Russia mocks US: The only thing interesting about the US is 2pac

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It's impossible to defeat Russia in a war. What is anyone going to do, invade Russia? It never works out (Hitler, Napoleon, etc). Even after the October 1917 revolution, 21 imperialist countries sent armies to defeat the Revolution and the Red Army won (who were mostly workers, peasants and former Tsar army members). It's just too much land, extreme conditions, etc).
They got decimated at Leningrad and despite the Stalingrad victory they suffered more casualties than Germany. They also suffered more casualties than anyone else in ww2. And communism's influence is half of what it was back then.

So what makes you think this?

The only one thing I know for a fact is they have air superiority since their suhkoi jets are about 100x better than f35s. The same plane the military industrial complex (lockheed martin in this case) is pumping out and being bought by politicians who receive kickbacks (in Canada too -_-). War games proved f35s to be "double inferior" to Russian jets yet politicians want more!
 
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How could they "fuck them up?" Russia has a big military too and Nukes. Plus they have China on their side regarding Crimea. The US is fucked in this one.

There is a reason the US is only threatening Russia with sanctions. This isn't Iraq, or some smaller country if it were US troops would be there already. The US really can't do anything here. Crimea will become Russia again, and the US will talk alot of rhetoric while continue to fund the Ukrainian fascists but thats it.
Causing massive casualties, which can lead to public pressurre on Putin to pull back and make them realize Crimea is not worth th B.S. if Germany was able to push Russia back deeper into their territory at WW2 I do not see why NATO and America can't as well..especially with a land size of Crimea. Shit like that, which is a weakness to everyone. Russia is not invincible as you make it seem. Have you seen their location of bases worldwide compared to America's and NATO's? Their literally surrounded.
 
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They got decimated at Leningrad and despite the Stalingrad victory they suffered more casualties than Germany. They also suffered more casualties than anyone else in ww2. And communism's influence is half of what it was back then.
And Russia won. They defeated the Germans (US swoops in late like they won the war).

Plus you factor in nukes. It's a new ball game. Countries with nukes don't get invaded.
 
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Causing massive casualties, which can lead to public pressurre on Putin to pull back and make them realize Crimea is not worth th B.S. if Germany was able to push Russia back deeper into their territory at WW2 I do not see why NATO and America can't as well..especially with a land size of Crimea. Shit like that, which is a weakness to everyone. Russia is not invincible as you make it seem. Have you seen their location of bases worldwide compared to America's and NATO's? Their literally surrounded.
There is no will for a war with the Europeans. They have no motive to risk millions of lives over Crimea. Germany has already backed off previous threats and are now saying it's not a good idea to exclude Russia from the G8! Why? Because Germany has extensive trade ties with Moscow, importing 40% of its natural gas and 33% of its crude oil from Russia. An all-out confrontation with Russia would threaten not only Germany's extensive interests in Russia, but would also jeopardize its business operations throughout Eastern Europe. Russia supplies over 30% of all of Europe's gas.

Only Poland has been serious in defending Ukraine, which in any normal society it would be astounding for Poles to denounce Russia in favor of the Ukrainian fascists given what Ukrainian fascists did to Poles while Nazi Germany occupied the area.

Crimea means nothing to Europeans. It only means something to Russia since Crimea we all know is a Russian speaking area that hosts the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet and was apart of Russia for hundreds of years. They voted to join Russia once again.
 
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You fuck with Russia, you fuck with China. Both countries have nukes. Both countries have a history of banging it out. I can assure everyone, the US does NOT want it Russia.
Lol that basically sums it up. It's not even about right or wrong it's just a fact. It's a different ball game than Iraq, Afghanistan.
 
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And Russia won. They defeated the Germans (US swoops in late like they won the war).

Plus you factor in nukes. It's a new ball game. Countries with nukes don't get invaded.
The soviets suffered 3x the casualties as the Nazis and they weren't against half the world. If it had strictly been a war between Germany and the USSR, Germany would have won. Yes, Stalingrad was the turning point of the war but you act like Hitler didn't have half his resources abroad.

Also in the event a battle was lost with Stalin's military commanders at the helm he probably would've killed them all. Then it would have been victory after victory for the Nazis til they made Moscow look like St. Petersburg.

If Germany went to war with the USSR and not the WHOLE world they would have taken it.
 
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The soviets suffered 3x the casualties as the Nazis and they weren't against half the world. If it had strictly been a war between Germany and the USSR, Germany would have won. Yes, Stalingrad was the turning point of the war but you act like Hitler didn't have half his resources abroad.

Also in the event a battle was lost with Stalin's military commanders at the helm he probably would've killed them all. Then it would have been victory after victory for the Nazis til they made Moscow look like St. Petersburg.

If Germany went to war with the USSR and not the WHOLE world they would have taken it.
Of course Russia suffered more casualties than Germany as Germany's military was far more advanced at that time, hell, the Soviets didn't even have enough rifles for their soldiers and soldiers would have to go onto the battlefield empty hand and try to find a rifle on dead bodies. But despite all the causalities they never let up and continued till the end.

Regardless, this is besides the point. There is no Hitler army advancing and Russia has nukes.
 
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What's more embarassing, is the rest of Europe. For fucks sake, stop assuming that America needs to lead the way and hold your hands to make shit happen. Great Britain and France need to help with boots in the ground, if they want to get Putin's attention. Poland as well, hell...it is in THEIR backyard afterall.
Its because we are still Britainnia's lil puppet, do what the mob say do right...

It would have been nice if we had really won the Revolutionary War *shrugs* but we didn't
 
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Causing massive casualties, which can lead to public pressurre on Putin to pull back and make them realize Crimea is not worth th B.S. if Germany was able to push Russia back deeper into their territory at WW2 I do not see why NATO and America can't as well..especially with a land size of Crimea. Shit like that, which is a weakness to everyone. Russia is not invincible as you make it seem. Have you seen their location of bases worldwide compared to America's and NATO's? Their literally surrounded.

Why would you want to attack them, mass murder people because Putin might subdue to public pressure just for a piece of land very few people care about?
Really?

I don't think I know even one European who considers Ukraine a European country, let alone the Crimea.
 
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In the wake of Crimea's independence referendum, Hillary Clinton says Russian President Putin is a "new Hitler." Zbigniew Brezezinski, former National Security Advisor agrees, calling Putin not just another Hitler, but also a thug, a menace, a Mafia gangster, and a Mussolini. The Western mainstream media echoes this childish name-calling.

Why is the whole Western foreign policy establishment so afraid of Putin?

Because Putin is standing up against Western aggression – not only in Ukraine, but also in Syria and Iran. Ongoing Western attempts to destabilize these and other countries are just the most recent examples of a decades-old pattern of aggression. The long-term goal: Total destruction of traditional nations and values, and the creation of a New World Order global dictatorship.

Since the 1953 CIA-MI6 coup in Iran, the West has been using the same formula to overthrow legitimate but uncooperative leaders: First, sabotage the country's economy. Then bribe corrupt military officers and thugs and pay rent-a-mobs to create chaos in the streets. Next (this step is optional) incite violence by paying snipers to fire into crowds – and maybe set off some bombs. Finally, send the corrupt military units and gangsters to overthrow the target nation's legitimate leader, murder or imprison his supporters, install a Western puppet in his place – and announce that "order has been restored."

The CIA did it to Iran's democratically-elected Prime Minister Mossadegh in 1953, to Indonesia's President Sukarno in 1965, and to Chile's Prime Minister Allende on September 11th, 1973. They did the same thing to Ukraine's legitimate president, Viktor Yanukovych, a few weeks ago. Neocon regime-change apparatchik Victoria Nuland (The assistant US secretary of state,) got caught admitting that the US had spent five billion dollars to overthrow Ukraine's democratically-elected government; and EU Foreign Affairs Chief Catherine Ashton was heard on tape discussing the "news" that the Maidan Square snipers were part of the US-sponsored coup.

The people of Ukraine should be worried. US-sponsored coups can turn very bloody very quickly.

The CIA's 1965 Indonesia coup was one of the biggest holocausts in history. According to Princeton history professor Bradley Simpson, as cited by the Jakarta Globe: "The US and British governments did everything in their power to ensure that the Indonesian army would carry out the mass killings" of more than one million people following the coup against Sukarno. Most of the victims were tortured before they were murdered. The list of names of people to be tortured and murdered was provided by the CIA to their hired Indonesian thugs. While this was going on, five-year-old Barrack Obama was living in Indonesia with his stepfather Lolo Soetoro, who was working for the American mass murderers.

That's right: Obama's stepfather was a holocaust perpetrator.

In 1971, following the CIA's coup in Chile, the American stooge Pinochet murdered 3,000 people and tortured 30,000. These actions were fully supported by Pinochet's American sponsors, who trained and paid the thugs and torturers.

The hecatomb in Syria, too, is best understood as yet another US-sponsored coup attempt.

The NWO-driven Americans and their Western allies have killed tens of millions in these coups, interventions, destabilization campaigns, and undeclared wars. According to André Vltchek and Noam Chomsky's book On Western Terrorism, the total number killed is over 50 million since World War II. If we add to this the number of people tortured, brutalized, falsely imprisoned, forced to become refugees, or who had their lives ruined by Western terrorism, the number of victims reaches the hundreds of millions.

Today, the American terrorists and their NATO allies seem less interested in installing puppet governments than in reducing entire nations to chaos. The CIA-NATO coup against Gaddafi has destroyed Libya as a modern nation-state. Western-backed false-flag terror in Iraq is splitting up that country. Syria is being decimated by a Western-backed attempt to overthrow Assad. Venezuela, too, is being destabilized by a CIA-backed coup effort.

In short, the New World Order – a shadowy group of global banking oligarchs bent on establishing a one-world dictatorship – is trying to overthrow every leader on earth who resists. Russian President Putin is resisting. That is why the Western propaganda machine is calling him names.

It is worth noting that Russia and Iran – the two nations most successfully resisting NWO regime change – are doing so in the name of God.

According to Catholic intellectual E. Michael Jones, the 1979 Iranian Revolution was the opening salvo of a global backlash against secularism's destruction of traditional values. Like the 1980 election of Ronald Reagan (driven by Americans' disgust with the so-called sexual revolution) and the rise of Poland's Solidarity movement (which opposed communist atheism), the establishment of the Islamic Republic of Iran was a landmark event signaling an end to the 20th-century wave of militant secularism and atheism – and a revival of traditional religion.

President Putin enjoys overwhelming popularity in Russia due to his defense of traditional religious values. In his State of the Nation address last December, Putin said: "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values… Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan."

Putin's reference to Satanism was a pointed rebuke to the New World Order elites, who – though they push militant secularism on the societies they are trying to undermine – are closet Satanists. Anyone who doubts this should run the name "Lt. Col. Michael Aquino" through a search engine. Aquino, an avowed Satanist and credibly-accused mass child abuser, was rewarded for his crimes against children with an appointment as Chief of Psychological Warfare for the US military. (For background on the satanic international banking elite, and its near-total control of Western institutions, read Nick Bryant's book The Franklin Scandal alongside the work of Canadian scholar Henry Makow.)

The shock troops of the NWO's war against religion and tradition (and Russia and Iran) are the neoconservatives. Operation Gladio terrorist Michael Ledeen explains: "Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace ... We must destroy them to advance our historic mission."

Putin is stopping New World Order "creative destruction" in Syria and Ukraine. He is part of a growing coalition opposing the NWO – not just religious traditionalists, but also progressive anti-globalization forces, including Hugo Chavez inspired anti-imperialists in Latin America.

We are facing an epic struggle between those who espouse sacred values such as justice and decency versus those who wish to destroy all values.

God bless President Putin, who is putting the fear of God into the New World Order.





For more info on the genocide of 1965 in Indonesia watch the documentary The Act of Killing

http://theactofkilling.com/

Where instead of interviewing and following the surviving victims, they interview and follow the murderers who never got prosecuted, most of them still in power and are telling about the murders with full pride.

Probably one of the most disturbed/mind blowing documentaries I've ever seen.
 
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On a more serious note. Why do people even want to see a war started against Russia?
I dont want to go to war with russia, that is not a good strategy. For every nuke america has, russia has two that they bought off the black market. Look at all the movies. If a movie has bombs in it then it probably has russians in it too, coincidence? No. Remember that movie mission to mars? Yea, its about space and nasa and a space shut'lle, but hey look, in walks a important russian guy. So far so good, he didnt shoot anybody. Hes sketchy but hes chillin, hes chillin, hes chillin, hes chilllllllin aaaaaaaand now theres a nuke floating around and its his. No stereotyping here just vodka accents ak-47s and fuzzy hats? See what i mean? All of it transcends from the notion of ignorance of his highly scrutinized and to be frank, perculiar subject...

NOW you all understand what namo meant about the "jews in the media" subject.