HBO: Game of Thrones
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Sure but if you take "destiny" out of the equation, surviving a battle like that really is a coin flip. Doesn't matter how great of a warrior you are, if an arrow lands an inch this way, a swords slashes that way, you're dead.
Ramsey out smarted them. Had them surrounded in a human meat grinder. If not for the Vale they were all dead.
Ramsey out smarted them. Had them surrounded in a human meat grinder. If not for the Vale they were all dead.
I think that's one of the good undercurrents of the books. Is there really actual religion at play a lot of the time? Actual destinies? Or is everybody including the main characters just basically in this fucked up world and their lives really could come down to a coin flip half the time? We still don't really know who Azor Ahai is and if he's Jon Snow.
Damn, this is why that director is so good, he just came up with the crunch scene on his own and totally did away with what D&D wanted lol.
The crush scene, that is. Miguel Sapochnik is the director of Hardhome, this episode, and S9E10. 'Game of Thrones': Battle of the Bastards director speaks out | EW.com
The crush scene, that is. Miguel Sapochnik is the director of Hardhome, this episode, and S9E10. 'Game of Thrones': Battle of the Bastards director speaks out | EW.com
One evening I got home and I kind of knew we couldn’t finish in the time we had left so I wrote a long email to David and Dan and the other producers to suggest an alternative that I thought we could achieve in the remaining time, but that would mean going “off book” for three days. That is to say, we’d be shooting without a script. I finished the email and made a cup of tea (no whisky in the house) then waited for the response, which I fully expected to be a public chastisement and general reaming for even suggesting that (Dan and David like their scripts executed the way they wrote them, and with good reason).
It was late already and if were going to do this we needed to employ this idea first thing the next day. But I couldn’t move forward without their consent and they were in L.A. at the time. I hadn’t even worked exactly out how I’d do it, I just knew we need a Plan B.
Anyway, not 15 minutes later, I get a ping on the email and David and Dan have replied. They said it sucked not to be able to finish as scripted but they also understood the crunch we were in and that they trusted me and to have at it.
I think that this section of the fight — in which Jon is almost buried alive by a stampede of panicking wildings — turned out as one of my favorite little moments in the sequence. No VFX, no fighting, just Kit giving a stellar performance and a crazy top shot as he pushes his way back out (we affectionately called it the “rebirthing” shot). The other reason I liked it is because of what it meant to be allowed to follow my gut and go for it. That kind of trust you can’t buy and it felt like a privilege to have been given that kind of support to go into unchartered territory by the producers in such a high stakes game.
It was late already and if were going to do this we needed to employ this idea first thing the next day. But I couldn’t move forward without their consent and they were in L.A. at the time. I hadn’t even worked exactly out how I’d do it, I just knew we need a Plan B.
Anyway, not 15 minutes later, I get a ping on the email and David and Dan have replied. They said it sucked not to be able to finish as scripted but they also understood the crunch we were in and that they trusted me and to have at it.
I think that this section of the fight — in which Jon is almost buried alive by a stampede of panicking wildings — turned out as one of my favorite little moments in the sequence. No VFX, no fighting, just Kit giving a stellar performance and a crazy top shot as he pushes his way back out (we affectionately called it the “rebirthing” shot). The other reason I liked it is because of what it meant to be allowed to follow my gut and go for it. That kind of trust you can’t buy and it felt like a privilege to have been given that kind of support to go into unchartered territory by the producers in such a high stakes game.
Yeah he talks about that in this great interview below, how to feed 600 people a day for 25 days, how eveytime they film charging horses to reset they have to wipe out all the horse prints, make new fake snow, etc. Then the rain and mud, morale going down...seemed like a nightmare filming it all but the end result was obviously a masterpiece.
'Game of Thrones': Battle of the Bastards director speaks out | EW.com
Also cool to hear about all the research he did in historic battles as well as watching tons of battle scenes for inspiration.
'Game of Thrones': Battle of the Bastards director speaks out | EW.com
Also cool to hear about all the research he did in historic battles as well as watching tons of battle scenes for inspiration.
If HBO is smart they'll hang on to this guy. I see he did the first episode of True Detective (season one), some Banshee episodes as well which is on Cinimax owned by HBO.
From what I'm hearing, the reason next season is going to o be shorter is because there is less story to be told and that more of the episodes will be like this. I mean it's coming to a point where it's going to be pure war and not much else. I would just try to get this guy for every episode lol
From what I'm hearing, the reason next season is going to o be shorter is because there is less story to be told and that more of the episodes will be like this. I mean it's coming to a point where it's going to be pure war and not much else. I would just try to get this guy for every episode lol
Yeah the battle scene was spectacular. The nuances of Jon almost drowning in a sea of dead bodies and panicked soldiers was great. Also Jon's luck in the scene you mentioned above where he was a split second from being killed only to be saved by some random guy was pretty cool.
The plot is getting a little too cute and predictable for my taste but the overall the cinematography was amazing and is carrying the show as one of the best shows of all time.
That and that last episode was EXPENSIVE. So their budget dwindles for the future.
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That's one of the reasons why I think this episode was so well done. We all knew going into the episode Jon Snow/Sansa would win. We knew Ramsay would be defeated. And yet, the way it was filmed it created doubt, it created moments of oh fuck where you totally forget about any so called plot armor and for a split moment think to yourself, well shit I guess Jon is going to die or I think Ramsay is going to annihilate them. We all knew the Vale would show up especially after the Reddit CSI posters zoomed in on Sansa's letter and highlighted all the letters revealing it was to Littlefinger and yet the scene was so intense you get lost in the moment and forget about all that. This director really gets it and understands how to tell an intense, emotional story regardless if the outcomes were predictable or not.
Yeah I joked last week or so that this episode will probably be like 35% of their budget and it's probably not far from the truth. That was some top notch Hollywood blockbuster type stuff right there. I think that's why next season will be shorter too, less episodes with the same budget ($60 million or whatever crazy number) so they'll be able to put all that money into fewer episodes and have more war driven episodes.
Remember early on in the show, how many battles were skipped over. They never really showed Robb and how badass of a commander he was. Other than the Wall/Hardhome stuff, the only real battle they showed was Blackwater, which was awesome, but this was something else entirely. Next season is going to be almost all war I'm guessing.
Remember early on in the show, how many battles were skipped over. They never really showed Robb and how badass of a commander he was. Other than the Wall/Hardhome stuff, the only real battle they showed was Blackwater, which was awesome, but this was something else entirely. Next season is going to be almost all war I'm guessing.
