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Danny Garcia-Victor Postol Winner Must Face Matthysse
According to sources in Argentina, the World Boxing Council has named Lucas Matthysse (373, 34KOs) as the mandatory challenger to the WBC junior welterweight title. Matthysse returned to form two weeks ago, winning a twelve round majority decision over dangerous Ruslan Provodnikov in Verona, New York.
Matthysse had challenged champion Danny Garcia for the title in 2013 and lost a twelve round majority decision. The Argentine fighter has won three fights since. Garcia must first face number one challenger Viktor Postol, but there is no word on what will happen with Garcia fighting above the junior welterweight limit in his last two ring appearances and most expect him to move up to welterweight before the end of the year. Should Garcia move up and vacate, it would leave the door open for a Matthysse vs. Postol clash for the vacant title.
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Danny Garcia-Victor Postol Winner Must Face Matthysse
According to sources in Argentina, the World Boxing Council has named Lucas Matthysse (373, 34KOs) as the mandatory challenger to the WBC junior welterweight title. Matthysse returned to form two weeks ago, winning a twelve round majority decision over dangerous Ruslan Provodnikov in Verona, New York.
Matthysse had challenged champion Danny Garcia for the title in 2013 and lost a twelve round majority decision. The Argentine fighter has won three fights since. Garcia must first face number one challenger Viktor Postol, but there is no word on what will happen with Garcia fighting above the junior welterweight limit in his last two ring appearances and most expect him to move up to welterweight before the end of the year. Should Garcia move up and vacate, it would leave the door open for a Matthysse vs. Postol clash for the vacant title.
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@HERESY
Actually, it is because of Haymon that Lara's stock went down. Lara had a scheduled title defense vs Ishe Smith and dropped it because Haymon ADVISED Lara to take the Canelo fight at 155 for a non-title fight. Being that Canelo was fighting on Showtime he had no one to face at 155, he could have been forced to fight Lara at 154 later in the year for the WBC 154 title. Lara could have increased his chances to win as Canelo clearly did not want to struggle to make 154.
@HERESY
Actually, it is because of Haymon that Lara's stock went down. Lara had a scheduled title defense vs Ishe Smith and dropped it because Haymon ADVISED Lara to take the Canelo fight at 155 for a non-title fight. Being that Canelo was fighting on Showtime he had no one to face at 155, he could have been forced to fight Lara at 154 later in the year for the WBC 154 title. Lara could have increased his chances to win as Canelo clearly did not want to struggle to make 154.
Blame Lara. He had a chance and failed.
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You are delusional as fuck and not reading. Lara, beating Canelo, would have made his stock soar. That was his biggest fight and he didn't get the job done. He was already a mandatory, if he beats Canelo, the heart and soul of Mexican boxing, his stock goes through the roof.
Stop trollin, nigga.
Stop trollin, nigga.
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Battle stop bullshitting, you Haymon haters say he prevents good fights from happening. Lara actually fights a good opponent opposed to some fuckhead that noone cares about and your saying its Haymons fault now that Laras stock went down lol. You need to get your story straight if your gonna contiously badmouth someone
Lara's stock never dropped because he never had any stock to begin with. I like the guy but he's always only going to be known by hardcore fans, his style is not appealing to anyone else.
He has himself to blame for the Canelo fight. He COULD have won if he let his hands go but he was on his bike WAY TOO MUCH, he doesn't fight smart like a true boxer/counter puncher like Rigondeaux, etc, you got to land punches and put in work while you box, it's hit and not be hit, not don't hit and don't be hit lol.
Anyways, anyone in their right mind would jump on a Canelo fight over Ishe Smith! Winning a belt over Smith does nothing, losing to Canelo does more. Floyd would have never of fought Lara unless Lara got a big win on his resume first. Plus the WBC never enforces mandator ies for Floyd anyways, I mean they let Floyd defend both his 147 and 154 belts against Maidana for crying out loud.They don't give a shit, as long as they get their 3% of the purse they are happy.
He has himself to blame for the Canelo fight. He COULD have won if he let his hands go but he was on his bike WAY TOO MUCH, he doesn't fight smart like a true boxer/counter puncher like Rigondeaux, etc, you got to land punches and put in work while you box, it's hit and not be hit, not don't hit and don't be hit lol.
Anyways, anyone in their right mind would jump on a Canelo fight over Ishe Smith! Winning a belt over Smith does nothing, losing to Canelo does more. Floyd would have never of fought Lara unless Lara got a big win on his resume first. Plus the WBC never enforces mandator ies for Floyd anyways, I mean they let Floyd defend both his 147 and 154 belts against Maidana for crying out loud.They don't give a shit, as long as they get their 3% of the purse they are happy.
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words from the man that's going to give floyd his 1st loss
Thurman predicts Mayweather victory, but ‘Floyd is vulnerable’
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Champion Keith Thurman boxes Robert Guerrero into a corner during their WBA welterweight title fight Saturday, March 7, 2015 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. Thurman won by unanimous decision. (Sam Morris/Las Vegas Review-Journal)
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Referee Kenny Bayless watches as champion Keith Thurman hits Robert Guerrero with a right during their WBA welterweight title fight Saturday, March 7, 2015 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. Bayless has been announced as the referee for the fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. (Sam Morris/Las Vegas Review-Journal)
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By STEVE CARP
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Keith Thurman may lay claim to a share of the world welterweight title. But nobody has anointed him king just yet.
That day may be coming. But for this week, Thurman, the reigning World Boxing Association champ, is relegated to fan status. And like millions of others, he’ll be watching when Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, the current kings of boxing, finally meet in their world welterweight unification title fight Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden.
“I think it’s going to be an interesting fight,” said Thurman, who retained his title March 7 after hammering Robert Guerrero over 12 rounds at the Grand Garden and improving to 25-0 with 21 knockouts. “I believe Floyd is going to win because he hasn’t shown us a reason why he has lost enough to not still be the best pound-for-pound fighter.”
Mayweather is the WBA’s “Super” champion. Thurman, 26, can only hope he can get a shot at a mega-payday with either the 38-year-old Mayweather or the 36-year-old Pacquiao before they leave the sport. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao have said they plan to retire within the next year.
“I would love, love that opportunity,” Thurman said. “If it happens, it happens. But I’m focused on what I do and I’m just going to be at the MGM and enjoy this one.”
While Thurman believes Mayweather will prevail Saturday, he also believes Pacquiao has a very good chance of beating Mayweather if he can do enough things right and convince the judges.
“(Mayweather) is not (Juan Manuel) Marquez. He’s not going to knock Manny out,” Thurman said. “Floyd hasn’t knocked anyone out in a really long time. He’s had problems with his hands over the years and he’s older now. I think he’s trying to preserve his hands to the best of his ability and he throws what I call ‘scoring blows’ — one that’s strong enough to pop the head back and make it clear for the judges to see but not one where you can’t walk through and continue to fight him.
“So Manny has to come prepared to take a few counters, throw those combinations and outwork him. But it would help Manny after he outworks him to step back and not take those counters. If he throws a five-punch combination and he gets hit with a counter, which one of those are the judges going to favor? The right counter by Floyd which looks beautiful every time he throws it? Or Manny’s combinations?”
Thurman believes Pacquiao has an advantage over Mayweather when it comes to quickness.
“I see Manny Pacquiao using his speed,” Thurman said. “We know Mayweather is very crafty. He’s very slippery and he holds. One thing people don’t give him credit for is how he strategically holds and he can break and get back on the outside.
“I’m interested in how Floyd’s going to deal with Manny’s speed and I’m interested in how Manny is going to deal with Floyd’s speed.”
Thurman said Mayweather’s likely to use his right hand to negate Pacquiao’s attack.
“I expect Floyd to pop that right hand right down the pike all night and fire,” he said. “He’s going to use the jab, hit to the solar plexus like Floyd likes to do so he can mix up his power shots. But I expect Floyd to be on his toes, and pop a shot. I don’t expect a lot of combinations out of Floyd but I expect him to move, use a lot of strategic punching and strategic holding and maneuvers to stay out of danger of Manny Pacquiao.”
Thurman said Pacquiao needs to be the volume puncher he has been throughout his career in order to get the upper hand against Mayweather, who is arguably the greatest defensive fighter of his generation and one of the best defensive fighters of all time.
“Manny Pacquiao can throw punches in bunches from some awkward angles and that’s going to benefit him during the fight,” Thurman said. “If Manny wants to win, its going to take a high work rate. Volume, volume, volume. Take the counter, take it.”
Thurman said Pacquiao also needs to take advantage of Mayweather’s being a slow starter.
“Floyd is vulnerable,” Thurman said. “If you watch any of his fights, you’ll see he’s highly vulnerable over the first three rounds and I think that will favor Manny Pacquiao. But Floyd is able to figure out things very quickly. Floyd can normally adjust within three rounds.
“In the Canelo (Alvarez) fight (in September 2013), he was taking risks. Canelo was throwing left hooks that weren’t connecting and if Manny is able to counter himself and land some punches, he can hurt Floyd. Manny has more speed than Canelo, Marcos Maidana or Robert Guerrero. It’s going to be very intriguing.”
Thurman predicts Mayweather victory, but ‘Floyd is vulnerable’
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Champion Keith Thurman boxes Robert Guerrero into a corner during their WBA welterweight title fight Saturday, March 7, 2015 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. Thurman won by unanimous decision. (Sam Morris/Las Vegas Review-Journal)
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Referee Kenny Bayless watches as champion Keith Thurman hits Robert Guerrero with a right during their WBA welterweight title fight Saturday, March 7, 2015 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. Bayless has been announced as the referee for the fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. (Sam Morris/Las Vegas Review-Journal)
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By STEVE CARP
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Keith Thurman may lay claim to a share of the world welterweight title. But nobody has anointed him king just yet.
That day may be coming. But for this week, Thurman, the reigning World Boxing Association champ, is relegated to fan status. And like millions of others, he’ll be watching when Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, the current kings of boxing, finally meet in their world welterweight unification title fight Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden.
“I think it’s going to be an interesting fight,” said Thurman, who retained his title March 7 after hammering Robert Guerrero over 12 rounds at the Grand Garden and improving to 25-0 with 21 knockouts. “I believe Floyd is going to win because he hasn’t shown us a reason why he has lost enough to not still be the best pound-for-pound fighter.”
Mayweather is the WBA’s “Super” champion. Thurman, 26, can only hope he can get a shot at a mega-payday with either the 38-year-old Mayweather or the 36-year-old Pacquiao before they leave the sport. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao have said they plan to retire within the next year.
“I would love, love that opportunity,” Thurman said. “If it happens, it happens. But I’m focused on what I do and I’m just going to be at the MGM and enjoy this one.”
While Thurman believes Mayweather will prevail Saturday, he also believes Pacquiao has a very good chance of beating Mayweather if he can do enough things right and convince the judges.
“(Mayweather) is not (Juan Manuel) Marquez. He’s not going to knock Manny out,” Thurman said. “Floyd hasn’t knocked anyone out in a really long time. He’s had problems with his hands over the years and he’s older now. I think he’s trying to preserve his hands to the best of his ability and he throws what I call ‘scoring blows’ — one that’s strong enough to pop the head back and make it clear for the judges to see but not one where you can’t walk through and continue to fight him.
“So Manny has to come prepared to take a few counters, throw those combinations and outwork him. But it would help Manny after he outworks him to step back and not take those counters. If he throws a five-punch combination and he gets hit with a counter, which one of those are the judges going to favor? The right counter by Floyd which looks beautiful every time he throws it? Or Manny’s combinations?”
Thurman believes Pacquiao has an advantage over Mayweather when it comes to quickness.
“I see Manny Pacquiao using his speed,” Thurman said. “We know Mayweather is very crafty. He’s very slippery and he holds. One thing people don’t give him credit for is how he strategically holds and he can break and get back on the outside.
“I’m interested in how Floyd’s going to deal with Manny’s speed and I’m interested in how Manny is going to deal with Floyd’s speed.”
Thurman said Mayweather’s likely to use his right hand to negate Pacquiao’s attack.
“I expect Floyd to pop that right hand right down the pike all night and fire,” he said. “He’s going to use the jab, hit to the solar plexus like Floyd likes to do so he can mix up his power shots. But I expect Floyd to be on his toes, and pop a shot. I don’t expect a lot of combinations out of Floyd but I expect him to move, use a lot of strategic punching and strategic holding and maneuvers to stay out of danger of Manny Pacquiao.”
Thurman said Pacquiao needs to be the volume puncher he has been throughout his career in order to get the upper hand against Mayweather, who is arguably the greatest defensive fighter of his generation and one of the best defensive fighters of all time.
“Manny Pacquiao can throw punches in bunches from some awkward angles and that’s going to benefit him during the fight,” Thurman said. “If Manny wants to win, its going to take a high work rate. Volume, volume, volume. Take the counter, take it.”
Thurman said Pacquiao also needs to take advantage of Mayweather’s being a slow starter.
“Floyd is vulnerable,” Thurman said. “If you watch any of his fights, you’ll see he’s highly vulnerable over the first three rounds and I think that will favor Manny Pacquiao. But Floyd is able to figure out things very quickly. Floyd can normally adjust within three rounds.
“In the Canelo (Alvarez) fight (in September 2013), he was taking risks. Canelo was throwing left hooks that weren’t connecting and if Manny is able to counter himself and land some punches, he can hurt Floyd. Manny has more speed than Canelo, Marcos Maidana or Robert Guerrero. It’s going to be very intriguing.”
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That lawsuit is meaningless. Haymons pockets are too deep. If you think his investors are going to sit back while a lawsuit happens you're as delusional as we all know you are.
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I really wanted to see Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury first, would have been an epic build up and led perfectly into a Klitschko fight, but this will do.
Fury is going to get KO'd, but still will be interesting & straight comedy to watch...Wlad isn't used to fighting guys taller and heavier than him (I think he only has once in his career against crappy ass Mariusz Wach), so I'd love to see if Fury will try to push him around the ring. Also the trash talking from Fury will be hilarious you can count on that. Wlad probably KO's him within 3-4 rounds. But after the Jennings fight, this 39 year old Klitschko is looking the most vulnerable he has in years. Hopefully after he beats Fury, he'll be past prime just enough that Deontay Wilder can knock his ass out!
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Klitschko-Fury Ordered, 60-Day Negotiation Begins May 5
By Jake Donovan
World heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko is all but confirmed to next face brash unbeaten challenger Tyson Fury. The fight has formally been ordered by the World Boxing Organization (WBO) and World Boxing Associations (WBA), with a 60-day negotiations period due to begin Tuesday, May 5.
In the event that an agreement cannot be reached between the two camps, the bout will then be subject to a purse bid hearing.
Klitschko (64-3, 53KOs) is coming off of a 12-round points win over unbeaten American contender Bryant Jennings on April 24 at Madison Square Garden in New York City. The bout was Klitschko’s first stateside appearance in more than seven years.
The last such occurrence also took place at Madison Square Garden and against an undefeated fighter, when Klitschko outpointed Sultan Ibragimov over 12 rounds.
Eight of Klitschko’s 18 consecutive defenses at least one title over the past nine years have come versus unbeaten opposition. A fight with Fury would mark his third straight against such a challenger. Prior to his win over Jennings, the reigning heavyweight king handed Kubrat Pulev his first defeat in scoring a 5th round knockout last November.
The win over Pulev served as Klitschko’s mandatory defense of the International Boxing Federation (IBF) title. The new mandatory challenger for the IBF is Vyacheslav Glazkov, with the defense due by late August. It remains to be seen whether Klitschko will be forced to give up a belt, or if an exemption will be granted.
Fury (24-0, 18KOs) officially punched his way into title contention following a 10th round stoppage of Dereck Chisora in their well-publicized rematch last November. The two had previously met in 2011, with Fury winning a 12-round decision when both were unbeaten prospects but neither at their best.
The rematch was a different story, as Fury caught a version of Chisora riding a five-fight win streak and confidence at an all-time high. The career-best win was followed up by an 8th round stoppage of Christian Hammer in a stay-busy fight this past February.
Fury took the fight with Hammer while agreeing to step aside to allow Klitschko to face Jennings in a voluntary. The concession came with the understanding that he would be next in line, which Klitschko is willing to honor in acknowledging his mandatory obligations in post-fight remarks following his win over Jennings.
Fury is going to get KO'd, but still will be interesting & straight comedy to watch...Wlad isn't used to fighting guys taller and heavier than him (I think he only has once in his career against crappy ass Mariusz Wach), so I'd love to see if Fury will try to push him around the ring. Also the trash talking from Fury will be hilarious you can count on that. Wlad probably KO's him within 3-4 rounds. But after the Jennings fight, this 39 year old Klitschko is looking the most vulnerable he has in years. Hopefully after he beats Fury, he'll be past prime just enough that Deontay Wilder can knock his ass out!
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Klitschko-Fury Ordered, 60-Day Negotiation Begins May 5
By Jake Donovan
World heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko is all but confirmed to next face brash unbeaten challenger Tyson Fury. The fight has formally been ordered by the World Boxing Organization (WBO) and World Boxing Associations (WBA), with a 60-day negotiations period due to begin Tuesday, May 5.
In the event that an agreement cannot be reached between the two camps, the bout will then be subject to a purse bid hearing.
Klitschko (64-3, 53KOs) is coming off of a 12-round points win over unbeaten American contender Bryant Jennings on April 24 at Madison Square Garden in New York City. The bout was Klitschko’s first stateside appearance in more than seven years.
The last such occurrence also took place at Madison Square Garden and against an undefeated fighter, when Klitschko outpointed Sultan Ibragimov over 12 rounds.
Eight of Klitschko’s 18 consecutive defenses at least one title over the past nine years have come versus unbeaten opposition. A fight with Fury would mark his third straight against such a challenger. Prior to his win over Jennings, the reigning heavyweight king handed Kubrat Pulev his first defeat in scoring a 5th round knockout last November.
The win over Pulev served as Klitschko’s mandatory defense of the International Boxing Federation (IBF) title. The new mandatory challenger for the IBF is Vyacheslav Glazkov, with the defense due by late August. It remains to be seen whether Klitschko will be forced to give up a belt, or if an exemption will be granted.
Fury (24-0, 18KOs) officially punched his way into title contention following a 10th round stoppage of Dereck Chisora in their well-publicized rematch last November. The two had previously met in 2011, with Fury winning a 12-round decision when both were unbeaten prospects but neither at their best.
The rematch was a different story, as Fury caught a version of Chisora riding a five-fight win streak and confidence at an all-time high. The career-best win was followed up by an 8th round stoppage of Christian Hammer in a stay-busy fight this past February.
Fury took the fight with Hammer while agreeing to step aside to allow Klitschko to face Jennings in a voluntary. The concession came with the understanding that he would be next in line, which Klitschko is willing to honor in acknowledging his mandatory obligations in post-fight remarks following his win over Jennings.
ABC calls on U.S. Attorney General to launch investigation of Haymon
By Karl Freitag
The Association of Boxing Commissions has asked the Attorney General of the United States to investigate “Alvin Haymon and various companies associated with him” for allegedly breaking numerous provisions of the Muhammad Ali Act.
In a six page letter to the Attorney General Loretta Lynch, ABC President Tim Lueckenhoff wrote, “Haymon and related companies make no attempt to hide that they operate in the dual capacities of promoter and manager. It was the Vice President of Operations “Haymon Boxing” which sat on the dais and participated in the announcement of the PBC series on NBC. No other promoter was present. Frankly Haymon seems to be flouting this breach of the Firewall provision of the Muhammad Ali Act.”
Lueckenhoff also cited numerous other apparent Muhammad Ali Act violations made by Haymon/PBC and noted that PBC appears headed toward also becoming a sanctioning organization with their own “in house” champions and belts.
The letter concludes, “The ABC has no resources or authority to investigate further or to take action with respect to this. However, we can and do request that there is “reasonable cause to believe” that Haymon is “engaged in a violation of this chapter” [15 U.S.C. 6301 et. seq.] and that 15 U.S.C. 6309 gives express authority to the United States Attorney General’s Office to investigate and to take action. We ask that you do so.”
By Karl Freitag
The Association of Boxing Commissions has asked the Attorney General of the United States to investigate “Alvin Haymon and various companies associated with him” for allegedly breaking numerous provisions of the Muhammad Ali Act.
In a six page letter to the Attorney General Loretta Lynch, ABC President Tim Lueckenhoff wrote, “Haymon and related companies make no attempt to hide that they operate in the dual capacities of promoter and manager. It was the Vice President of Operations “Haymon Boxing” which sat on the dais and participated in the announcement of the PBC series on NBC. No other promoter was present. Frankly Haymon seems to be flouting this breach of the Firewall provision of the Muhammad Ali Act.”
Lueckenhoff also cited numerous other apparent Muhammad Ali Act violations made by Haymon/PBC and noted that PBC appears headed toward also becoming a sanctioning organization with their own “in house” champions and belts.
The letter concludes, “The ABC has no resources or authority to investigate further or to take action with respect to this. However, we can and do request that there is “reasonable cause to believe” that Haymon is “engaged in a violation of this chapter” [15 U.S.C. 6301 et. seq.] and that 15 U.S.C. 6309 gives express authority to the United States Attorney General’s Office to investigate and to take action. We ask that you do so.”
