Russia mocks US: The only thing interesting about the US is 2pac
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There are a lot of parallels indeed. But this is not a reason to demonize Putin - if should be reason to pause and reflect on western behavior towards Russia.
The winners of WWI made a terrible mistake by imposing such conditions on the losers. They understood that mistake two decades later thus Japan and Germany were rebuilt and turned into industrial powers after WWII. But it seems that the lesson was largely forgotten and after the Cold War the losers were humiliated at every opportunity. Is the outcome any surprise?
The winners of WWI made a terrible mistake by imposing such conditions on the losers. They understood that mistake two decades later thus Japan and Germany were rebuilt and turned into industrial powers after WWII. But it seems that the lesson was largely forgotten and after the Cold War the losers were humiliated at every opportunity. Is the outcome any surprise?
Russia is one of the very few countries in the world that is self-sufficient in everything essential. And it has the huge advantage of having a population that is accustomed to hardship. An economic crisis of the kind that they endured in the 1990s would have caused a complete social breakdown in the US. Keep that in mind
Exactly. Putin represents oligarchs who enriched themselves by plundering Russia after the collapse of the USSR. He is incapable of any progressive solutions to this problem. Still, we can see why Russia has taken this position, knowing what they know (The US/EU funded the opposition parties in the Ukraine) and truthfully they are in more power. Any sanctions and embargos they can live with. They can live fine without German automobiles, but maybe Germany Isn't so comfortable losing Russian oil, especially if Russia absorbs Eastern Ukraine as well. Germany has too much invested and will likely eventually back away from these threats of sanctions along with others. Russia knows this. That's why I think they have the upper hand here.
I can't type the response I need to type on my phone. This calls for my chair a. nd computer.
I don't see a lot of threads because I pretty much confine myself to two sections of the boards so giving me a mention or something like Mac Jesus did will allow me to see it.
Anyway, in depth response tomorrow.
I don't see a lot of threads because I pretty much confine myself to two sections of the boards so giving me a mention or something like Mac Jesus did will allow me to see it.
Anyway, in depth response tomorrow.
Keep in mind that this is not over though.
1. Eastern and Southern Ukraine are going to be the real issue in the near future. Because the Russians can not afford to lose Ukraine and by taking Crimea, they effectively cede Ukraine to western influence unless they take further steps to partition Ukraine. Ukrainian elections in the last decades have all been close affairs, of the 55-45 kind, and if you take away the most pro-Russian part of the country, you irreversibly lose the ability to control the whole country through the electoral process. So I don't see this stopping here. But partitioning the rest will be a much uglier process than annexing Crimea.
2. In the long term, there will be a real war between Russia and the West, it's almost inevitable. Russia is the one state that will remain in possession of large amounts of fertile land, fossil fuels and other natural resources, even after Peak Oil and climate change have started to seriously wreak havoc in most of the rest of the world. Yes, they will lose the southern steppes to desertification, but Southern Siberia will open up to agriculture so there will not be much net loss. Meanwhile everything south of Iowa will have turned into a dust bowl, and good portions of Southern Europe will look like Libya today. There will be a lot of appetite for that territory from a western direction (and from a southeastern too - imagine a billion and a half hungry Chinese and a Northeast Siberia with a total population of 5 million or so...). So the Russians will have to defend it again, sooner or later. Once you see it from that perspective, you can understand why they had no choice but to draw the line and stop the encirclement here.
1. Eastern and Southern Ukraine are going to be the real issue in the near future. Because the Russians can not afford to lose Ukraine and by taking Crimea, they effectively cede Ukraine to western influence unless they take further steps to partition Ukraine. Ukrainian elections in the last decades have all been close affairs, of the 55-45 kind, and if you take away the most pro-Russian part of the country, you irreversibly lose the ability to control the whole country through the electoral process. So I don't see this stopping here. But partitioning the rest will be a much uglier process than annexing Crimea.
2. In the long term, there will be a real war between Russia and the West, it's almost inevitable. Russia is the one state that will remain in possession of large amounts of fertile land, fossil fuels and other natural resources, even after Peak Oil and climate change have started to seriously wreak havoc in most of the rest of the world. Yes, they will lose the southern steppes to desertification, but Southern Siberia will open up to agriculture so there will not be much net loss. Meanwhile everything south of Iowa will have turned into a dust bowl, and good portions of Southern Europe will look like Libya today. There will be a lot of appetite for that territory from a western direction (and from a southeastern too - imagine a billion and a half hungry Chinese and a Northeast Siberia with a total population of 5 million or so...). So the Russians will have to defend it again, sooner or later. Once you see it from that perspective, you can understand why they had no choice but to draw the line and stop the encirclement here.
On the first point, I am sure they have thought about it many moves ahead. In fact this is most likely a scenario they have had worked out and carefully planned for many years.
On the second point, I don't think the oligarchs are capable of thinking this far ahead either. But I consider it quite likely that there are people in the administration who do have a longer-term vision. Not having to worry about elections gives you a certain freedom regarding what you have time to think about. And even in the US, the politicians maybe largely clueless about these things but the military most definitely isn't as evidenced by publicly available documents (now imagine what the classified ones might contain).
On the second point, I don't think the oligarchs are capable of thinking this far ahead either. But I consider it quite likely that there are people in the administration who do have a longer-term vision. Not having to worry about elections gives you a certain freedom regarding what you have time to think about. And even in the US, the politicians maybe largely clueless about these things but the military most definitely isn't as evidenced by publicly available documents (now imagine what the classified ones might contain).
Long term as in how many years? I'm no environmental expert, but you make it seem like Russia is under some sort of invisible,protective barrier from climate change. And where did you hear that everything south of Iowa will turn into a dust bowl? Agricultural practices have greatly evolved from that time.
But anyways, even if everything you are saying is true, I can't picture it happening for generations to come. From that point I won't give a shit lol.
But anyways, even if everything you are saying is true, I can't picture it happening for generations to come. From that point I won't give a shit lol.
When you join the military there is always a possibility of war, stop kidding yourself. Yes, our veterans should be able to reap the benefits of having served or serving in the military, including education, building a career, and travel. Those are also things that can be accomplished without joining the military so I think you are arguing just for the sake of arguing, carry on if you wish.
Russia is an alleged ally who said they could turn our whole country into ash? Sounds like an enemy to me.
The US controls Britain? That's laughable breh. Funny, The Queen's Diamond Jubilee was aired in the US (what specials do we air in their country?), which was colonized by the The British Empire, which still flys the "Great Union Flag" in Hawaii. Wait, what? Its called the Union Flag? For the U-n-I-t-e-d K-I-n-g-d-o-m? The U-n-I-t-e-d States of America has 50 states in the U-n-i-o-n? What's going on here? How many US flags fly in Britain? President Obama has had at least 11 Rhodes scholars in his administration. Why are people sworn to England now creating our laws and pushing Rhodes agendas? How many US scholars who took US constitutional oaths are in the United Kingdom serving directly in their government? To be a Rhodes scholar you must take an oath to the Queen. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible for you, I would not want you to follow anything blindly now.
Russia is an alleged ally who said they could turn our whole country into ash? Sounds like an enemy to me.
The US controls Britain? That's laughable breh. Funny, The Queen's Diamond Jubilee was aired in the US (what specials do we air in their country?), which was colonized by the The British Empire, which still flys the "Great Union Flag" in Hawaii. Wait, what? Its called the Union Flag? For the U-n-I-t-e-d K-I-n-g-d-o-m? The U-n-I-t-e-d States of America has 50 states in the U-n-i-o-n? What's going on here? How many US flags fly in Britain? President Obama has had at least 11 Rhodes scholars in his administration. Why are people sworn to England now creating our laws and pushing Rhodes agendas? How many US scholars who took US constitutional oaths are in the United Kingdom serving directly in their government? To be a Rhodes scholar you must take an oath to the Queen. I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible for you, I would not want you to follow anything blindly now.
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P.S. Something I am not so sure about is that Putin represents the oligarchs. The oligarchs were created by the KGB. Same thing happened in Bulgaria, BTW, which is where we know the nature of the scheme from (information leaks easier in small countries) - the secret services found people to whom they distributed state assets with the goal of preserving economic power and control over the state in the hands of the communist elite. The plan did not succeed completely - in Bulgaria, some of the oligarchs rebelled against the arrangement, and as a result some of them got killed but so did some politicians who were secretly behind the operation. I don't know what exactly the situation is in Russia, but I consider the picture in which Putin is in the hands of the oligarchs to be the more unlikely to be true one. These are not independent people, due to the way they acquired their wealth. It is convenient for the Western media to paint that picture because it fits well with the narrative that the Soviet Union fell apart due to pressure from the West and the people rebelling against the system, when the truth is that the system was deliberately taken apart from within because it no longer fit the aspirations of the communist elite.
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It by no means is under a protective barrier from climate change. But:
1) A large part of it is very far north so the effects will be in fact positive for a significant portion of the territory.
2) The population density is low compared to the carrying capacity of the land.
Those are good things given what's coming. Very few countries are that lucky.
1) A large part of it is very far north so the effects will be in fact positive for a significant portion of the territory.
2) The population density is low compared to the carrying capacity of the land.
Those are good things given what's coming. Very few countries are that lucky.
Naw im pretty sure everyone i served with joined to go to war and im 100% that everyone i served with would go back to war at any given opportunity
It all comes down to the fact that Putin knows who he could punk he didnt try that shit with Bush, obama has shown no leadership in multiple times Benghazi Syria Iran obama is neck high.in shit with scandals his failed signature piece of legislation obamacare has been a complete failure he has turned in to an insurence salesman instead of President
It all comes down to the fact that Putin knows who he could punk he didnt try that shit with Bush, obama has shown no leadership in multiple times Benghazi Syria Iran obama is neck high.in shit with scandals his failed signature piece of legislation obamacare has been a complete failure he has turned in to an insurence salesman instead of President
