OFFICIAL FLAT FUCKING EARTH THREAD
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You have a problem with the number 6? Ya math is explained through numbers kind of weird like that...... 2/3 of anything equals 66.6 percent, an isosceles triangle has 3 60 degree angles.... I mean there are many representations in math where 6s play a part in the calculations. Kind of silly to be spooked by numbers don't you think, especially existing in a world full of mathematical measurements and calculations.....
I think this further explains why you can't comprehend science based thought and events.
I think this further explains why you can't comprehend science based thought and events.
Nope, never have. Why would I care if someone held a sign that said Jesus loves you? We just laugh at those kind of people. They are likely to be the angry ones who want to damn everyone who doesn't believe like them. I in no way think you are damned, I just think your concept of reality is distorted (which can be a toxic way to live), and that is just my opinion.
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Fsho I dig that response.
So what happened. You claim both of your grandparents were Freemasons; and in order to be a Freemason you HAVE to believe in a higher being. Which your grandparents did, because they're Freemasons. How do you take in all of their wisdom except that.
Yea religion can be a toxic thing ifYou go into it as a fanatic instead of listening to what its trying to teach you.
I know people involved in church who are worse than people who have never stepped in a church. Ive said it before, i don't need a church to know i have a connection with God. I don't need to talk to a pastor or even read the bible to have a connection. Will it help, sure, if you go about it the right way and take it with a grain of salt and better you're life in a positive way. You are what you get.
So what happened. You claim both of your grandparents were Freemasons; and in order to be a Freemason you HAVE to believe in a higher being. Which your grandparents did, because they're Freemasons. How do you take in all of their wisdom except that.
Yea religion can be a toxic thing ifYou go into it as a fanatic instead of listening to what its trying to teach you.
I know people involved in church who are worse than people who have never stepped in a church. Ive said it before, i don't need a church to know i have a connection with God. I don't need to talk to a pastor or even read the bible to have a connection. Will it help, sure, if you go about it the right way and take it with a grain of salt and better you're life in a positive way. You are what you get.
Are you so self aware that you constantly type "lmao" after each comment of yours because you know people will be laughing at how unbelievably stupid you sound? I'm sure I'm giving you too much credit.
Going to space costs a lot of money. Going to the moon cost even more. It's also incredibly dangerous and the risks far outweigh the rewards. Even at the time, Nixon actually had a eulogy prepared for Apollo 11.
We went to the moon the first time because of the Cold War and the "race to the moon" (space technology in general; there was a real belief that the Soviets would weaponize space if we didn't first) and we're fortunate enough to have had president adminstrations who wanted us to land on the moon (before anyone else (the Russians)), mainly in John F. Kennedy. What is difficult however is each Adminstration has their own goals for NASA so its in a constant state of change, which is terrible since these missions can often take longer than two presidential terms to put into fruition, not to mention funding plummeted since Kennedy:
Also just to be clear, Apollo 11 was the first manned mission to land on the Moon (1969) and there were six manned U.S. landings between 1969 and 1972. And numerous unmanned landings. Again, see the budget above as well on how this was possible.
We don't need to send man to the moon or planets when we can have robots do a better job (the Mars rovers for example have been on Mars far longer than man could and are more valuable, for example). Also we don't have to go to the moon in order to "know how to live in space," we accomplish that with the international space station. A few reasons why the ISS is better than the Moon for missions:
-Radiation. The Moon isn't protected by Earth's magnetic field so radiation exposure is a big risk. Radiation shielding is heavy. The ISS gets protection from the magnetosphere but not from the atmosphere, so the "astronauts still get 1 millisievert per day - 5x as much radiation as on jet aircraft and 365x as much as on the ground."
-Distance. If something goes wrong, earth is quite a long way away in that the Apollo missions took a few days to reach the moon and a few days to come back. If something goes wrong on the ISS, the astronauts can get into a Soyuz capsule and be on the ground in a few hours (it's only ~300km away from Earth). The distance for Mars is far greater (and they can only reduce this by launching when Mars' orbit is at it's closest to Earth, meaning there is only a small window of opportunity otherwise the distance is ridiculously far (The average distance between the two planets is 140 million miles)).
-Difficulty of landing on the Moon. A few probes have crashed attempting to do so (Luna 15 for example). It's not a very good track record when you consider humans would be involved. This will and likely is to get much better now that SpaceX, Armadillo, Blue Origin, et al are increasingly getting gud.
-Toxic moon dust. Although there are precautions, it was found in the lungs of Apollo astronauts. Likely could be avoidable in the future but it's just another danger and risk.
At the end of the day, there really isn't much of a purpose to send men to Mars. Not for NASA anyways (far better and more important things to spend the money on). I think Japan is planning on it within the next ten years or so however.
Private companies? Sure, I can see that happening not long from now. I'm sure they'll make it into a tourist location ( take a trip to the Moon and spend a few days in a luxury lunar-hotel, complete with amazing skyviews of earth in each private room.
It's too bad though that you don't believe/understand science; Japan had thousands of hours of HD video from the moon:
Earthrise (like a sunrise):
Here's over a hundred more:
HDTV of the lunar explorer "KAGUYA": [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy2L9Jti9Z4&list=PLCQJJ3lTBuyCdlbfBzNn8vbC1BL2uZXp0[/ame]
But I'm sure the Japanese are "in on it" too
Going to space costs a lot of money. Going to the moon cost even more. It's also incredibly dangerous and the risks far outweigh the rewards. Even at the time, Nixon actually had a eulogy prepared for Apollo 11.
We went to the moon the first time because of the Cold War and the "race to the moon" (space technology in general; there was a real belief that the Soviets would weaponize space if we didn't first) and we're fortunate enough to have had president adminstrations who wanted us to land on the moon (before anyone else (the Russians)), mainly in John F. Kennedy. What is difficult however is each Adminstration has their own goals for NASA so its in a constant state of change, which is terrible since these missions can often take longer than two presidential terms to put into fruition, not to mention funding plummeted since Kennedy:
Also just to be clear, Apollo 11 was the first manned mission to land on the Moon (1969) and there were six manned U.S. landings between 1969 and 1972. And numerous unmanned landings. Again, see the budget above as well on how this was possible.
We don't need to send man to the moon or planets when we can have robots do a better job (the Mars rovers for example have been on Mars far longer than man could and are more valuable, for example). Also we don't have to go to the moon in order to "know how to live in space," we accomplish that with the international space station. A few reasons why the ISS is better than the Moon for missions:
-Radiation. The Moon isn't protected by Earth's magnetic field so radiation exposure is a big risk. Radiation shielding is heavy. The ISS gets protection from the magnetosphere but not from the atmosphere, so the "astronauts still get 1 millisievert per day - 5x as much radiation as on jet aircraft and 365x as much as on the ground."
-Distance. If something goes wrong, earth is quite a long way away in that the Apollo missions took a few days to reach the moon and a few days to come back. If something goes wrong on the ISS, the astronauts can get into a Soyuz capsule and be on the ground in a few hours (it's only ~300km away from Earth). The distance for Mars is far greater (and they can only reduce this by launching when Mars' orbit is at it's closest to Earth, meaning there is only a small window of opportunity otherwise the distance is ridiculously far (The average distance between the two planets is 140 million miles)).
-Difficulty of landing on the Moon. A few probes have crashed attempting to do so (Luna 15 for example). It's not a very good track record when you consider humans would be involved. This will and likely is to get much better now that SpaceX, Armadillo, Blue Origin, et al are increasingly getting gud.
-Toxic moon dust. Although there are precautions, it was found in the lungs of Apollo astronauts. Likely could be avoidable in the future but it's just another danger and risk.
At the end of the day, there really isn't much of a purpose to send men to Mars. Not for NASA anyways (far better and more important things to spend the money on). I think Japan is planning on it within the next ten years or so however.
Private companies? Sure, I can see that happening not long from now. I'm sure they'll make it into a tourist location ( take a trip to the Moon and spend a few days in a luxury lunar-hotel, complete with amazing skyviews of earth in each private room.
It's too bad though that you don't believe/understand science; Japan had thousands of hours of HD video from the moon:
Earthrise (like a sunrise):
Here's over a hundred more:
HDTV of the lunar explorer "KAGUYA": [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy2L9Jti9Z4&list=PLCQJJ3lTBuyCdlbfBzNn8vbC1BL2uZXp0[/ame]
But I'm sure the Japanese are "in on it" too
"The Moon isn't protected by Earth's magnetic field so radiation exposure is a big risk. Radiation shielding is heavy. The ISS gets protection from the magnetosphere but not from the atmosphere, so the "astronauts still get 1 millisievert per day - 5x as much radiation as on jet aircraft and 365x as much as on the ground."
We did it with suits that weren't even radiation proof in 1969, we didn't know there was radiation "when we went" they asked them how did they cross the radiation belts they said they crossed it because they didn't know it existed lmao
now imagine if they did it with suits that were radiation proof, it would be EASIER and SAFER or does that sound crazy too.
no dude he is really this stupid. Don't forget that his bottom line, as I had proven in the first couple of pages, is to confirm the validity of the bible.
He admitted that if the earth is indeed flat, this would mean that we ARE the center of the universe just as the bible states.
I said ok so then if in due time we discover that the earth is in deed round, following his logic should lead him to admit that we are then not the center of the universe. Nope.
To him only what empowers his weak faith is all that he wants to see. There is 0 attempt at being objective or figuring anything out really.
He admitted that if the earth is indeed flat, this would mean that we ARE the center of the universe just as the bible states.
I said ok so then if in due time we discover that the earth is in deed round, following his logic should lead him to admit that we are then not the center of the universe. Nope.
To him only what empowers his weak faith is all that he wants to see. There is 0 attempt at being objective or figuring anything out really.
^In an attempt to find the answer to this on google, I ended up taking smiley's advice and doing some research. It turns out that the earth is not flat, still....
But I did learn about the Gish Gallop rhetorical tactic.
also
Flat Earth - RationalWiki
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thank you for your time smiley. You have enabled us all to strengthen our resolve that you are an absolute moron -- now make me a sandwich.
But I did learn about the Gish Gallop rhetorical tactic.
also
Flat Earth - RationalWiki
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thank you for your time smiley. You have enabled us all to strengthen our resolve that you are an absolute moron -- now make me a sandwich.
Firmament in bible
In Genesis it says the firmament is over us on the 7th sentence.
"7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so."
One of the main people who helped create NASA has this on his tombstone but thats just a coincidence...
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. - Psalms 19:1"
"Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass? - Job 37:18"
Shape of earth
Isaiah 40:22 reads, “It is he who sits above the circle of the earth.”
job 38:14 "It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment."
Goes with what Auguste Piccard says he saw when he "broke" the stratosphere, he said it was a "flat disk with an upright edge" just like a seal.
Earth doesn't move
Chronicles 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. -
Matthew 5:8 "Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. (you cant see all the kingdoms on top of a ball, but you can see all the kingdoms on a flat earth.
Daniel 4:11
The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth.
In Genesis it says the firmament is over us on the 7th sentence.
"7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so."
One of the main people who helped create NASA has this on his tombstone but thats just a coincidence...
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. - Psalms 19:1"
"Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass? - Job 37:18"
Shape of earth
Isaiah 40:22 reads, “It is he who sits above the circle of the earth.”
job 38:14 "It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment."
Goes with what Auguste Piccard says he saw when he "broke" the stratosphere, he said it was a "flat disk with an upright edge" just like a seal.
Earth doesn't move
Chronicles 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. -
Matthew 5:8 "Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. (you cant see all the kingdoms on top of a ball, but you can see all the kingdoms on a flat earth.
Daniel 4:11
The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth.
I found one that says the exact opposite.
Philip Stallings: The Biblical Flat Earth: The Teaching From Scripture
Besides, the bible says in GENESIS, the FIRST CHAPTER. Where it explains how the universe was made. That a firmament is over us in the 7th sentence.
In Psalm 19:1 King James Version
"19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork."
One of the creators of Nasa has this on his tombstone. Remember he was part of NASA.... until that nigga died
Why would he put anything about a firmament on his tombstone.
Philip Stallings: The Biblical Flat Earth: The Teaching From Scripture
Besides, the bible says in GENESIS, the FIRST CHAPTER. Where it explains how the universe was made. That a firmament is over us in the 7th sentence.
In Psalm 19:1 King James Version
"19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork."
One of the creators of Nasa has this on his tombstone. Remember he was part of NASA.... until that nigga died
Why would he put anything about a firmament on his tombstone.
LMAO y'all are fucking lost I swear, You just cant accept the fact you don't have no proof and still want me to say you're right?
Look at the Michelson Morley experiment and doppler effect, they were experiments prove the earth is spinning or even MOVING.
They FAILED. They proved the earth wasn't even moving using light waves.