When Bernie Sanders wins

[2-0-Sixx]

None of these candidates are capable of being a real president IMO. They were pre selected to be the next puppet. The elections are rigged.

So Bernie was pre selected to show us how the game is rigged? His whole campaign is based on how the game is rigged and every time he wins he loses with the delegates going to Hillary which has only shown people how fake the democrat process is. His campaign has put a big black eye on the democrat party and the election system in general. Whoever these people are who "pre selected" him must have messed up then.

 

[SocialResponsibility]

What do you call a minimum wage then?

I don't think you understood what I meant by fair pay. Fair pay certainly isn't $7.25/hr

What I'm saying is there's a ton of minimum wage employees who shouldn't even be making minimum wage cause they're fucking pikers.

And who put the gun to their head to tell them they have to make min wage their whole life? Shit I figured out at a young age that if I want to make real money I better start getting educated along with putting in work.

I guess I don't understand your philosophy. I'm of the opinion that there are opportunities to better yourself, work hard, so you don't have to be stuck on min wage. And I'm sorry, the idiots who dropped $50,000 to go to some online or for-profit college who thought they would make $100,000 coming out are idiots. A college degree is equivalent to a high school degree. And if you were a fuck up most of your life and at the age of 27 thought that getting a degree from Copella entitled you to high wages, you're an idiot. I have no sympathy for that.

You are not entitled to fair wage. I'm sorry - you're not. You are not entitled to fair housing. In the US, you are entitled to basic civil liberties (aka freedom) and that's about it. I want no part of a society who takes from those who earned it to give to those who didn't want to excercise their freedom and opportunity to better themselves. There are plenty of jobs in the US if people want to work - but they don't. They rather collect unemployment than go work at McDonalds - and that's a huge fucking problem. Until we fix the government providing subsidies to those people who rather sit at home - then we are ALL FUCKED.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

And I'm sorry, the idiots who dropped $50,000 to go to some online or for-profit college who thought they would make $100,000 coming out are idiots. A college degree is equivalent to a high school degree. And if you were a fuck up most of your life and at the age of 27 thought that getting a degree from Copella entitled you to high wages, you're an idiot. I have no sympathy for that.

lolwut

 

[StillHustlin]

So Bernie was pre selected to show us how the game is rigged? His whole campaign is based on how the game is rigged and every time he wins he loses with the delegates going to Hillary which has only shown people how fake the democrat process is. His campaign has put a big black eye on the democrat party and the election system in general. Whoever these people are who "pre selected" him must have messed up then.

Heard of George Soros? Guess Sanders can select which Billionaires to go after and ignore the others (can't bite the hand that feeds him). People with at least half a brain ain't fallin' for Bernie Sanders ol' been in politics 45 years and changed nada mf. They ALL dirty dumbass.

 

[StillHustlin]

Take that to the bank

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Wow that's certainly a negative way to stereotype millions of poor and struggling Americans, as if it's each and everyone of their fault they grew up poor. You talk about the freedom of getting an education and getting better jobs, as if that's available to everyone. Grow up on the south side Chicago or Detroit or countless other cities and counties and let's talk about what options are available exactly to the youth, let's talk about what kind of programs are available to help the poor rise above it all (oh right you aren't in favor of any program funded by by the state).

The government providing "subsidies" to poor people is a tiny dent in the grand scheme of things. Look at all the money that goes into the military and "defense"

It's some bullshit propaganda/rhetoric that "subsidies" to the poor is hurting our economy and country. And while sure, I'm sure there are a number of poor people on food stamps who are content being poor and working at McDonald's, the majority sure as hell aren't. Nobody wants to be poor, rather it's the conditions and lack of opportunities and education that keep people, generations of people, poor. Of course there are the examples of poor people making it and that's wonderful. Always respect someone who makes something out of nothing. But the American Dream sure as hell isn't available for everyone.

 

[Foul Mouth]

It's not realistic in our outdated system that has long past it's useful purpose but if you want this country to progress at all and the world to progress then absolutely school should be free to all, along with healthcare and basic housing and a basic right to fair pay. If you want this country to continue the downward spiral of widening the economic gap of the rich and everyone else, by all means support the status quo.

When the education system is a for profit entity there is a deep fundamental flaw. When the healthcare system is for profit there is a deep fundamental flaw. Doritos is an excellent example you bring up, since it has harmful chemicals and bullshit junk that no one in their right minds would ever include in food unless it's about maximizing profit and making the shareholders money, so that ethics, quality and everything else go out the window, and they realize hey! We can save millions of dollars to switching to a chemical that is used in rubber car tires, so what if it's harmful it will widen our profit margins, brilliant! If this is the world you're OK with, where the worker bees work too much, get sick, fall behind in medical debt, struggle to pay their mortgage if their lucky enough while getting fucked over in every which direction, well that's a pretty sick and twisted world view. It's time we start evolving this country and become more progressive rather than go backwards.

that's all good but you didn't answer my question. do you think those people making minimum wage at $15 will be better off?

and fuck Doritos. take that away and use an egg farm, or a trail mix company. the added price doesn't change.

 

[Foul Mouth]

Uh, really? Community colleges are already virtually free compared to 4 years. How do they do it???? Must be all volunteer-run, right?

yeah, us volunteering our tax money so they can live lav. go ask Janet Napolitano why she thinks she's worth $500K+ a year, or why she's worth a $8K+ a month rent allowance on us tax payers.

so make everything free with the current system? do you just keep getting deeper into personal debt? or do you fix your self before taking on more?

 

[Foul Mouth]

Free high school? LOL There is no such thing. Have you ever heard of taxes? yadat

of course high school isn't free. it isn't even free if you have no kids but own a house in the district. i use the term "free" cus some people believe in "free".

 

[StillHustlin]

LOL where did you get that graph, SALON? MOTHER JONES? LMAO

2013: $2.3+ Trillion Dollar Total of Social Security, Medicare and Means Tested Welfare
_http://budget.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rectortestimony04172012.pdf

2013: $619 Billion Dollar Military Spending

 

[StillHustlin]

What do you do for a living gus?

 

[Foul Mouth]

You talk about the freedom of getting an education and getting better jobs, as if that's available to everyone. Grow up on the south side Chicago or Detroit or countless other cities and counties and let's talk about what options are available exactly to the youth,

so Chicago don't got any entry level jobs? no McDees, Taco Bell, KFC, they don't have a mall and other big box retailers? you know those places hire youth, all day. but it's not cool to work at JCPenney and wear a tie when your boys are out there grinding. it ain't cool to wrap a burrito supreme when your boys are having fun on the block. that shits available to all the youth. it's a personal decision to not want to take an entry level job as a youth.

they don't have high schools and community colleges out there? if they do, are they accessible to only kids with money?

what state funded programs are you in favor of that are better than education and entering the job market?

 

[troythemac]

Free high school? LOL There is no such thing. Have you ever heard of taxes? yadat

Nothing is free. Someone pays for it, the banks, who run this country make sure of it.

I give credit to Bernie, even though he has done nothing in four decades as a politician, he doesn't flip his positions to appease. However, he is less of a socialist than Hillary.

The game is rigged so what is really being discussed here?

Everyone's political fantasies? Without A revolution yaw fucced.

How much was your high school tuition?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

so Chicago don't got any entry level jobs? no McDees, Taco Bell, KFC, they don't have a mall and other big box retailers? you know those places hire youth, all day. but it's not cool to work at JCPenney and wear a tie when your boys are out there grinding. it ain't cool to wrap a burrito supreme when your boys are having fun on the block. that shits available to all the youth. it's a personal decision to not want to take an entry level job as a youth.

You're an idiot man, seriously no clue what you're talking about and out of touch with reality. Yeah man, working at McDonald's in south side Chicago is a great opportunity, can really excel in that field.

 

[Foul Mouth]

You're an idiot man, seriously no clue what you're talking about and out of touch with reality. Yeah man, working at McDonald's in south side Chicago is a great opportunity, can really excel in that field.

i'm an idiot is your answer? is that your answer to my $15 an hour question too?

so everybody deserves to make $40K a year as their first job?

do you know what "entry level" means? do you know what "work history" means? kids all day go on the block and get drug or gun charges. instead of getting a bullshit "entry level" job, they go and fuck around to prove a point to society and their counterparts. they catch a case then they can't get a job no more. building a work history becomes that much difficult. that shits all day. maybe not where your at, but it's very obvious you are the one not in touch with reality.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

i'm an idiot is your answer?

It was a statement not an answer, an observation regarding your ignorance.

so everybody deserves to make $40K a year as their first job?

What I'm saying is the minimum wage should absolutely be raised, it's long over do and if we go by inflation over the years, the minimum wage should actually be $21/hr.

No one said anything about 40K either for your first job. btw $15/hr is about $31k annually.

It's funny though, when you're talking about south side Chicago, as if you know anything about that, you mention opportunities like McDonald's, Taco Bell, etc. You know how much that pays? $8.25/hr which is about $17,100 annually. You think anyone can survive off that? Of course not. The point is there are very little opportunities, so little it forces people to do other things to get by.

do you know what "entry level" means? do you know what "work history" means? kids all day go on the block and get drug or gun charges. instead of getting a bullshit "entry level" job, they go and fuck around to prove a point to society and their counterparts. they catch a case then they can't get a job no more. building a work history becomes that much difficult. that shits all day. maybe not where your at, but it's very obvious you are the one not in touch with reality.

And here you go stereotyping an entire city again. You think every single person on the south side is fucking around on the block selling drugs? Do you even know why the youth is on the block fucking around in the first damn place? Because of exactly what we've been talking about - lack of resources, lack of education, lack opportunities, lack of everything. Sure, you can get an entry job at McDonald's making your $17k a year then what? Get a job at the thousands of flourishing businesses in the south side that hire McDonald's employees?

There is so much more data you're lacking, the history of Chicago, gentrification, literally pushing black people out of neighborhoods and into the poorest least desirable locations, creating an extremely segregated city, extremely poor underfunded public school system which leads to high dropout rates, unemployment, not to mention massive corruption in every part of the local government down to the police force etc etc etc that have all led to these conditions that resemble a fucking warzone in certain areas where the circumstances are so dire and so depressing there is literally no way out for thousands of people. The choices for many is literally sell drugs or prostitution. You really have no clue what you're saying here.

 

[Foul Mouth]

It's funny though, when you're talking about south side Chicago, as if you know anything about that, you mention opportunities like McDonald's, Taco Bell, etc. You know how much that pays? $8.25/hr which is about $17,100 annually. You think anyone can survive off that? Of course not. The point is there are very little opportunities, so little it forces people to do other things to get by.

And here you go stereotyping an entire city again. You think every single person on the south side is fucking around on the block selling drugs? Do you even know why the youth is on the block fucking around in the first damn place? Because of exactly what we've been talking about - lack of resources, lack of education, lack opportunities, lack of everything. Sure, you can get an entry job at McDonald's making your $17k a year then what? Get a job at the thousands of flourishing businesses in the south side that hire McDonald's employees?

i don't have much sympathy for the adults who have no hope. i see field workers at the Super Mercados every day buying food with cash, not food stamps. nothing necessarily wrong with food stamps, but i see people every day defying odds. then you have people like you spouting off that McDees aint shit, so why should they think McDees is worth a shit.

i'm talking about the youth. the ones who aint out there tryna prove a point to society and their counterparts are getting those bullshit entry level jobs, tryna create a work history. who gives a fuck if they get $8.25 an hour? they aint paying bills. their parents are/should be. it's about the youth. do you have to get a job in South Side Chicago if you live there? they won't hire you in other parts? do they not have bus passes? your full of excuses and people like you fuel excuses into the people who your tryna "save".

There is so much more data you're lacking, the history of Chicago, gentrification, literally pushing black people out of neighborhoods and into the poorest least desirable locations, creating an extremely segregated city, extremely poor underfunded public school system which leads to high dropout rates, unemployment, not to mention massive corruption in every part of the local government down to the police force etc etc etc that have all led to these conditions that resemble a fucking warzone in certain areas where the circumstances are so dire and so depressing there is literally no way out for thousands of people. The choices for many is literally sell drugs or prostitution. You really have no clue what you're saying here.

so blame history for the future you choose? i grew up down the street from prostitution and a shit load of drugs to sell and take. every fucked city has a history of pushing colors to certain neighborhoods (left overs) while whites build new neighborhoods not allowing colors. that's probably new to you since you started to want to get involved and started reading. that's not news to a lot of other people who are from that.

you think just because you want to help that you really know what your talking about.

 

[TrEmEnDo InDo]

i don't have much sympathy for the adults who have no hope. i see field workers at the Super Mercados every day buying food with cash, not food stamps. nothing necessarily wrong with food stamps, but i see people every day defying odds.

When you use a different minority group to equate to the black community it's very telling of how much you understand about being black in America.

 

[SocialResponsibility]

lolwut

A college degree is the equivalent as a high school degree was 40 years ago. For the most part, just having a college degree doesn't separate you from the field of job seekers. It is more like a basic, minimum requirement.

 

[Foul Mouth]

When you use a different minority group to equate to the black community it's very telling of how much you understand about being black in America.

really? isnt 2-0 white? but he's speakin the real about minorities? and i was talkin bout blacks and browns from the git.

blacks and mexicans both got it bad in similar and different ways. dont give me that shit. i grew up around everybody and every circumstance 2-0 has read about. before he bought his first rap tape.