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Paulie Malignaggi: Mayweather doesn’t need Haymon Approval, Pacquiao needs Arum
Victor Salazar
By Victor Salazar January 22, 2015 11:09 pm
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Paulie Malignaggi has not been one to be mum on his stance on how the negotiations between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao should play out. He told our own Josh Grayfer that Mayweather is the A-Side, and if Pacquiao and Arum wanted to make the fight, they would have to accept the A-Side’s demands. Where the negotiations are at this point remains to be seen but Malignaggi feels the fight will happen.
“I think the fight is going to be made. They’re just little games being played on both sides,” Malignaggi told ThaBoxingVoice.com, “I think the fight happens, I think that’s what everyone wants. I think the fighters both know that what everybody wants, and more importantly I think the promoters know that’s what everybody wants.”
As the B-Side in the negotiation, it has been reported that Pacquiao has agreed to all terms that include the date, venue, drug testing protocol, and the lesser of a 60-40 split. So dare we ask why hasn’t the fight happened. Malignaggi believes it is mind games between Mayweather and Arum holding up the fight.
“In this case its Arum with Pacquiao, he’s going to try to fight to get as much as he can and rightfully so,” explained Malignaggi. “He’s the promoter of Manny. At the same time, Floyd is the A side, and they’re going to have to submit to a lot of negotiations. They’re going to have to remiss on a lot of the demands. It’s ok I think it’s going to be enough to make the fight because I think Arum is playing mind games at the moment and so is Floyd. The more Arum talks, the more Floyd reminds Manny that’s its Arum doing the negotiations, not Manny. Even if Manny says I agree to everything, it’s Arum that has to agree to everything because it’s Arum that’s the boss.”
Many people say Mayweather doesn’t make his decisions either, and the man behind Mayweather is the ever powerful Al Haymon, who advises over 130 fighters, including Malignaggi. The “Magic Man “feels that the situation between Mayweather and Haymon is far different that Pacquiao and Arum.
“People say Floyd has a boss to but Floyd is the one dictating the terms, so he sets them forth for you so you(Pacquiao) and Arum have to agree to them,” stated Malignaggi. “If I say I (Pacquiao) agree to the fight, my promoter has to agree to the fight too because my promoter is getting a cut of the money, so they want to make the best of the negotiations too. Floyd ain’t got to dictate what they do, and Al Haymon isn’t going to tell him what to do but advises him. In Manny’s case, he can’t do the deal without Arum approving.”
All that being said, Malignaggi stands firm in his belief that we finally get what we have wanted for over five years now.
“I think it’s going to come together, I heard some up lighting news. I think it’ll get done before the Super Bowl.
Victor Salazar
By Victor Salazar January 22, 2015 11:09 pm
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Paulie Malignaggi has not been one to be mum on his stance on how the negotiations between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao should play out. He told our own Josh Grayfer that Mayweather is the A-Side, and if Pacquiao and Arum wanted to make the fight, they would have to accept the A-Side’s demands. Where the negotiations are at this point remains to be seen but Malignaggi feels the fight will happen.
“I think the fight is going to be made. They’re just little games being played on both sides,” Malignaggi told ThaBoxingVoice.com, “I think the fight happens, I think that’s what everyone wants. I think the fighters both know that what everybody wants, and more importantly I think the promoters know that’s what everybody wants.”
As the B-Side in the negotiation, it has been reported that Pacquiao has agreed to all terms that include the date, venue, drug testing protocol, and the lesser of a 60-40 split. So dare we ask why hasn’t the fight happened. Malignaggi believes it is mind games between Mayweather and Arum holding up the fight.
“In this case its Arum with Pacquiao, he’s going to try to fight to get as much as he can and rightfully so,” explained Malignaggi. “He’s the promoter of Manny. At the same time, Floyd is the A side, and they’re going to have to submit to a lot of negotiations. They’re going to have to remiss on a lot of the demands. It’s ok I think it’s going to be enough to make the fight because I think Arum is playing mind games at the moment and so is Floyd. The more Arum talks, the more Floyd reminds Manny that’s its Arum doing the negotiations, not Manny. Even if Manny says I agree to everything, it’s Arum that has to agree to everything because it’s Arum that’s the boss.”
Many people say Mayweather doesn’t make his decisions either, and the man behind Mayweather is the ever powerful Al Haymon, who advises over 130 fighters, including Malignaggi. The “Magic Man “feels that the situation between Mayweather and Haymon is far different that Pacquiao and Arum.
“People say Floyd has a boss to but Floyd is the one dictating the terms, so he sets them forth for you so you(Pacquiao) and Arum have to agree to them,” stated Malignaggi. “If I say I (Pacquiao) agree to the fight, my promoter has to agree to the fight too because my promoter is getting a cut of the money, so they want to make the best of the negotiations too. Floyd ain’t got to dictate what they do, and Al Haymon isn’t going to tell him what to do but advises him. In Manny’s case, he can’t do the deal without Arum approving.”
All that being said, Malignaggi stands firm in his belief that we finally get what we have wanted for over five years now.
“I think it’s going to come together, I heard some up lighting news. I think it’ll get done before the Super Bowl.
Brandon Rios “However the first round goes, that’s how the fight is going to be”
James Allen
By James Allen January 23, 2015 2:58 am
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box_rios_alvarado_07Brandon Rios (32-2, 23KO’s) of Oxnard, California is gearing up to complete his triumvirate of fights with longstanding rival Mike Alvarado, on January 24th, in what is essentially his opponent’s backyard at the 1stBank Center in Bloomfield, Colorado.
The two fighters, both renowned for their willingness to wade through tremendous amounts of punishment in order to get the win. The first two fights between them ended with one win apiece; a seventh round stoppage in late 2012 for Rios followed by a points win in early ’13 for Alvarado. Both instances were welcome delicacies to the palate of the bloodthirsty fight fan.
“However the first round goes, that’s how the fight is going to be, and we are ready. We are ready for war; we are ready for boxing and ready for everything that we are going to make adjustments. I know it’s going to be a great fight, and the fans are going to love this one.” said Rios.
Rios identifies with Alvarado as a man. He sees traits in his competitor he possesses in himself, and that is why the two combine in such combustible fashion.
“There is no animosity between Mike and me; we are cool. We are the same kind of people. We are the same person. We know what it takes to be where we are at. We both have our problems outside the ring, and we both have our problems inside the ring. We know that and at the end of the day we are both the same person. We are both from the hood – we both grew up like that. We understand ‘real’ and we recognize ‘real,’ and that’s what we are we are real fighters. We are cool outside the ring but once we get in that ring, we hate each other. We want to kill each other and that’s what makes this sport and that’s what makes these fights more exciting because everyone thinks that ‘these guys are too close, they have fun together, but once they get in the ring they kill each other.’ It’s like the Army, all of the soldiers are your brothers. Alvarado is like my brother and we fight – we fight until somebody gets hurt.”
I’m grateful my brothers and I do not treat each other in a similar fashion because I most likely wouldn’t have fingers left to type with.
Throughout his entire career Rios has thrived in the notably harsh environment he creates for himself in the ring. His style is to get in close, right in the firing line, to roll, duck, and block, and then throw clusters of hurtful hooks and uppercuts. It is an approach that dismisses the notion of ‘safety first’.
It was an effective strategy when he was fighting down in the lightweight division where he could make his physicality count for so much more, but as has been well documented Rios struggled to get below 135 .lb. So much he felt the need to move up, and against the bigger guys he hasn’t had the same success. Both fights with Alvarado were at 140 lb. And he looked good in each. In the two fights following against Manny Pacquiao(a wide points loss) and Diego Chaves(a disqualification win in which he was down on the cards), he jumped up another seven pounds to welterweight. It was not a good look for him. The flab on his torso would be less of a problem if the activity he used to bring hadn’t dropped considerably too.
“From the Pacquiao fight, it is what it is. He showed why he is one of the greatest in the world, and I am proud to have lost to one of the greatest in the world. I was confident going into that fight, and I thought I was going to win that fight, but I lost, and there is nothing I can take away from that. And that controversial win (Chaves) – how is that controversial? Because the guy is eye-gouging me? And keeps eye-gouging me and eye-gouging me – that is controversial? Because he was winning? I still had another round to come back – I was down a point on the cards. It wasn’t like I was losing the whole entire fight. I was down one point and still had a round to go. That’s why he was eye-gouging me because he felt the pressure and the power so he had no other choice than to do his dirty tactics, which he did. I read that in Argentina he is doing all kinds of dirty (stuff) – he bit a British kid in the amateurs. This guy is a dirty guy. You might think it is controversial then you can think that, but at the end of the day I don’t really care what anybody says about it. A win is a win, and I still got the win.”
A win, even a debatable win, may be enough to pick Rios up from this lull he seems to be in. Perhaps, that is why he is content to take a win in whatever fashion it comes. Any psychological boost must be important to a fighter on the eve of engagement.
“I am so focused right now and ready for this fight. It is unbelievable. I had a tremendous training camp, and I know what could happen if we lose and what could happen if we win. My mind is set on the prize and for the glory. I am still young in the sport, and I have a lot to give to it
James Allen
By James Allen January 23, 2015 2:58 am
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box_rios_alvarado_07Brandon Rios (32-2, 23KO’s) of Oxnard, California is gearing up to complete his triumvirate of fights with longstanding rival Mike Alvarado, on January 24th, in what is essentially his opponent’s backyard at the 1stBank Center in Bloomfield, Colorado.
The two fighters, both renowned for their willingness to wade through tremendous amounts of punishment in order to get the win. The first two fights between them ended with one win apiece; a seventh round stoppage in late 2012 for Rios followed by a points win in early ’13 for Alvarado. Both instances were welcome delicacies to the palate of the bloodthirsty fight fan.
“However the first round goes, that’s how the fight is going to be, and we are ready. We are ready for war; we are ready for boxing and ready for everything that we are going to make adjustments. I know it’s going to be a great fight, and the fans are going to love this one.” said Rios.
Rios identifies with Alvarado as a man. He sees traits in his competitor he possesses in himself, and that is why the two combine in such combustible fashion.
“There is no animosity between Mike and me; we are cool. We are the same kind of people. We are the same person. We know what it takes to be where we are at. We both have our problems outside the ring, and we both have our problems inside the ring. We know that and at the end of the day we are both the same person. We are both from the hood – we both grew up like that. We understand ‘real’ and we recognize ‘real,’ and that’s what we are we are real fighters. We are cool outside the ring but once we get in that ring, we hate each other. We want to kill each other and that’s what makes this sport and that’s what makes these fights more exciting because everyone thinks that ‘these guys are too close, they have fun together, but once they get in the ring they kill each other.’ It’s like the Army, all of the soldiers are your brothers. Alvarado is like my brother and we fight – we fight until somebody gets hurt.”
I’m grateful my brothers and I do not treat each other in a similar fashion because I most likely wouldn’t have fingers left to type with.
Throughout his entire career Rios has thrived in the notably harsh environment he creates for himself in the ring. His style is to get in close, right in the firing line, to roll, duck, and block, and then throw clusters of hurtful hooks and uppercuts. It is an approach that dismisses the notion of ‘safety first’.
It was an effective strategy when he was fighting down in the lightweight division where he could make his physicality count for so much more, but as has been well documented Rios struggled to get below 135 .lb. So much he felt the need to move up, and against the bigger guys he hasn’t had the same success. Both fights with Alvarado were at 140 lb. And he looked good in each. In the two fights following against Manny Pacquiao(a wide points loss) and Diego Chaves(a disqualification win in which he was down on the cards), he jumped up another seven pounds to welterweight. It was not a good look for him. The flab on his torso would be less of a problem if the activity he used to bring hadn’t dropped considerably too.
“From the Pacquiao fight, it is what it is. He showed why he is one of the greatest in the world, and I am proud to have lost to one of the greatest in the world. I was confident going into that fight, and I thought I was going to win that fight, but I lost, and there is nothing I can take away from that. And that controversial win (Chaves) – how is that controversial? Because the guy is eye-gouging me? And keeps eye-gouging me and eye-gouging me – that is controversial? Because he was winning? I still had another round to come back – I was down a point on the cards. It wasn’t like I was losing the whole entire fight. I was down one point and still had a round to go. That’s why he was eye-gouging me because he felt the pressure and the power so he had no other choice than to do his dirty tactics, which he did. I read that in Argentina he is doing all kinds of dirty (stuff) – he bit a British kid in the amateurs. This guy is a dirty guy. You might think it is controversial then you can think that, but at the end of the day I don’t really care what anybody says about it. A win is a win, and I still got the win.”
A win, even a debatable win, may be enough to pick Rios up from this lull he seems to be in. Perhaps, that is why he is content to take a win in whatever fashion it comes. Any psychological boost must be important to a fighter on the eve of engagement.
“I am so focused right now and ready for this fight. It is unbelievable. I had a tremendous training camp, and I know what could happen if we lose and what could happen if we win. My mind is set on the prize and for the glory. I am still young in the sport, and I have a lot to give to it
Lucas “La Máquina” Matthysse Renews with Golden Boy, What about Haymon?
ThaBoxingVoice
By ThaBoxingVoice January 23, 2015 12:57 pm
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Lucas Matthysse vs John Molina
WBC Silver Super Lightweight Champion Lucas “La Máquina” Matthysse (36-3, 34 KOs) announced today that he had renewed his promotional contract with Golden Boy Promotions. The Argentinean star first got his start in 2004 entering the professional boxing scene with a powerful technical knockout. Since then Matthysse has had a promising career winning by knock out 34 times out of his 36 wins.
“As Golden Boy works to put together a 2015 full of huge, fan-friendly fights, Lucas Matthysse is, and will now remain, a core part of our team,” said Oscar De La Hoya, Founder and President of Golden Boy Promotions. “Lucas is a strong and powerful fighter, someone the elite of the division have to look out for in the years to come, and we are excited to continue our successful partnership with him.”
“I am excited to continue to work with Oscar and Golden Boy Promotions,” said Lucas Matthysse. “They are my family. They have supported me and built my career from the beginning and I’m loyal to them as they have been to me. I’m looking forward to my future and what 2015 has to offer.”
“We are very happy to continue our relationship with Golden Boy Promotions,” said Mario Arano, Manager of Matthysse. “Golden Boy Promotions has exceeded expectations, and we look forward to what 2015 will hold for Lucas under the tremendous support and guidance of Oscar.”
Most recently, Matthysse faced Roberto “Massa” Ortiz in a 12-round bout for the WBC Silver Super Lightweight title on Sept. 6 in Cincinnati, Ohio. Matthysse stole the night with a knock down over Ortiz with a powerful body shot in round two, which took Ortiz over 10 seconds to recover, ruling the bout in Matthysse’s favor.
Earlier in 2014, Matthysse waged war against John Molina Jr. for the vacant WBC Continental Americas Super Lightweight title at the Stub Hub Center in Carson City, Calif. He gave the crowd a great show as he went to battle in the 12-round bout. Matthysse was knocked down twice before roaring back to finish Molina in the 11th round of a thrilling war that received considerable ‘Fight of the Year’ interest for 2014.
ThaBoxingVoice
By ThaBoxingVoice January 23, 2015 12:57 pm
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Lucas Matthysse vs John Molina
WBC Silver Super Lightweight Champion Lucas “La Máquina” Matthysse (36-3, 34 KOs) announced today that he had renewed his promotional contract with Golden Boy Promotions. The Argentinean star first got his start in 2004 entering the professional boxing scene with a powerful technical knockout. Since then Matthysse has had a promising career winning by knock out 34 times out of his 36 wins.
“As Golden Boy works to put together a 2015 full of huge, fan-friendly fights, Lucas Matthysse is, and will now remain, a core part of our team,” said Oscar De La Hoya, Founder and President of Golden Boy Promotions. “Lucas is a strong and powerful fighter, someone the elite of the division have to look out for in the years to come, and we are excited to continue our successful partnership with him.”
“I am excited to continue to work with Oscar and Golden Boy Promotions,” said Lucas Matthysse. “They are my family. They have supported me and built my career from the beginning and I’m loyal to them as they have been to me. I’m looking forward to my future and what 2015 has to offer.”
“We are very happy to continue our relationship with Golden Boy Promotions,” said Mario Arano, Manager of Matthysse. “Golden Boy Promotions has exceeded expectations, and we look forward to what 2015 will hold for Lucas under the tremendous support and guidance of Oscar.”
Most recently, Matthysse faced Roberto “Massa” Ortiz in a 12-round bout for the WBC Silver Super Lightweight title on Sept. 6 in Cincinnati, Ohio. Matthysse stole the night with a knock down over Ortiz with a powerful body shot in round two, which took Ortiz over 10 seconds to recover, ruling the bout in Matthysse’s favor.
Earlier in 2014, Matthysse waged war against John Molina Jr. for the vacant WBC Continental Americas Super Lightweight title at the Stub Hub Center in Carson City, Calif. He gave the crowd a great show as he went to battle in the 12-round bout. Matthysse was knocked down twice before roaring back to finish Molina in the 11th round of a thrilling war that received considerable ‘Fight of the Year’ interest for 2014.
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.. Beterbiev vs Chilemba not happening so HBO going to open 3/14 Kovalev-Pascal with Mikael Zewski vs TBA.
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Paulie is getting worse and worse. His analysis is still good live, but all of his little interviews he's doing are getting ridiculous.
If I suspected anyone of doing PED's in boxing, it would be Pascal. Dude looks like an action figure. He also has very underrated speed. I think he has some of the fastest hands in boxing.
If I suspected anyone of doing PED's in boxing, it would be Pascal. Dude looks like an action figure. He also has very underrated speed. I think he has some of the fastest hands in boxing.
What does everyone think about this?
I have 3 points:
1. Good entertaining fight.
2. Canelo is dumb for having this on May 2nd (if that is indeed the plan).
3. It's not PPV worthy. By May it will be what, 16 months of inactivity for Kirkland? I don't think he's ready, he could get sparked first round for all we know. No way I'm dishing over $60 for a potential one round fight (unless the undercard is stacked as fuck). Now if Kirkland was active this whole time, I'd feel more confident.
EDIT
Apparently this will NOT be on HBO and the date is not yet determined:
http://www.boxingscene.com/-canelo-agrees-terms-face-kirkland-on-hbo--86653
I have 3 points:
1. Good entertaining fight.
2. Canelo is dumb for having this on May 2nd (if that is indeed the plan).
3. It's not PPV worthy. By May it will be what, 16 months of inactivity for Kirkland? I don't think he's ready, he could get sparked first round for all we know. No way I'm dishing over $60 for a potential one round fight (unless the undercard is stacked as fuck). Now if Kirkland was active this whole time, I'd feel more confident.
EDIT
Apparently this will NOT be on HBO and the date is not yet determined:
http://www.boxingscene.com/-canelo-agrees-terms-face-kirkland-on-hbo--86653
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VICE did a great article on Paul Williams:
https://sports.vice.com/article/dow...ampion-paul-williams/?utm_source=vicesportsfb
https://sports.vice.com/article/dow...ampion-paul-williams/?utm_source=vicesportsfb
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Al Haymon to Air Boxing on BET
by Robert Littal | Posted on Saturday, January 24th, 2015
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It is an interesting business model Al Haymon has put together, I am not sure if it is going to work, but for short term it will be good for boxing.
Al Haymon along with his investors are essentially buying TV time on various networks to show fights under his Premiere Boxing Champions moniker. Deals have already been secured with NBC and SPIKE TV. According to ESPN, CBS Sports Net and BET will also show PBC fights.
Haymon who has 150+ boxers in his stable wants to bring boxing back to network and free cable TV. Exactly how he is going to profit from this is unknown, but as I said at the beginning it is the fans who are the short term winners in thi
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Al Haymon to Air Boxing on BET
by Robert Littal | Posted on Saturday, January 24th, 2015
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al-haymon
It is an interesting business model Al Haymon has put together, I am not sure if it is going to work, but for short term it will be good for boxing.
Al Haymon along with his investors are essentially buying TV time on various networks to show fights under his Premiere Boxing Champions moniker. Deals have already been secured with NBC and SPIKE TV. According to ESPN, CBS Sports Net and BET will also show PBC fights.
Haymon who has 150+ boxers in his stable wants to bring boxing back to network and free cable TV. Exactly how he is going to profit from this is unknown, but as I said at the beginning it is the fans who are the short term winners in thi