at the cost of the waves plugins www.waves.com
That EQ seems to be more precise though. This Genwave EQ I'm talking about seems more like an enhancer. I mean you can't really specify the exact frequencies, rather just get close to the freq. range your looking for. Basically with this plugin it seems like your just "sweeping" across the frequencies with the dial knob until you get it to sound the way you want it to. Yeah it has an indicator from 18Hz - 27kHz, +15/-15 dbs per 5 bands, but you can't be exact.
I would say it sounds damn good. It doesn't seem to distort the signal or anything even when you go up 15dbs. So the character of the sound pretty much stays the same.
I would say it sounds damn good. It doesn't seem to distort the signal or anything even when you go up 15dbs. So the character of the sound pretty much stays the same.
I would have to go analog outbaord till the wheels fall off....
For 2 Gz, I would get a Manely Pultec EQP-1AM or a Vintech X81... I could also consider a Chandler Germanium Tone Control if I wanted to have 550 left over to spend on plugs (of which a Sonnox EQ would still leave you with 180 in ya pocket)...
I do love the way a lot of my plugs sound (UAD-1, Powercore Sonnox, want to get a Duende), but at the end of the day, it's nothing more than an equation of 1's and 0's - of which most are construed in a way to mimic the repsonse of analog frequencies as they're being manipulated by transistors, tubes, and other nuances exclusive to the realm of analog...
As far as plug-ins go, I believe Universal Audio to be the best at emulating classic hardware... my UAD-1 cards are fully stocked; the Neve 1073 & 1081 are some of the best EQs on the market and the LA2A is one of my go to plugs for compression...
but...
when compared to the mojo of a hardware Neve 1084 going into an LA2A reissue while tracking vocals (which I was fortunate enough to have the pleasure of doing the other night)... I could never see myself spending thousands on a plug!
Maybe the digital emulations will improve in the future to the point of leaving our current plug-ins obselete?
That would be another justification for going with the hardware, if one wants to invest their money in something that will always be relevant...
At times it seems that the greatest attributes of plug-ins are the way they are marketed... how else can one justify the prosumer's buying emulations of Aphex's Aural Exciter when the actual hardware unit is $300 cheaper?
.. just my .02 & looking forward to hearing others' opinions!
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For 2 Gz, I would get a Manely Pultec EQP-1AM or a Vintech X81... I could also consider a Chandler Germanium Tone Control if I wanted to have 550 left over to spend on plugs (of which a Sonnox EQ would still leave you with 180 in ya pocket)...
I do love the way a lot of my plugs sound (UAD-1, Powercore Sonnox, want to get a Duende), but at the end of the day, it's nothing more than an equation of 1's and 0's - of which most are construed in a way to mimic the repsonse of analog frequencies as they're being manipulated by transistors, tubes, and other nuances exclusive to the realm of analog...
As far as plug-ins go, I believe Universal Audio to be the best at emulating classic hardware... my UAD-1 cards are fully stocked; the Neve 1073 & 1081 are some of the best EQs on the market and the LA2A is one of my go to plugs for compression...
but...
when compared to the mojo of a hardware Neve 1084 going into an LA2A reissue while tracking vocals (which I was fortunate enough to have the pleasure of doing the other night)... I could never see myself spending thousands on a plug!
Maybe the digital emulations will improve in the future to the point of leaving our current plug-ins obselete?
That would be another justification for going with the hardware, if one wants to invest their money in something that will always be relevant...
At times it seems that the greatest attributes of plug-ins are the way they are marketed... how else can one justify the prosumer's buying emulations of Aphex's Aural Exciter when the actual hardware unit is $300 cheaper?
.. just my .02 & looking forward to hearing others' opinions!
..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw8_axQYSZo
Real pro's do TEST software against hardware.
Obviously they can get a closer mix with the software because they are comparing it to hardware in real time with proper settings, if you don't have the actual hardware, or know what it should sound like, you can't replicate it, but, the replication of many hardware effects/processors is possible with software.
Waves makes the grade.
Real pro's do TEST software against hardware.
Obviously they can get a closer mix with the software because they are comparing it to hardware in real time with proper settings, if you don't have the actual hardware, or know what it should sound like, you can't replicate it, but, the replication of many hardware effects/processors is possible with software.
Waves makes the grade.
^^^ nice test ,but there is not alot of information on the test..such as how they recorded the sounds into the computer in the first place....did they record through a pro tools hd...lavry convertors....or an MBOX? or did it get ran through an analog board .or pre amp prior to recording into computer, or maybe this test was done with sounds already in a computer and they ran the sound out to a hardware EQ and back in to monitor results, as well as keeping the audio in computer and using the plug in...So my question would be if they did it this way what kind of D/A and A/D convertors did they use as I thought would be important as too not degrade the sound.
I do know that they make plug ins that is top notch...no question, however Im not sold on anything less then having a decent front end before it gets in the computer. I also have witnessed a big benefit from mixing out the box..I have a friend who had HD system and he would run sixteen outs into a NEVE summing Bus and it made a difference that is amazing..BoB Katz says this isnt really necessary as far as summing busses, his thought is you can just run your stereo mix out of the computer into a nice hardware Mic pre or Eq which ever you like and the good distortion harware gives will give you a wider stereo image which makes things bigger and supossedly better sounding....then again there are those who do it all in the box.
I do notice when reading magazines like Future Music and Sound on Sound when they have the articles with engineers who mix down and record big artists albums..like Wyclef beatles whatever Alicia keys..they use both hardware and software, and I notice similar comments on certain hardware pieces they use just aint good enough in the software dept....in closing there is not 1 person on this sight who couldnt do what they do just on a computer as it is definitly good enough for what they are doing, and no one is winning grammys and shit..and In rap music that type of critical sound hasnt always been a winning formula...look at spice 1 welcome to the ghetto he recorded that on a tascam tape i know that model sells for under $200 on Ebay has only I believe 4 tracks and the cassette tape.
I do know that they make plug ins that is top notch...no question, however Im not sold on anything less then having a decent front end before it gets in the computer. I also have witnessed a big benefit from mixing out the box..I have a friend who had HD system and he would run sixteen outs into a NEVE summing Bus and it made a difference that is amazing..BoB Katz says this isnt really necessary as far as summing busses, his thought is you can just run your stereo mix out of the computer into a nice hardware Mic pre or Eq which ever you like and the good distortion harware gives will give you a wider stereo image which makes things bigger and supossedly better sounding....then again there are those who do it all in the box.
I do notice when reading magazines like Future Music and Sound on Sound when they have the articles with engineers who mix down and record big artists albums..like Wyclef beatles whatever Alicia keys..they use both hardware and software, and I notice similar comments on certain hardware pieces they use just aint good enough in the software dept....in closing there is not 1 person on this sight who couldnt do what they do just on a computer as it is definitly good enough for what they are doing, and no one is winning grammys and shit..and In rap music that type of critical sound hasnt always been a winning formula...look at spice 1 welcome to the ghetto he recorded that on a tascam tape i know that model sells for under $200 on Ebay has only I believe 4 tracks and the cassette tape.
Yea I stick with Waves in my Pro Tools rig, It's just knowing what EQ to use on what sound source. Over the years your going to develop a ear for EQ's if you use them everyday. I personally like the Waves API, V-Series, SSL EQ & Renaissance EQ for most of my everyday productions. "THERE PRICEY LIL BITCHES" but for me there worth every penny I spent.
