9/11

[Foul Mouth]

not too mention the "terrorist attack" insurance policy that was taken out weeks prior on the buildings that required millions of dollars in maintenance

i doubt there was a "terrorist attack" insurance policy purchased before the attacks. prior to the attacks, there was no "terrorism exclusion" in a policy. meaning a terrorist attack wasnt excluded from coverage. after the attacks, shit changed. now when you get a policy, you can choose to pay additional premium for "act of terrorism" coverage, or opt to have it excluded from your policy.

the best example for comparison is Asbestos. back in the day, there was no "Asbestos exclusion" or any wording in a policy saying they would not cover asbestos. thats because that typa shit wasnt on the radar of carriers. when asbestos started reeking havoc, and thousands upon thousands of claims were filed, carriers were brought down to their knees. Lloyds of London, who have been around for thousands of years, almost crumbled because of asbestos claims. Warren Buffett pretty much saved them. now there is an asbestos exclusion in policies.

same goes for mold. mold was never excluded from policies. now, since the out break of mold related claims, you would have to buy a pollution policy if you wanted to be covered for any mold claims.

they didnt buy "terrorist attack" insurance. in theory, terrorist attack claims would have been covered regardless back then.

 

[SC_408]

not to derail the thread but what we were told vs the truth about those bolts are 2 different things.

i happen to personally know one of the structural engineers who has been working on that project & that was not due to faulty bolts, it was due to faulty torque specs on them, thus the contractor who installed them tightened them too much & they broke.


&.... they were NOT REPLACED.

They created a housing around them to keep them in place.

That bridge will FAIL during an earthquake, mark my words & bring this post back up when it happens. Because its not a matter of if, it is WHEN.

Fuck going on a bridge lol. Cool to look at and shit, but I would be nervous as hell having to take the bay bridge or golden gate everday.

 

[Foul Mouth]

i happen to personally know one of the structural engineers who has been working on that project & that was not due to faulty bolts, it was due to faulty torque specs on them, thus the contractor who installed them tightened them too much & they broke.

word. i also read/heard that, and it makes sence. thats the manufacturers fuck up. none the less, human error fucks shit up sometimes, no matter how massive of a project.

as to your brown man in an Idaho cave question; totally.

 

[HUERO''909]

Yeah, the military taking over Iraq in like 2 weeks isn't efficient at all. Get outta here with that. The government is very inefficient in some ways, of course, but the military and other branches like NSA, CIA, FBI are extremely efficient.

The military took over Iraq in two weeks? I guess my unit was deploying every year to Iraq from 03-10 just to go on vacation.

 

[REACHTMO]

so dont drive on that bridge or what? Ive been avoiding it...

 

[HUERO''909]

the only branch of the government that is efficient is the military inlcuding CIA, NSA and more so to the random letters that we know nothing about that conduct black ops...government is very efficient, and the fact you think they are inefficient means they are doing it right

LOL @ you talking about black ops...i'll believe the government can pull something like this off and keep their shit together when they fix my jump status back pay from like a year ago, lol.

 

[vinylfiend]

:classic:

 

[short]

why did 3000 innocent americans have to die for the bush/chaney war machine

 

[Coach E. No]

The military took over Iraq in two weeks? I guess my unit was deploying every year to Iraq from 03-10 just to go on vacation.

I figured someone was going to say that sooner or later. Was the country not taken over super fast? Units weren't being sent over there for the last 10 years to take the country over, it was to rebuild a dilapidated country. We can't just bomb the piss out of a country, oust it's leader, then leave. People should already be pissed about what happened and the lack of evidence of WMD's, but if we just left after dominating Iraq, even more people would be pissed.

 

[nightstalka]

why did 3000 innocent americans have to die for the bush/chaney war machine

why? thats insignificant amount of no name ppl for them + reason for u.s. to get more money.

 

[S.SAVAGE]

90s babies need not apply



"I AINT GETTIN MY LEG BLOWN OFF /WHILE BUSH PUNK ASS ON TV PLAYIN GOLF!"

 

[Coach E. No]

do you think it is too far fetched that a dude living in a cave masterminded that shit? he didnt intend to kill that many people. im sure the intention was to kill who ever was on those planes and what ever floors of the buildings that were hit. i doubt the crumbling of the buildings were planned. if the buildings didnt crumble, and only the planes/building floor people died, that would have sent a big message to the US. thats all that woulda been needed in the eyes of those types of dudes. i seriously doubt the engineers who did those buildings took into consideration the type of damage that those planes did. they couldnt have taken that type of shit into consideration.

the engineer of the bay bridge fucked up and authorized use of some bull shit bolts that ended up breaking a couple months back, right before the bridge was suppose to officially open. that was in the 2000's. when were the towers built? mind you, the whole point of the bay bridge project was so it can withstand an earthquake.

that part of the world aint like here where they have all the luxeries we have. they have learned to adapt with out what we feel we need to make shit happen. im sure a white man in a Montana cave couldnt pull that shit off cus a white man in a Montana cave was born into a different world with way less limitations.

how many US soldiers died in Afghanistan? those are cave people breh.

You're speaking mostly in what if's and speculation so I won't attempt to answer all of that. What I'm saying is, the whole story may be believable to some, but it's ridiculous IMO. In terms of "cave people" being responsible for the amount of deaths in Afghanistan, I don't think that is relative to the story. What I was saying is, the grandiose network of terrorism with Bin Laden at the helm from a cave is the part that's not believable to me. There could easily be numerous acts of terrorism, but they make it seem like Bin Laden is directly responsible for all of it which I think is totally b.s. The amount of casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan is as much a product of civilians in those countries probably tired of a western country taking them over (because that's at least what it looks like to them).

 

[HUERO''909]

I figured someone was going to say that sooner or later. Was the country not taken over super fast? Units weren't being sent over there for the last 10 years to take the country over, it was to rebuild a dilapidated country. We can't just bomb the piss out of a country, oust it's leader, then leave. People should already be pissed about what happened and the lack of evidence of WMD's, but if we just left after dominating Iraq, even more people would be pissed.

so after the initial invasion it was just a 'rebuilding' mission? haha..the invasion wasn't shit compared to the years from 04-08. Entire cities and provinces with no go areas controlled by Sunni and Shia insurgents and death squads that were getting cleared out...Fallujah, Ramadi, Sadr City, Mosul, Tal Afar, Baqubah, etc. In any case, ol 3/75 wasn't rebuilding shit...I know that much, lol.

 

[Coach E. No]

more or less that's what it is isn't it? Can't make an omelet without breaking an egg though? What I'm saying is, if the United States wanted to takeover the country, it essentially was done quickly. There of course would be ongoing resistance that would take time. They took it over as much as they could without other countries jumping in an saying we went overboard. That's a fine line to walk.

 

[N9ne Livez]

Wasn't intended to make anyone mad. Yet at the same time, if you bought in to the whole "dude living in a cave, controlling a network of terrorists to mount a massive attack on the US and take thousands of lives" story then you're not too bright either.

You do realise this dude living in a cave was part of one of the richest families on the planet right??

 

[Coach E. No]

Regardless. It doesn't matter if it's Steve Jobs if is living in a cave in one of the most remote parts of the world. This isn't San Quentin where fools are passing the wire. You're talking about running a worldwide terrorist faction and taking on the most powerful country in the world.

 

[NAMO]

I just got one question for all of you..

AVE YOU FORGAAAATN??

 

[Foul Mouth]

You're talking about running a worldwide terrorist faction and taking on the most powerful country in the world.

dude didnt build an army to invade the US. what he did wasnt complex at all. he didnt need jets, tanks, guns, or hella soldiers. he needed a hand full of down to die dudes, some box cutters, some plane tickets and some time to plan. it was guerilla shit.

 

[Coach E. No]

Come on man. You know how hard it is to fly a plane that accurately? And I also refuse to believe that that many Americans on board those flights are that big of pussies that they couldn't take down a couple dudes with box cutters. So Bin Laden recruited brilliant, down to die kamakazi pilots, taught them high level martial arts, snook them into the U.S. with a basic plan drawn on a napkin, took out 2 of the best known buildings in the world, not to mention the Pentagon, from a cave in Afghanistan. Makes perfect sense.

 

[NAMO]

Come on man. You know how hard it is to fly a plane that accurately?

What.. Pilots learn to fly, mate.

And I also refuse to believe that that many Americans on board those flights are that big of pussies that they couldn't take down a couple dudes with box cutters.

Being American doesn't automatically make you tough.

So Bin Laden recruited brilliant, down to die kamakazi pilots, taught them high level martial arts, snook them into the U.S. with a basic plan drawn on a napkin, took out 2 of the best known buildings in the world, not to mention the Pentagon, from a cave in Afghanistan. Makes perfect sense.

Guerilla warfare tactics. You guys used similar tactics in the American war of Independance.