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troythemac

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Refer to my posts to Mr G
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate.

Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
-mlk jr
 

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"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate.

Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
-mlk jr
I'm not too sure on how that relates to other police being indirectly responsible due to their cult of Blue Wall/Blue Shield, but ok.

"I don't mean go out and get violent; but at the same time you should never be nonviolent unless you run into some nonviolence. I'm nonviolent with those who are nonviolent with me. But when you drop that violence on me, then you've made me go insane, and I'm not responsible for what I do." - Malcolm X

"I don't favor violence. If we could bring about recognition and respect of our people by peaceful means, well and good. Everybody would like to reach his objectives peacefully. But I'm also a realist. The only people in this country who are asked to be nonviolent are black people." - Malcolm X
 
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BUTCHER 206

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So ppl sayin don't get violent also don't have a solution to the problem, right? So we're supposed to sit around like we've been doin for YEARS and put up with this shit while ppl are tryna find peaceful solutions? I don't condone violence, but I DEFINITELY understand where they're comin from.
Start by admitting there is an obsession with crime and violence and it is glorified within the black communities. Admit there has been and always has been a hatred and defiance of cops which is now generational and worse than ever before. Admit most of these incidents weren't fault free, that the black community has a violent criminal element that is 7-10x higher than any race in America and that needs to be addressed and not ignored, lest maybe you or yours gets pulled over for looking like a violent armed robbery suspect, and your defiance and sudden movements leads to a death just like Philando Castile.
 
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Start by admitting there is an obsession with crime and violence and it is glorified within the black communities. Admit there has been and always has been a hatred and defiance of cops which is now generational and worse than ever before. Admit most of these incidents weren't fault free, that the black community has a violent criminal element that is 7-10x higher than any race in America and that needs to be addressed and not ignored, lest maybe you or yours gets pulled over for looking like a violent armed robbery suspect, and your defiance and sudden movements leads to a death just like Philando Castile.
I actually agree with you for the most part. I'm one of the few who believe rap music has a HEAVY influence on the youth. On the other hand though, what does crime and violent obsessions have to do with justifying the KILLING of innocent ppl........ That happen to "LOOK" like violent armed robbery suspects. So which is it? Violence should not be met with violence, or it should? Blaccs obsessions with violence, should or should NOT be met violence? It's ok for corrupt cops to kill innocent blaccs because they're violent, but not ok for blaccs to kill innocent cops? I know it's wrong, but as I said earlier...... I understand. Your logic is violence should not meet violence? Or it should?
 

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There wouldn't be violence and bias from the cops if it wasn't coming from the other end. Cops aren't violent or biased against whites, east indians, asians, Hispanics generally, basically everyone else, because it's not part of these cultures to defy, insult, and even murder the police. It's funny people saying "nows the time we do something" when there were already 258 violent attacks against the police by blacks just this year so far. No other race is doing that. Just maybe that's why blacks are getting shot. I have no problem with black people but this cancerous part of the culture needs to be cut out. Stop looking at cops like a gang and start looking at them for what they are; an extension and representative of the state you're in and this country. If you hate cops and want to kill cops, you hate this country and want to destroy this country and i hate you
 

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There wouldn't be violence and bias from the cops if it wasn't coming from the other end. Cops aren't violent or biased against whites, east indians, asians, Hispanics generally, basically everyone else, because it's not part of these cultures to defy, insult, and even murder the police. It's funny people saying "nows the time we do something" when there were already 258 violent attacks against the police by blacks just this year so far. No other race is doing that. Just maybe that's why blacks are getting shot. I have no problem with black people but this cancerous part of the culture needs to be cut out. Stop looking at cops like a gang and start looking at them for what they are; an extension and representative of the state you're in and this country. If you hate cops and want to kill cops, you hate this country and want to destroy this country and i hate you
You could be right if you would ignore the 400 year history of slavery and racism.
 

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The Origins of the African Slave Trade

Muslim Arabs hunted, enslaved, tortured and killed ethnic Africans for a millennium. Middle Eastern Muslim Arabs have a history of over 1400 years of human slavery, which even continues today in the Middle East. Arab Muslims controlled, maintained, initiated slavery of ethnic Africans. Islams Arab prophet Muhammad himself brought, kept and sold African slaves.

Today it is politically correct to blame some European empires and the USA for slavery (forgetting that it was practiced by everybody since prehistoric times). But I rarely read the other side of the story: that these first abolish slavery were precisely those countries (especially Britain and the USA). In 1787 the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade was founded in England: it was the first society anywhere in the world opposed to slavery. In 1792 English prime minister William Pitt called publicly for the end of the slave trade: it was the first time in history (anywhere in the world) that the ruler of a country had called for the abolition of slavery. No African king and emperor had ever done so.

The civil rights movement of the 1960's have left many people with the belief that the slave trade was exclusively a European/USA phenomenon and only evil white people were to blame for it. This is a simplistic scenario that hardly reflects the facts.

In most instances, no violence was necessary to obtain those slaves. Contrary to legends and novels and Hollywood movies, the white traders did not need to savagely kill entire tribes in order to exact their tribute in slaves. The kings would gladly sell their own subjects.

This explains why slavery became "black". In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery (of course, Western powers retained countless "civilized" ways to enslave their citizens, but that's another story), whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling people of their own race. (To be precise, Christians were also selling Muslim slaves captured in war, and Muslims were selling Christian slaves captured in war, but neither the Christians of Europe nor the Muslims of Africa and the Middle East were selling their own people).

Then the Muslim the trade of African slaves declined rapidly when Arab domination was reduced by the emerging European powers. (Note: Arabs continued to capture and sell slaves, but mostly in the Mediterranean. In fact, Robert Davis estimates that 1.25 million European Christians were enslaved by the "barbary states" of northern Africa.The rate of mortality of those Christian slaves in the Islamic world was roughly the same as the mortality rate in the Atlantic slave trade of the same period.)

The slaves were "sold" more or less legally by their (black) owners. The legends of European mercenaries capturing free people in the jungle are mostly just that: legends. A few mercenaries certainly stormed peaceful tribes , but that was not the rule. There was no need to risk their lives, so most of them didn't: they simply purchased people.Sub-Saharan Africans never felt like they were one people, they felt (and still feel) that they belonged to different tribes. The distinctions of tribe were far stronger than the distinctions of race.It is also fair to say that, while everybody tolerated it, very few whites practiced slavery: in 1860 there were 385,000 USA citizens who owned slaves, or about 1.4% of the white population (there were 27 million whites in the USA). That percentage was zero in the states that did not allow slavery.

Incidentally, in 1830 about 25% of the free Negro slave masters in South Carolina owned 10 or more slaves: that is a much higher percentage (ten times more) than the number of white slave owners. Thus slave owners were a tiny minority (1.4%) and it was not only whites: it was just about anybody who could, including blacks themselves.

Slavery would have remained common in most African kingdoms until this day: what crushed slavery in Africa was that all those African kingdoms became colonies of western European countries......
 
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It's simple to solve this - take away guns.

Your cops are paranoid and quick to shoot because everybody is armed, they don't wan to risk it. The rest of the civilized world doesn't have these problems because people aren't walking around strapped. A cop pulls you over in Australia, Europe, New Zealand, Japan etc it is almost a 100% chance you're not armed so they're not going to fear for their life and adopt a shoot first policy.

The US needs to get rid of guns.
 

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The Origins of the African Slave Trade

Muslim Arabs hunted, enslaved, tortured and killed ethnic Africans for a millennium. Middle Eastern Muslim Arabs have a history of over 1400 years of human slavery, which even continues today in the Middle East. Arab Muslims controlled, maintained, initiated slavery of ethnic Africans. Islams Arab prophet Muhammad himself brought, kept and sold African slaves.

Today it is politically correct to blame some European empires and the USA for slavery (forgetting that it was practiced by everybody since prehistoric times). But I rarely read the other side of the story: that these first abolish slavery were precisely those countries (especially Britain and the USA). In 1787 the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade was founded in England: it was the first society anywhere in the world opposed to slavery. In 1792 English prime minister William Pitt called publicly for the end of the slave trade: it was the first time in history (anywhere in the world) that the ruler of a country had called for the abolition of slavery. No African king and emperor had ever done so.

The civil rights movement of the 1960's have left many people with the belief that the slave trade was exclusively a European/USA phenomenon and only evil white people were to blame for it. This is a simplistic scenario that hardly reflects the facts.

In most instances, no violence was necessary to obtain those slaves. Contrary to legends and novels and Hollywood movies, the white traders did not need to savagely kill entire tribes in order to exact their tribute in slaves. The kings would gladly sell their own subjects.

This explains why slavery became "black". In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery (of course, Western powers retained countless "civilized" ways to enslave their citizens, but that's another story), whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling people of their own race. (To be precise, Christians were also selling Muslim slaves captured in war, and Muslims were selling Christian slaves captured in war, but neither the Christians of Europe nor the Muslims of Africa and the Middle East were selling their own people).

Then the Muslim the trade of African slaves declined rapidly when Arab domination was reduced by the emerging European powers. (Note: Arabs continued to capture and sell slaves, but mostly in the Mediterranean. In fact, Robert Davis estimates that 1.25 million European Christians were enslaved by the "barbary states" of northern Africa.The rate of mortality of those Christian slaves in the Islamic world was roughly the same as the mortality rate in the Atlantic slave trade of the same period.)

The slaves were "sold" more or less legally by their (black) owners. The legends of European mercenaries capturing free people in the jungle are mostly just that: legends. A few mercenaries certainly stormed peaceful tribes , but that was not the rule. There was no need to risk their lives, so most of them didn't: they simply purchased people.Sub-Saharan Africans never felt like they were one people, they felt (and still feel) that they belonged to different tribes. The distinctions of tribe were far stronger than the distinctions of race.It is also fair to say that, while everybody tolerated it, very few whites practiced slavery: in 1860 there were 385,000 USA citizens who owned slaves, or about 1.4% of the white population (there were 27 million whites in the USA). That percentage was zero in the states that did not allow slavery.

Incidentally, in 1830 about 25% of the free Negro slave masters in South Carolina owned 10 or more slaves: that is a much higher percentage (ten times more) than the number of white slave owners. Thus slave owners were a tiny minority (1.4%) and it was not only whites: it was just about anybody who could, including blacks themselves.

Slavery would have remained common in most African kingdoms until this day: what crushed slavery in Africa was that all those African kingdoms became colonies of western European countries......
 
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It's simple to solve this - take away guns.

Your cops are paranoid and quick to shoot because everybody is armed, they don't wan to risk it. The rest of the civilized world doesn't have these problems because people aren't walking around strapped. A cop pulls you over in Australia, Europe, New Zealand, Japan etc it is almost a 100% chance you're not armed so they're not going to fear for their life and adopt a shoot first policy.

The US needs to get rid of guns.
No. US is not Australia. You take guns away from law abiing citizens, who is left with guns?

Restriction yes, ban? No.
 

BUTCHER 206

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It's simple to solve this - take away guns.

Your cops are paranoid and quick to shoot because everybody is armed, they don't wan to risk it. The rest of the civilized world doesn't have these problems because people aren't walking around strapped. A cop pulls you over in Australia, Europe, New Zealand, Japan etc it is almost a 100% chance you're not armed so they're not going to fear for their life and adopt a shoot first policy.

The US needs to get rid of guns.
No; you can't take away guns, that's not simple at all and is likely impossible. I do think we need tougher penalties for those with illegal guns and it should be much harder to purchase larger weapons capable of mass casualties though