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But he is also getting a huge backlash for doing what he's doing. So is it okay, as fans and media reporters, to ask one fighter to challenge himself and not the other? Canelo never said he would go to 160 but Cotto took it to that level. GGG said what Canelo did vs Khan is disrespectful to boxing. And I agree. So why would someone like you not be so harsh on GGG. I was on Canelo?
I said GGG vs Brook was a shit fight and it is. What you don't understand is the difference between a guy that can choose his opponent and a guy that can't. GGG doesn't have the same options open to him that Canelo does. GGG can't say "I'm fighting Daniel Jacobs next" and have Jacobs jump at the chance to fight him or it be an easy negotiation like Canelo can.
The reason Canelo gets more shit for his opponent selection than nearly anyone else in the sport is because he has the ability to literally pick his opponents and he's picking a guys like Amir Khan & Liam Smith.
I've said it before, but it's the reason DLH was so great whether you like him or not. DLH was in the same position where he could pick his fights and he straight up fought everyone.
The reason Canelo gets more shit for his opponent selection than nearly anyone else in the sport is because he has the ability to literally pick his opponents and he's picking a guys like Amir Khan & Liam Smith.
I've said it before, but it's the reason DLH was so great whether you like him or not. DLH was in the same position where he could pick his fights and he straight up fought everyone.
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So, disregard the fact that Canelo already fought Lara, destroyed Kirkland, and defeated Cotto. Those are very tough fights. He already beat the best at 154. Sorry for that. And I'm also sorry that Smith is a champ at 154. Now, you did say GGG vs Brook is a shit fight. But I'm asking why did certain fans and media ask Canelo to fight GGG after he fought Kirkland, yet aren't asking GGG that same question? GGG does have options, I hope you know.
Haha straight up lying. Canelo actually tried to fight Cotto at a catch-weight of 156 pounds, that was the weight Canelo requested, Cotto wanted 155 and that's what they eventually agreed upon.
Khan asked Canelo to fight at 154, Canelo denied it and said 155 for my middleweight title.
Obviously the difference between Canelo vs Khan and Golovkin versus Brook is that Canelo chose fight Khan, that was his choice. Golovkin first got turns down by Canelo, after Canelo agreed to fight him at 160 and requested his extension so he could fight Khan in a middleweight title defense, then Saunders turned him down, Danny Jacobs and finally Eubank. After all that bullshit, he settled for Brook since the offer was on the table. Doesn't mean Golovkin vs Brook isnt a bad fight, it is, but there is a massive difference in how each fight materialized. If just one of those guys stepped up to the plate (Canelo, Said, Jacobs or Eubank), this fight wouldn't be happening.
Khan asked Canelo to fight at 154, Canelo denied it and said 155 for my middleweight title.
Obviously the difference between Canelo vs Khan and Golovkin versus Brook is that Canelo chose fight Khan, that was his choice. Golovkin first got turns down by Canelo, after Canelo agreed to fight him at 160 and requested his extension so he could fight Khan in a middleweight title defense, then Saunders turned him down, Danny Jacobs and finally Eubank. After all that bullshit, he settled for Brook since the offer was on the table. Doesn't mean Golovkin vs Brook isnt a bad fight, it is, but there is a massive difference in how each fight materialized. If just one of those guys stepped up to the plate (Canelo, Said, Jacobs or Eubank), this fight wouldn't be happening.
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To imply Golovkin has the same options and luxury that Canelo has is a joke. Canelo never has had to get rejected by a gauntlet of fighters and settle for an opponent he doesn't want. Golovkin has, constantly. Canelo literally chooses anyone he wants because he's a popular red haired Mexican, Golovkin doesn't have that luxury. Not only can Canelo fight who he wants, he can fight them at a made up division that he invented.
It's funny, Golovkin is the man with all the titles at middleweight and yet he's the one chasing all the challengers instead of the other way around. That tells you what other fighters think of him, otherwise they'd be running towards him like they run towards Canelo.
It's funny, Golovkin is the man with all the titles at middleweight and yet he's the one chasing all the challengers instead of the other way around. That tells you what other fighters think of him, otherwise they'd be running towards him like they run towards Canelo.
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That doesn't answer my question, but okay. Whatever. Now, GGG does have the luxury but what would his promoter prefer? Paying an opponent $100k to fight him or $1 mill to fight GGG? Canelo's free fight on HBO vs Kirkland landed Kirkland over $1 mill! Canelo could have fought ANYONE, and paid them way less, and still make the same amount of money with extremely high ratings. But he still fought Kirkland and still paid him so much. GGG sells out venues. GGG gets the highest ratings in boxing. The hype has been there for GGG. They can start looking and pay for legit competition for GGG, but they won't. GGG was, and still is staying @160 not to unify belts, but to chase a fight with Canelo. Canelo ducked, so why wait? GGG and K2 do have options, they just want the easy money
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. Don't answer the question. Mr. Loeffler himself was asked all these questions about options, unifying, how it was the WBC who asked to allow Cotto and Canelo to get passes and it wasn't out of good faith from K2's behalf. And then was asked about Lara at the 21:45 mark:
It's all about business at the end of it all. And Kell Brooks name didn't pop out of nowhere after the Eubanks declined the fight. His name was already discussed months prior. He should have declined that name then. Options, options, options.
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. Don't answer the question. Mr. Loeffler himself was asked all these questions about options, unifying, how it was the WBC who asked to allow Cotto and Canelo to get passes and it wasn't out of good faith from K2's behalf. And then was asked about Lara at the 21:45 mark:It's all about business at the end of it all. And Kell Brooks name didn't pop out of nowhere after the Eubanks declined the fight. His name was already discussed months prior. He should have declined that name then. Options, options, options.
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Did you hear the same thing I heard? He clearly says (may not be a 100% exact quote) "Lara is very active on twitter, I know his manager, we haven't received a contract from them". The fact that he says he's not marketable is true, unless I misheard he never says they wouldn't fight Lara because of it. He also says a fight with Saunders (unification) is the route they want to take which they've made that clear from the beginning.
Honest question, you think Canelo and GGG have the same options to get the same fights? Yes or no.
Honest question, you think Canelo and GGG have the same options to get the same fights? Yes or no.
When it comes down to Lara, I already posted up a video of why his manager cannot propose a contract to GGG. It makes perfect sense. Now, the other guy asked Tom about Saunders will never fight GGG and that's no secret. So why bring up Saunders' name? Now, Kell Brooks name was brought up in this interview. If Tom and GGG were that serious about unifying @160, they should have declined Brooks' name then. Shit, Eubank Jr. wasn't even brought up in this interview. In this interview, as much as Tom was defending GGG's stand on unifying the 160 division and not moving up or down in weight class, he says that at the end of it all it's all about money and big fights.
Unlike you, I will answer your question. Do they have the same options? Yes. GGG will now face a welterweight champ in the UK, which means he has all the options in the world. Unifying 160 is out of the argument now.
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Do you think that GGG still has a legit argument about staying at 160 to unify the belts? His cash cow ducked and left the division. Now he's the cash cow at 160. What was interesting about this interview is that Tom mentioned how GGG was willing to go down to 158 to make the Rosado fight possible. Why wasn't a catchweight negotiable vs Canelo?
Unlike you, I will answer your question. Do they have the same options? Yes. GGG will now face a welterweight champ in the UK, which means he has all the options in the world. Unifying 160 is out of the argument now.
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Do you think that GGG still has a legit argument about staying at 160 to unify the belts? His cash cow ducked and left the division. Now he's the cash cow at 160. What was interesting about this interview is that Tom mentioned how GGG was willing to go down to 158 to make the Rosado fight possible. Why wasn't a catchweight negotiable vs Canelo?
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Haha gotta love these same old tactics by battle. Thy never turned down a catch-weight offer from Canelo since he literally dropped the belt before negotiating a single thing with Golovkin. If you think Golovkin wouldn't have accepted 158 for Canelo in a huge super fight than you're either an idiot or flat out lying. Of course they would have you dolt. The problem is Canelo wouldn't even negotiate, he handed over his belt.
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It's amusing watching someone try to use rational explanations while lying. Everyone who reads that knows 100℅ you're lying your ass off by saying Golovkin has the same options as Canelo, and yet here you are saying the lie. Do you realize this when typing it out or do you not even think about it? Honest question.
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What the hell you on about? Golovkin doesn't pay his opponents anything, the networks buy the fights for what they are willing to pay. Obviously Canelo fights get more money since Canelo is a bigger star. Canelo didn't pay James Kirkland $1.3m, HBO did. Canelo got $3.5m for that fight. That's what HBO was willing to pay. Golovkins biggest purse to date is $2m. But keep telling people Golovkin has the same options as the Mexican ginger.
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This back and forth is useless if you honestly believe the same fights that are available to Canelo (which is nearly anyone who he decides he wants to fight) are available to GGG. For the record, Lemieux received $1.5M to fight GGG (as opposed to the garbage money he received for winning the belt against N'Dam). Dominic Wade a relative nobody mandatory was paid $500,000 fight GGG. Curtis Stevens was paid $290,000 while GGG only made $400,000 for that fight. Eubank Jr was offered 3.3M to fight GGG AT HOME and passed.
On a different note, a few good fights have already happened this month..
Naoya Inoue Vs. Petchbarngborn Kokietgym for Inoue's WBO super flyweight title
Takuma Inoue (Naoya's cousin) Vs. Froilan Saludar
McJoe Arroyo Vs. Jerwin Ancajas for Arroyo's IBF super flyweight title
All fights were pretty good and definitely worth watching.
Naoya Inoue Vs. Petchbarngborn Kokietgym for Inoue's WBO super flyweight title
Takuma Inoue (Naoya's cousin) Vs. Froilan Saludar
McJoe Arroyo Vs. Jerwin Ancajas for Arroyo's IBF super flyweight title
All fights were pretty good and definitely worth watching.
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I wonder if Inoue vs Gonzalez will happen by the end of the year or early next:
Naoya Inoue Aims To Target Roman Gonzalez Unification Next - Boxing News
Naoya Inoue Aims To Target Roman Gonzalez Unification Next - Boxing News
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