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GGG had a chance to fight Quillin and instead signed an exclusive contract with HBO and still does.
Holy shit you literally just make shit up. Before there were any Haymon vs HBO problems, Golovkin offered Quillin a fight and he flat out rejected it. That's a fact. He later said he'll only fight Golovkin if it's for (Mayweather-Pacquiao money). Don't even bring up this bum.


GGG accepts step aside money.
And why did he do that? Because the title owner, Cotto, threatened to drop the belt if he didn't. Either way, he wouldn't get the fight and couldn't "put in work". Cotto clearly wasn't going to fight him, we know that.


GGG is only willing to move up a full weight class as long as it's not Ward and it's a ppv.
Wrong again, you're on a roll! Golovkin offered to fight Ward at 168 pounds in 2013, Ward turned down the fight stating, and I quote, "He needs to build his name up."

Fast forward a couple years, after Wards self inflicted exile from the sport, he contacted Golovkin about a fight AFTER Golovkin just signed a fight with Lemieux with the expectation of fighting the WBC winner after that (Cotto/Canelo). Roc Nations offer? Sign to fight at 168 for a year down the road at an unknown date and unknown purse. Not much of an offer, especially considering they had Lemieux on deck and obviously wanted to get the WBC mandatory enforced. You don't take a fight in a weight class above you at an unknown date when you're expecting a Canelo fight to happen. Of course when Golovkin wasn't mandatory to WBC and was in a position to fight wherever he wanted, he offered Ward a fight and he turned it down outright.


Canelo has done none of that. After 3 years, he got the Mexican Holidays by switching networks, fighting a non ppv fight, and defeating Cotto. Canelo acknowledged that even though he brings in the most money he still took the high road and accepted being the "B" sider vs any other big name fighter until now.
Oh poor Canelo only made $10 million versus Cotto who was the champion! Jeez what amazing sacrifice!


And he even fought a catchweight fight.
No fucking shit all of his fights are catchweights. Before Floyd Mayweather he made guys like Matthew Hatton fight him at 150 pound catchweight, and then failed to make weight lol and still won the vacant belt. He had numerous catchweight fights before Floyd. And he made a gazillion dollars against Mayweather for a glorified sparring session. Poor guy! Again, what amazing sacrifices he's made!


ALL of GGG's fights are free because he doesn't take the risks.
Lol WTF are you even saying? PPV fights are on PPV because one or both fighters are big stars, has little to do with risk (see Canelo vs Khan).

Golovkin vs Sergio Martinez
Golovkin vs Felix Sturm
Golovkin vs Peter Quillin
Golovkin vs Dmitry Pirog
Golovkin vs N'dam
Golovkin vs Cotto
Golovkin vs Canelo
Golovkin vs Froch
Golovkin vs Chavez
Golovkin vs Mundane


These are all fights Golovkin has tried to make and was flat out rejected (with exception to Pirog who pulled out due to injury). Many of those fights were big risks.

I've said it before at a full 160, GGG kills Canelo. At catchweight, GGG's boxing skills should be enough to defeat Canelo. So why won't he do it? Money! He wants more than he deserves. That's the "fucking around" Canelo is talking about.
Are you seriously this fucking delusional that you're now blaming Golovkin for Canelo handing over his belt because of money? lmao! K2 have said numerous times Canelo would obviously get the lionshare of the purse, no one has ever denied that. The most money Golovkin has made in a fight was $2.5m. They would gladly accept 70/30 split or whatever it may be for the opportunity. But Canelo doesn't want the fight, you said yourself Canelo would get beat with or without a catchweight so there is your reason as to exactly fucking why they aren't fighting Golovkin next (they aren't dumb, they know how risky fighting Golovkin is).

If Canelo loses he will still make so much money that a rematch at GGG's demands will get him so much more and he can retire before he's 30, not 40 like Floyd
Then why aren't they making the fight? Right, they rather drop the belt, get absolutely slaughtered by fans and media and take a huge hit to his reputation, all for what? There is no logical excuse here man, they didn't want to fight Golovkin next, end of story.
 
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Battle stay getting roasted 24/7. Its pure comedy! Canelo is the biggest joke the sports ever seen simple because hes mexican pulling this cowardly shit! Got Em!!
How did I? I've been telling you guys that no matter what Canelo was going to fight GGG in 2017. And 2-0-Sixx wasn't there at the table with K2 and GBP so what he says doesn't matter
 
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Holy shit you literally just make shit up. Before there were any Haymon vs HBO problems, Golovkin offered Quillin a fight and he flat out rejected it. That's a fact. He later said he'll only fight Golovkin if it's for (Mayweather-Pacquiao money). Don't even bring up this bum.




And why did he do that? Because the title owner, Cotto, threatened to drop the belt if he didn't. Either way, he wouldn't get the fight and couldn't "put in work". Cotto clearly wasn't going to fight him, we know that.




Wrong again, you're on a roll! Golovkin offered to fight Ward at 168 pounds in 2013, Ward turned down the fight stating, and I quote, "He needs to build his name up."

Fast forward a couple years, after Wards self inflicted exile from the sport, he contacted Golovkin about a fight AFTER Golovkin just signed a fight with Lemieux with the expectation of fighting the WBC winner after that (Cotto/Canelo). Roc Nations offer? Sign to fight at 168 for a year down the road at an unknown date and unknown purse. Not much of an offer, especially considering they had Lemieux on deck and obviously wanted to get the WBC mandatory enforced. You don't take a fight in a weight class above you at an unknown date when you're expecting a Canelo fight to happen. Of course when Golovkin wasn't mandatory to WBC and was in a position to fight wherever he wanted, he offered Ward a fight and he turned it down outright.




Oh poor Canelo only made $10 million versus Cotto who was the champion! Jeez what amazing sacrifice!




No fucking shit all of his fights are catchweights. Before Floyd Mayweather he made guys like Matthew Hatton fight him at 150 pound catchweight, and then failed to make weight lol and still won the vacant belt. He had numerous catchweight fights before Floyd. And he made a gazillion dollars against Mayweather for a glorified sparring session. Poor guy! Again, what amazing sacrifices he's made!




Lol WTF are you even saying? PPV fights are on PPV because one or both fighters are big stars, has little to do with risk (see Canelo vs Khan).

Golovkin vs Sergio Martinez
Golovkin vs Felix Sturm
Golovkin vs Peter Quillin
Golovkin vs Dmitry Pirog
Golovkin vs N'dam
Golovkin vs Cotto
Golovkin vs Canelo
Golovkin vs Froch
Golovkin vs Chavez
Golovkin vs Mundane


These are all fights Golovkin has tried to make and was flat out rejected (with exception to Pirog who pulled out due to injury). Many of those fights were big risks.



Are you seriously this fucking delusional that you're now blaming Golovkin for Canelo handing over his belt because of money? lmao! K2 have said numerous times Canelo would obviously get the lionshare of the purse, no one has ever denied that. The most money Golovkin has made in a fight was $2.5m. They would gladly accept 70/30 split or whatever it may be for the opportunity. But Canelo doesn't want the fight, you said yourself Canelo would get beat with or without a catchweight so there is your reason as to exactly fucking why they aren't fighting Golovkin next (they aren't dumb, they know how risky fighting Golovkin is).



Then why aren't they making the fight? Right, they rather drop the belt, get absolutely slaughtered by fans and media and take a huge hit to his reputation, all for what? There is no logical excuse here man, they didn't want to fight Golovkin next, end of story.
Sorry bro, you are wrong in all aspects. You don't know if GBP had offered a 70-30 split and on the listed fighters you had 3 168 lbers. With Ward, he just wanted to call out big names just like he used Floyd's name. When it came down to reality and the fight was really going to happen he asked for a catchweight with K2 stating they are the "a" side. So for ppv money, he was willing to jump up to 168 a year or 2 ago but now he's staying at 160 and praying he gets that Canelo money. And the fighters you listed none of them are big risks. NONE exept the 168ers
 
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And the fighters you listed none of them are big risks. NONE exept the 168ers
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Golovkin was Sturm's mandatory from 2010-2012 during Sturm's peak and when Golovkin himself was fairly unproven, but yeah 0 risk there.

Pirog was such a non risk that he flattened Jacobs in 5 and is the only person to date to beat him.

Saying Sergio Martinez is not a risky fight is just fucking stupid.

I think he'd eat Quillin up but when that fight was being talked about they were both undefeated champions in the division, who'd want to see that?

The N'dam fight was talked about when they were both coming up in around 2010 and it would've been a solid fight at the time.

Cotto/Canelo are/were the fucking lineal champions in the division (same as Martinez). To say that would've been a bad fight/not risky is just fucking stupid.
 
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Ha so I looked up cause I kind of remembering talking about GGG Vs. N'Dam on here when it was talked about happening.

http://siccness.net/vb/5602202-post12196.html

Before fighting on HBO, out of many bad predictions I've made I nailed that one.
That fucker was ordered to fight Golovkin on two separate occasions, each time his side didn't even turn up for the purse bid and lost whatever eliminator/mandatory position he held at the time.

I like how battle even tries to downplay all the guys that ducked him as non risks but earlier complains about not putting in the work lol. So even if Golovkin fought and beat all these guys still not good enough for battle. Maybe he should take a page out of Canelos book and fight Josito Lopez, Khan and the likes.
 
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Golovkin was Sturm's mandatory from 2010-2012 during Sturm's peak and when Golovkin himself was fairly unproven, but yeah 0 risk there.

Pirog was such a non risk that he flattened Jacobs in 5 and is the only person to date to beat him.

Saying Sergio Martinez is not a risky fight is just fucking stupid.

I think he'd eat Quillin up but when that fight was being talked about they were both undefeated champions in the division, who'd want to see that?

The N'dam fight was talked about when they were both coming up in around 2010 and it would've been a solid fight at the time.

Cotto/Canelo are/were the fucking lineal champions in the division (same as Martinez). To say that would've been a bad fight/not risky is just fucking stupid.
You're not selling me on this at all. The only ppv chances GGG had was vs Martinez,(non risk), Cotto(153 lbs), Canelo(non risk) and 168 lbers (high risks). Just that alone 1/2 the fighters are 168 lbers or smaller guys. With the smaller guys he took that step aside money and the bigger guys his demands were pretty high or GGG was just using their names. Now, with Canelo it will be a ppv fight and GBP has said it would be a 90-10 split. GGG has to do something dramatic in order to bring his value up. The only way he can do that is by saying fuck Canelo and move up in weight class, or fight Canelo at a catchweight. What is wrong with what I'm saying?
 
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You're an idiot if you don't think Dmitry Pirog was a risk. Undefeated fighter with an unreal style of fighting (switched from Orthodox to Southpaw 50 times per round, the dude would smoothly transition between punches).

Felix Sturm at his peak when Golovkin had fought literally no one worth a damn was a risk.

Sergio Martinez before his legs got destroyed was obviously a big risk and better than anyone else at 160.

Not really sure why Golovkin being favored against guys is a bad thing, it just means he's that good. How many times has Canelo been the underdog? Floyd that's it.
 
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You're an idiot if you don't think Dmitry Pirog was a risk. Undefeated fighter with an unreal style of fighting (switched from Orthodox to Southpaw 50 times per round, the dude would smoothly transition between punches).

Felix Sturm at his peak when Golovkin had fought literally no one worth a damn was a risk.

Sergio Martinez before his legs got destroyed was obviously a big risk and better than anyone else at 160.

Not really sure why Golovkin being favored against guys is a bad thing, it just means he's that good. How many times has Canelo been the underdog? Floyd that's it.
Are Pirog or Sturm PPV fighters? No. Before Martinez"s knees got shot out he was still getting dropped. He's old. You still can't sell me shit because GGG for the past 2 years has been looking for a ppv dance partner, not a unification at 160.
 
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lol what? Now you're talking about ppv? You were the one that brought up risks.

Golovkin has consistently gone after the title holders and has said from day one he wants to unify the division. He has three of the four belts.
That's your fault for not knowing that all PPV main events are risks, and every other fight not a PPV main event is a scrub fight.

Also another thing I learned from reading battle's great wisdom is that people should fight their mandatories except when it comes to fighters he likes AND when he wants to discredit other guys competition, i.e. GGG Vs. Wade who you know was a mandatory..
 
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What are you trying to prove by posting this, that K2 would like to fight Canelo next? This is shocking how exactly? They had agreed to fight each other, in contract that after their fights (Wade/Khan) they would fight. The entire boxing world wants the fight to happen (besides you apparently).

K2 have said if Canelo is a no, then the top priority is Saunders who owns the last belt, Danny Jacobs who is WBA "regular champ" (although he has a fight scheduled vs TBA July 30th) after that it's anyone's guess, Lara or 168.
 
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What are you trying to prove by posting this, that K2 would like to fight Canelo next? This is shocking how exactly? They had agreed to fight each other, in contract that after their fights (Wade/Khan) they would fight. The entire boxing world wants the fight to happen (besides you apparently).

K2 have said if Canelo is a no, then the top priority is Saunders who owns the last belt, Danny Jacobs who is WBA "regular champ" (although he has a fight scheduled vs TBA July 30th) after that it's anyone's guess, Lara or 168.
You know what I'm trying to prove. It's really not all about unifying the belts. He got what he wanted out of Canelo, now let's move on