16-bit or 24-bit ????
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i dont know of any digital multitracks with 16 bit recording. most are 18-20-22-24 bit machines.
as far as 16 bit or 24 bit well....thats really up for debate. here are a couple of questions you have to ask yourself.
1.can my ears hear the difference between the two? chances are NO.
2.can the average joe tell the difference? no. the average joe cant even tell if he's listening in stereo or mono. are they telling you they want 16 or 24 bit?
3.can ANYONE tell the difference??? thats up for debate. im going on record to say that i DOUBT that 90% of the people who say they hear a difference do. figment of a vivid and colorful
imagination. especially if your listening in a room that is NOT treated. not to mention the device you are playing it out of.
4.what is your SOURCE MATERIAL? if its sound modules,keyboards,drum machines yada yada yada...well.....9 out of 10 times its 16 BIT. how will you gain? are you recording LOW LEVEL PASSAGES AND INSTRUMENTS??????
5.recording in 24 bit format wont give you 50% more resolution than 16 bit. guess what? its gonna eat apprx 50% MORE of your hard drive space.......
6.consider *your* recording chain. fine your working in 24 bit.....guess what? you have JANKY gear going through it (im saying if this was the case). not only that but you have CRAP converters or your converters are NOT real 24 bit converters.
now if you compare a 12 bit recording to a 16 bit recording you WILL hear a difference. 24 bit to 16 bit on regular speakers (not tdm monitors) and being played in a treated room.....i doubt it.......
you WILL get an increase in resolution. thats not up for debate. whats up for debate is if you or anyone else will know the difference or if its needed.
whats it good for? its GREAT when you are doing recording on a computer and you have a lot of plug ins running. its great when you are applying a gang of plug ins on one track.
great for edits. great when you are constantly editing the same track or tweeking it over and over and over and over and over and over and over
2 years ago how many people were using ***TRUE*** 24 bit software,sound cards etc etc etc??????
for what your doing you're WASTING.
however you CAN RECORD IN 24 BIT AND DITHER WHEN ITS TIME.
ONCE AGAIN WHAT ARE YOU GAINING? MORE HEAD ROOM? OH WOW! THE ABILITY TO BE MORE LAID BACK AND NOT WATCH THE PEAK METERS? AT WHAT FREQUENCY RANGE WILL THe BENEFiT TAKE PLACE????
its all up to you........
:H:
as far as 16 bit or 24 bit well....thats really up for debate. here are a couple of questions you have to ask yourself.
1.can my ears hear the difference between the two? chances are NO.
2.can the average joe tell the difference? no. the average joe cant even tell if he's listening in stereo or mono. are they telling you they want 16 or 24 bit?
3.can ANYONE tell the difference??? thats up for debate. im going on record to say that i DOUBT that 90% of the people who say they hear a difference do. figment of a vivid and colorful
imagination. especially if your listening in a room that is NOT treated. not to mention the device you are playing it out of.
4.what is your SOURCE MATERIAL? if its sound modules,keyboards,drum machines yada yada yada...well.....9 out of 10 times its 16 BIT. how will you gain? are you recording LOW LEVEL PASSAGES AND INSTRUMENTS??????
5.recording in 24 bit format wont give you 50% more resolution than 16 bit. guess what? its gonna eat apprx 50% MORE of your hard drive space.......
6.consider *your* recording chain. fine your working in 24 bit.....guess what? you have JANKY gear going through it (im saying if this was the case). not only that but you have CRAP converters or your converters are NOT real 24 bit converters.
now if you compare a 12 bit recording to a 16 bit recording you WILL hear a difference. 24 bit to 16 bit on regular speakers (not tdm monitors) and being played in a treated room.....i doubt it.......
you WILL get an increase in resolution. thats not up for debate. whats up for debate is if you or anyone else will know the difference or if its needed.
whats it good for? its GREAT when you are doing recording on a computer and you have a lot of plug ins running. its great when you are applying a gang of plug ins on one track.
great for edits. great when you are constantly editing the same track or tweeking it over and over and over and over and over and over and over
2 years ago how many people were using ***TRUE*** 24 bit software,sound cards etc etc etc??????
for what your doing you're WASTING.
however you CAN RECORD IN 24 BIT AND DITHER WHEN ITS TIME.
ONCE AGAIN WHAT ARE YOU GAINING? MORE HEAD ROOM? OH WOW! THE ABILITY TO BE MORE LAID BACK AND NOT WATCH THE PEAK METERS? AT WHAT FREQUENCY RANGE WILL THe BENEFiT TAKE PLACE????
its all up to you........
:H:
^^^^ are you paying attention to the questions and things being posted????? no its ovious you are not. im not talking about ****MY**** EARS. IM TALKING ABOUT ***HIS*** EARS.
HERES A LEARNING LESSON IN READING 101. HERE IS WHAT I SAID:
DID YOU SEE THAT? HERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS *YOU* HAVE TO ASK *YOURSELF*. ITS OBVIOUS THAT IF THE GUY IS ASKING THE QUESTION HE *DOESNT* KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
2.I ALSO SAID IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ARE PLAYING IT OUT OF DO YOU SEE THAT? THE DEVICE YOU ARE PLAYING IT OUT OF.
YOU SAY YOU CAN TELL A DIFFERENCE. IN WHAT FREQUENCY RANGE ARE YOU PICKING THIS UP AT????
:h:
HERES A LEARNING LESSON IN READING 101. HERE IS WHAT I SAID:
DID YOU SEE THAT? HERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS *YOU* HAVE TO ASK *YOURSELF*. ITS OBVIOUS THAT IF THE GUY IS ASKING THE QUESTION HE *DOESNT* KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
2.I ALSO SAID IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ARE PLAYING IT OUT OF DO YOU SEE THAT? THE DEVICE YOU ARE PLAYING IT OUT OF.
YOU SAY YOU CAN TELL A DIFFERENCE. IN WHAT FREQUENCY RANGE ARE YOU PICKING THIS UP AT????
:h:
^you're probably gonna argue with me on this Heresy, But, I notice a difference(not huge, but a little). When I compare Tracks done in 16-bit resolution to ones done in 24-bit. The sound is much bigger. My tracks come out much louder. Like before when i was trackin' shit out, my master fader came out really low, it never peaked. Now That I'm doin 24 bit it reaches up to point where it's peakin' or very cloes to it. That's just what I've experienced first hand
if you're just passing out cd's record in 16 bit. if you want to sound super clean etc etc etc record in 24 bit mode. keep the files in 24 bit mode till its mastering time. when its being mastered use dithering.
you wanna listen to 16 bit? pop in a cd from 1999 on DOWN.
every cd is 16 bit. the thing to question is was it 24 bit that was dithered to 16? was it 16 that came from analog tape? etc etc etc?????
for what your doing i would say to bypass 24 bit and go 16 bit. less space,less processor power,more track count.
is 91 octane better than 89? is chevrons supreme better than shells? if your sending crap signals in expect crap to come out. doesnt matter if you have 72,649,769 bit and a 4,898 sample rate.
:H:
ps If you have the option to record in 16 bit uncompressed(im not talking about dynamic compression) format do it. if you have the option to record 24 bit do it (if it suits your needs)
you wanna listen to 16 bit? pop in a cd from 1999 on DOWN.
every cd is 16 bit. the thing to question is was it 24 bit that was dithered to 16? was it 16 that came from analog tape? etc etc etc?????
for what your doing i would say to bypass 24 bit and go 16 bit. less space,less processor power,more track count.
is 91 octane better than 89? is chevrons supreme better than shells? if your sending crap signals in expect crap to come out. doesnt matter if you have 72,649,769 bit and a 4,898 sample rate.
:H:
ps If you have the option to record in 16 bit uncompressed(im not talking about dynamic compression) format do it. if you have the option to record 24 bit do it (if it suits your needs)