Unarmed Teen Shot To Death By Police In St. Louis While His Hands Were Up

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HERESY

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ok, so the gun looked real then...correct? I read that he reached near his waist band...do you have the video?
No they haven't released the vid yet. They said in 60 days they will turn it over to prosecutors but there are already rumors of a grand jury for this case.

They did however show pics of the gun and it does look real.
 
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"my Twitter feed is filled with white people scared of what their real black friends will think if they don't tweet about #Ferguson smh ����"

White guilt is running rampant right now lol. But to be honest the whole ferg thing could have been handled a lot better, the cop was obviously bitch made.
 
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Fight back how? Become educated in what?

Fight back by becoming educated, getting out of their wretched existance. Get off the welfare, and make some use of their god given talents. Everybody has them. Its not hard to go out and do an honest days work. Quit trying to live up to what you see on T.V.



No, people are slaves. Slaves to corporations, money, a broken system, substance, religion and a host of other things. Now granted chattal slavery no longer exists in this country, but the institutional deviancy running rampant is a throwback to Jim Crow. Black people have fought and died in every war this country has known yet in many places they can't even take part in the LIE/CHARADE known as the voting process/elections.

Agreed. But if you didnt commit a felony offense, you are able to vote. I dont bitch and complain about not being able to vote.

And what you want to hear about means what exactly? Because you don't want to hear about it means it's nonexistent and therefore not relevant to the premise of the thread or your post? Your own race has called you a nigger and discarded you? This is incorrect. Certain people within your race, who you have interactions with may have done so. Change your appearance and ideologies and see if they welcome you back. Travel to a different spot and see how they treat you.

My ideologies and appearance are fine. I believe in nonviolence these days unless somebody puts their hands on me. And even then, im not going to kill somebody unless that is the last resort. My interactions happened in California. A state that is a little bit less racist than, say, a Missouri, or a southern state. The fact is, i had a child with a black woman, and have been chastised by white people and black people every where i go.



No, the fact you directly or indirectly benefited from it, and are spouting off as if you haven't is pretty sufficient proof that you have.

Again, nothing wrong with working and taking care of your family. Ive come along way from being homeless as a child. Ive been at the very bottom of society. If i can get out of a living hell, anyone can.


This contradicts science, sociology, psychiatry and psychology. Would you like to discuss social mobility and how the numbers don't support your claim?

With time, hard work, and a good attitude, mostly anything is attainable.

This is true in some cases and in others it's a matter of an infrastructure being in place and having access to it and the resources it provides.

Again, do the work, and it can be achieved. Its not rocket science. And even if it is, a new skill can be learned if you apply yourself.

What about the people who don't react violently and still are abused or killed by police?

If you stay cool around the police, and dont act like a moron, chances are they arent going to kill you. As for abuse, i agree. Its fucked up that they abuse the badge. But if you are able to vote, change it.

I thought you said slavery didn't exist?

It doesnt. We arent chained up, being beaten and dehumanized. Break the rules and you pay for it. Simple as that. We have a democracy for a government, which means we, the people, can change the laws that arent working, as long as the majority can come together as a whole. The poor people are the majority.

Please refer to my previous comments about social mobility and how your claims are in direct contradiction to various sectors in education.

Spare me. I went from convicted felon to college student. If you want it bad enough, you can do it. This defeatist attitude is what is holding people back. Grow a pair and take some responsibility. Any able bodied or minded human can do it, regardless of race, sex, or class. Its a challenge though and some people dont have perseverance. Things will never change unless you push the issue.
 
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I know you said you were being serious, but it's hard for me to believe you wish an entire town burns to the ground.
Sometimes things need to change only if the previous portion is completely "rebooted". A fresh start if you will. Furgeson has had numerous issues in the past...this is not the first incident involving the police in that town. Its well documented.

Its never a good thing when nearly 70% of the town is black, and nearly 90% of the cops are white. And yes, i am very much making this a racial thing and i believe it is as such more than a class thing. We are talking about the south here...where racism is alive and well today.

Check this stat out:

The racial composition of Ferguson has shifted since 1990, however. In 1990, residents of Ferguson who were identified in the U.S. Census as White comprised 73.8% of the total, while those identified as Black made up 25.1%.[21] (The remainder, 1.1%, identified with other racial categories.) In the 2000 census, 44.7% were White and 52.4% were African American. In the 2010 census, 29.3% were White and 67.4% were African American.
 

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Fight back by becoming educated, getting out of their wretched existance. Get off the welfare, and make some use of their god given talents. Everybody has them. Its not hard to go out and do an honest days work. Quit trying to live up to what you see on T.V.
Everyone has talent? What about the differences in aptitude? What about an infrastructure that has the resources to nourish one persons talent while another talented individual falls by the wayside. And while I agree with not living up to what is seen on t.v., you're still marketed to via the internet. radio and other things. A cat you see on a daily basis, hammer on is side, mounts on his fingers, flipped whip and a fine beezy is going to have more impact then the tv because you can actually SEE this person and, in some cases, relate to him because he came from the same place you did.

So it's not all about tv and marketing.

Agreed. But if you didnt commit a felony offense, you are able to vote. I dont bitch and complain about not being able to vote.
What the hell is voting going to do?

This country is not a democracy or republic. So you punched a hole in a piece of cardboard or checked off a name/box. Big deal. Bombs still drop. Legislations and statutes still pass. Your money is still misappropriated. Scandals still happen. Pick your poison and swallow it with a smile on your face, right?

My ideologies and appearance are fine.
So why were you called a nigger and, as you put it, disowned by your race?

I believe in nonviolence these days unless somebody puts their hands on me. And even then, im not going to kill somebody unless that is the last resort. My interactions happened in California. A state that is a little bit less racist than, say, a Missouri, or a southern state. The fact is, i had a child with a black woman, and have been chastised by white people and black people every where i go.
I'm in Cali, the bay area. If you were to go into a bank and apply for a business loan, you would be more likely to get it. You ever had your job application tossed because your name was Tyrone, Leroy or LaShonda? Having a child by a black woman has caused you to not be hired? Not be approved for a home loan? Yes? No?

Again, nothing wrong with working and taking care of your family. Ive come along way from being homeless as a child. Ive been at the very bottom of society. If i can get out of a living hell, anyone can.
This "I can do it it anyone can" mentality is not supported by sectors of education that deal with what we're talking about here. There has to be a infrastructure in place. There has to be resources available. There has to be knowledge of the resources and their has to be people willing to provide the resources without ostracizing those who need them.

But you went from being a homeless child and the very bottom of society to the top, without anyone's help or assistance right?

With time, hard work, and a good attitude, mostly anything is attainable.
So now it's "mostly anything is attainable?" This contradicts science, sociology, psychiatry and psychology. Would you like to discuss social mobility and how the numbers don't support your claim?

Again, do the work, and it can be achieved. Its not rocket science. And even if it is, a new skill can be learned if you apply yourself.
See above. You're contradicting areas of education that absolutely refute your claim time and time again.

If you stay cool around the police, and dont act like a moron, chances are they arent going to kill you. As for abuse, i agree. Its fucked up that they abuse the badge. But if you are able to vote, change it.
Chances are what? 1 in 1,000,000? 1 in 789,788,666,123,456,789? Again, what about the people who stay cool around the police and don't act like a moron?

And if you are able to vote? Again, how is voting going to change anything when we live in a place that is neither a democracy or a republic? We are a plutocracy, hegemony, oligarchy and corporatocracy all neatly packaged and spoon fed to people who actually believe that voting works.

It doesnt. We arent chained up, being beaten and dehumanized.
These are the only things that constitute slavery? In any case, a see many people that are mentally, emotionally and spiritually in bondage. I see many of people being beaten by the police and dehumanized by them. But, in your world, where anyone can come up, these things are totally nonexistent and all it takes is belief, hard work and dedication, not to mention not acting like a moron, and everything will be fine.

Break the rules and you pay for it. Simple as that. We have a democracy for a government, which means we, the people, can change the laws that arent working, as long as the majority can come together as a whole. The poor people are the majority.
So when the people at the top break the rules and are not held accountable for them then what? We do NOT have a democracy for a government. We are a plutocracy, hegemony, oligarchy and corporatocracy

Spare me.
I won't spare you shit just give it to you straight.

I went from convicted felon to college student. If you want it bad enough, you can do it. This defeatist attitude is what is holding people back. Grow a pair and take some responsibility. Any able bodied or minded human can do it, regardless of race, sex, or class. Its a challenge though and some people dont have perseverance. Things will never change unless you push the issue.
Who is holding a defeatest attitude? I'm holding a realist attitude that is supported by reality and not some pipe dream lie that I accepted because I need something to tickle my ears. So you went from being a felon to a college student. Great. Did you do it on your own or did you have people supporting you and helping you along the way? Were you able to get resources? Did someone believe in you enough to give you a chance?

It is FOOLISH to believe that anyone can make it, because, in reality, not everyone is going to make it. Ask any person who did their due diligence, had a bp, developed a SWOT, tried to raise incestment capital and never could only to have some other guy do the exact same thing, raise the money and make millions.

But hey, if you just beleeb den ebrythang will happen.
 

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And let me say this, This shit is NOT a black and white thing. It may seem like that because we're only dealing with the surface of the problem. This is a problem between the haves and the have nots. Nothing more but because they can keep us divided on race, culture, sexual preference, religion, etc then the gap is going to get larger. They don't give a fuck about Billy Bob from Bumfuck Idaho. Just like they don't give a fuck about Deshawn from Watts. The problem is, people who are underserved have been manipulated by certain people and the cycle continues. The problem is when one group feels powerless they are turned into the victim.

The longer we fight for the crumbs the worse it will get.
 
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Sometimes things need to change only if the previous portion is completely "rebooted". A fresh start if you will. Furgeson has had numerous issues in the past...this is not the first incident involving the police in that town. Its well documented.

Its never a good thing when nearly 70% of the town is black, and nearly 90% of the cops are white. And yes, i am very much making this a racial thing and i believe it is as such more than a class thing. We are talking about the south here...where racism is alive and well today.

Check this stat out:
Racial or not, how does burning down people's homes, businesses, and taking away their jobs and livelihoods solve this problem? Easy to say the whole town should get burned when you don't live there. In fact I bet most of the people doing the burning and rioting (not to be confused with protesting) aren't even from Ferguson. They're just completely fucking over the people of Ferguson and making it worse for them.
 

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The bold is not true, bro.

I had a cat tell me he was going to rely on his whiteness to get some shit and he did exactly that.
maybe for that particular situation, but nah fam it is very much an illusion...

being in the hood & being white will tell you otherwise. You are a black / Mexican the second those red & blue lights pop on, & if you get presented by a public pretender in court, you're a poor classless case & catch second hand treatment.

class war presented otherwise by the media & black 'leaders' like Al Sharpton for further their potential political gain.