The Official Xbox Reveal Thread

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Rasan

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It's possible but it would be smart for them to remain the "anti Microsoft" for as long as possible.

Eventually everything will be digital though, there is no way around that. Maybe not entirely for this generation of consoles but soon after everything will be digital, that's the direction of the industry.
oh yeah brother no doubt. sony is going to play it cool and let xbox take the fall. then as titles come out they will pass the blame to the publishers of the game.
anybody who works at gamestop better take some community college courses asap and look for another job, I see them going out of business in 2-3 years.
 
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oh yeah brother no doubt. sony is going to play it cool and let xbox take the fall. then as titles come out they will pass the blame to the publishers of the game.
anybody who works at gamestop better take some community college courses asap and look for another job, I see them going out of business in 2-3 years.
Lol. Fuckers deserve it. I mean I buy alot of used shit over there, but damn I remember trying to trade in a fairly new game for the 360 (Forgot what it was) a few months after release and they only gave me like $8 bucks in store credit or some shit. But, if they go out of business, I can't wait for the clearance sales lol
 
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She made a decent arguement about gamestop being a big reason for a lot of these changes. In that they give you a few bucks for a game and sell that game at near full retail while keeping 100% of the profit. Many games don't make money, many lose money and really only the huge blockbuster type games (madden, cod and the likes) make good profit, but many others are hurting /struggling and so there is a big shift in gaming developers now making games for phones/tablets since they are so profitable. Thus by limiting trading / selling games to gamestop and the likes more money goes back to the publishers thus more/better future games.

This was her logic and argument, mind you. I whole heartedly disagreed, but was an interesting perspective.
 

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Lol. Fuckers deserve it. I mean I buy alot of used shit over there, but damn I remember trying to trade in a fairly new game for the 360 (Forgot what it was) a few months after release and they only gave me like $8 bucks in store credit or some shit. But, if they go out of business, I can't wait for the clearance sales lol
8 bucks so they can flip it and sell it for 40? wtf
no wonder publishers are pissed.
yeah they done bro. you will remember me saying this 3 years from now.
you gonna take that new watchdogs to your mans house, he gonna pop it in. its gonna say sorry you do not own this game. LOL!
im already mentally preparing for this, the end of gaming that we have been used to since the NES.
 
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Lol. Fuckers deserve it. I mean I buy alot of used shit over there, but damn I remember trying to trade in a fairly new game for the 360 (Forgot what it was) a few months after release and they only gave me like $8 bucks in store credit or some shit. But, if they go out of business, I can't wait for the clearance sales lol
lol someone i know bought a game tried to return it 2days after the release and got offered $30 from gamestop
 
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I rarely shop at GameStop, because I think the stores suck for the most part. Sometimes you can get good deals on used games, but trading in games is a rip-off for the customer.

I didn't like Microsoft's policies with used games mostly on principle. Don't dictate what I can do with MY purchase.

Also, GameFly, while being kinda shitty as a rental service, is great for buying used games, especially when they have a sale. Not only are the discs is pretty good condition, the cases are in mint condition and contain any online passes or DLC codes that would have came with it if purchased brand new.
 

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Lol yea man think about it,..they were fucked even before the launch,there was a good strong chance they werent gonna sell alot of those shits,so they have to think of something to get the people to buy them pieces of shit!...and then later?......they are gonna fuck over everybody who buys them and not give a fuck about what people think,just like they said last week!...they have plans,and they r gonna go thru with them,they just need to find a way to get these illuminati contraptions into peoples home!
 
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Good for Microsoft then. Gaming needs good competition. If we only had one choice then it's unlikely that those policies would have been reversed, even temporarily. Still not getting an XB1 though. It's hard for me to trust that this reversal is permanent.
 

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Sorry but mom and pop gamestores are going to go away along with GameStop within the next 10 years IMO. This move by MS was only done with the knowledge that Sony was on board. You guys want Steam like sales? Guess what...you need the game companies to have any flexibility on prices which isn't going to happen while you cling to your vinyl records. This whole thing would have been a lot smoother if Sony just didn't pussy out at the last second and piss off A LOT of companies in the process. Instead Sony threw GameStop a lifesaver while Reddit circlejerked about how stupid MS was (nevermind how much reddit hates GameStop). The developers WANT to move towards a digital format so they can control the prices while at the same time having the majority of the profit go to them, not having some shit company like GameStop undercutting them constantly.

All this move by Sony did was make it HARDER for the small developers to make it in the game. This won't effect EA at all..which by the way only did away with the online passes because both MS and Sony were on board with this DRM issue. It wasn't because (as some said) they realized the consumer didn't like them. EA doesn't give a single fuck what reddit thinks or any of their customers, this has been proven. You know what else has been proven? Sony doesn't give a single fuck about you or anyone else either. It is fucking laughable that so many people on reddit seem to think that Sony is some fucking white knight here. No, Sony set back the utopian idea that reddit always wants (Steam like sales and digital downloads all the time but on consoles) about 6 years. You know why they did it? Not because of the consumer, but because they saw a way to get the leg up on MS after they fuckin' screwed the pooch with the PS3. PS3 is a great fuckin' console and the 360's were notoriously breaking..yet it took them until now to finally catch up with MS. Now was their time to fuck them back...and they did it at the expense of all the small gaming companies and made enemies with a lot of big ones. They have done a disservice to you guys as gamers. MS fucked up with the 'connect every 24 hours' bullshit, but MS was trying to move you to your precious Steam.

Instead, you get the same shit. $70 games, big publishers like EA making the majority and they don't give a shit about you, and the small developers struggling to make ends meet because they are losing money on manufacturing, shipping, GameStop, etc folding up because they can't pay their bills. Can't wait for the next reddit post to hit the front page where some major studio we all grew up with announces they are closing their doors.

But yeah....Fuck MS for trying to screw the consumer! Sony totally is looking out for us and has built a console FOR gamers! They totally didn't tell studios they were following suit with MS only to stab them in the back after MS announced and they saw the reaction.

Don't forget everyone.... Sony Releases New Stupid Piece Of Shit That Doesn't Fucking Work

Yeah, this is a long fucking rant. I'm just pissed because I am standing up for my friend who works for a major studio who got really fucked by Sony doing this. They had big hopes for the whole gaming experience to move towards what goes on with PC's while bringing more money for the studios instead of everyone else when the margins are already razor thin....then Sony fucked them. His company due to this essentially has severed a long long long term relationship they had with Sony.

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That's a BS rant because Sony has always support indie games and already shown they will continue to do so with the ps4.

Look, gamestop is a faggot everyone agrees but MS shot themselves in the foot by trying to impose restrictions that gamers simply didn't want to accept. Also, I have no sympathy for game publisher's losing money or whatever, it simply means they need to be more creative and innovative to generate more profit.

And its not like digital games don't already exist and will continue to exist. I've purchased and downloaded plenty of games digitally as I'm sure everyone else has, the point is having the option.
 
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That rant did make some sense, and I definitely see it from their point of view, but these faggots gotta understand, it's the consumer that's ALWAYS fucking right. We're the ones who are putting the money in their pockets. We are already having to pay 40-50 bucks a year on Live, and the BS map packs that they rip us off on. If they are bitching about how much profit they make, maybe they can start by looking at their overpaid ass CEO's and shit.
 

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GameStop is a faggot for sure...I have literally bought new games there, opened them and came back in the same day to the same store only to have the value dropped to 25-32 dollar range...i sell my games on craigslist now only losing about 5-10 dollars..unless its sold out everywhere than i can get full retail back