Canelo Vs Trout April 20th

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who you got?

  • trout by ko

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • canelo by ko

    Votes: 9 52.9%
  • trout by decision

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • canelo by decision

    Votes: 5 29.4%

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Trout fights nothing like Rigondeaux nor is his skill level even remotely close so not sure what Donaire has anything to do it. Canelo is a boxer puncher he didn't need to cut off the ring as mostly he tried to set up his shots or counter.
You act like cutting off the ring is rocket science. Fire a straight punch to the left and step to your right, or do the opposite. You will A. Land the punch or B. Cut your opponent off in the ring. It's not rocket science 206, if you are an elite fighter like they made Donaire out to be u should have not problem doing it. Canelo needs to up his work rate and work on his stamina.
 
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You act like its that easy to beat Rigondeaux. Cut off the ring, that's it! He's one of, if not the most gifted fighters in the entire sport. You don't win 400 fights unless you're extremely skilled. Rigondeaux is simply better than Donaire.
How many times have c-level fighters put Rigondeaux on his ass and hurt him? Stop overrating Rigondeaux because he gave a boxing lesson to Donaire the HBO hype job. Does Rigondeaux have great boxing skill yes he does, but he also has a shakey ass chin. Let's just faces facts Donaire is just not all that good he's more hype then skill.

I want to see Canelo vs Mayweather, Cotto, Lara, Kirkland, or Martinez. If he does work on his stamina the big dogs will eat him up.
 
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Coach E. No

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The idea of cutting off the ring is not rocket science, but you'd be surprised how many people struggle with this concept. I teach everyone I train with the art of boxing to get away and cutting off the ring if they have their man hurt. But even top level pro's suck at cutting off the ring. There are subtle things you can do to exercise ring generalship. It doesn't always take blazing speed to do so. See BHOP and Rigo for the perfect example of that.
 
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Coach E. No

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I got in to this debate today with Ron Borges on Twitter. He's saying Canelo isn't a star. I say he is. I know there's probably too many "fans" to have a legit convo on this but I'd like to hear what y'all think
 
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i would like to see canelo vs martinez.
canelo will probably fight mayweather next 2014 cinco de mayo weekend. so they're each gonna have to fight someone in between. after garcia gets his little win this weekend he can be a perfect easy fight for floyd this fall/winter.

martinez would ruin all these plans by beating canelo (which is very possible)...so what they should do is have canelo and martinez fight and have chavez jr and sr come out and interfere. everyone will think they're comng for revenge against martinez but instead they'll distract the ref while canelos trainer will turn on him and try to hit him with the ring bell. but then out of nowhere roger mayweather comes out and knocks out canelos trainer then hits martinez with the ring bell. ref turns around and martinez is ko'd so canelo gets the win. when mario lopez interviews roger asking him why he did that roger will talk shit about floyd jr and sr and announce he's going to train canelo for the big fight against his nephew next may. then canelo in his broken english and roger in his history of crack abuse slur will together yell booker t style: "floyd, we coming for you nigguh!" they drop the mic, sock mario lopez, then dead prez hip hip instrumental comes on and they walk off to a mixture of cheers and boos. now THATS how you build up for an epic fight. showtime will need to hire jim lampley to call this fight and really make it work though.
 
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How many times have c-level fighters put Rigondeaux on his ass and hurt him? Stop overrating Rigondeaux because he gave a boxing lesson to Donaire the HBO hype job. Does Rigondeaux have great boxing skill yes he does, but he also has a shakey ass chin. Let's just faces facts Donaire is just not all that good he's more hype then skill.
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Rigondeaux was down once in his career in a fight he dominated. Getting knocked doesn't mean a whole lot, hell Andre Ward was knocked down and badly hurt by a journeyman not long before the super six and look at him now. He took Donaires shots which says something. He was knocked down by Donaire coming out of a clinch and obviously expected the ref to break. He then proceeded to win the rest of the round with ease. Anytime Donaire landed a big shot Rigondeaux would immediately answer with a big shot or two of his own. He clearly answered any questions regarding his chin.

Besides, Rigo's chin has nothing to do with cutting off the ring. Anytime Donaire got close Rigo would pop him in the face and then use lateral movement. It's not that simple. Rigo is a phenomenal athlete.
 
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the commentating on saturday was a straight joke...if you werent watching the fight and just listening to al bernstein you woulda thought trout was whoopin on canelo.

talking about ''he has canelo against the ropes!''...canelo was on the ropes cause he was tired and still managed to block or duck just about anything trout threw at him.he was against the ropes because he wanted to be against the ropes not because trout cornered him there...smh..guess they're instructed to make a fight more exciting then what it really is.
 
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The idea of cutting off the ring is not rocket science, but you'd be surprised how many people struggle with this concept. I teach everyone I train with the art of boxing to get away and cutting off the ring if they have their man hurt. But even top level pro's suck at cutting off the ring. There are subtle things you can do to exercise ring generalship. It doesn't always take blazing speed to do so. See BHOP and Rigo for the perfect example of that.
If a boxer struggles to cut off the ring you are not a P4P/elite fighter period point blank. We are not talk about some guy you train off the street. We are talking about a so-called elite fighter Donaire who HBO hyped up calling him a Master boxer, but yet this guy can't even cut off the damn ring to get off his offense. My point is if u are hyped up to be a P4P elite boxer you better damn well have the skills to back up the hype other then a left hook and a size advantage over most guys u fight.

Canelo is not ready for Mayweather yet. I see him fighting Cotto next for his 1st PPB.
 
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The idea of cutting off the ring is not rocket science, but you'd be surprised how many people struggle with this concept. I teach everyone I train with the art of boxing to get away and cutting off the ring if they have their man hurt. But even top level pro's suck at cutting off the ring. There are subtle things you can do to exercise ring generalship. It doesn't always take blazing speed to do so. See BHOP and Rigo for the perfect example of that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but to effectively cut off the ring you have to peruse at an angle and usually conventional fighters like to move away towards their left side and have the jab cover their tracks...when the fighter move towards the right...the power side is where they become awkward...so if your stalking a fighter follow outside of his jab...move your head...be prepared for a left hook...he will have to come back towards his left because it is extremely difficult to move right without stopping to throw a punch. Nonito was facing a southpaw so the movement is the opposite and you are having to move towards the fighter's left side as you move right and that becomes a problem for a conventional fighter with bad or sloppy footwork. That's my experience hope it made since.
 

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the commentating on saturday was a straight joke...if you werent watching the fight and just listening to al bernstein you woulda thought trout was whoopin on canelo.

talking about ''he has canelo against the ropes!''...canelo was on the ropes cause he was tired and still managed to block or duck just about anything trout threw at him.he was against the ropes because he wanted to be against the ropes not because trout cornered him there...smh..guess they're instructed to make a fight more exciting then what it really is.
Naw I disagree. Bernstein is one of the best goin and was calling the fight how it was goin. Trout outboxed and out worked Canelo. All the commentators basically had about a point apart. They were shocked at the scorecards. Bernstein never said Trout won but that it was very close and that Trout was very active and waas the busier fighter in which he was. Got Em!!
 
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The way the fight was scored is correct if you ask me. this isn't ametuer boxing where we score points for connections. all the judges care about is clean, strong, accurate punches. That's it. Sometimes they see them, sometimes they don't. With that being said, Trout's punches didn't do shit, while Canelo's were on point and even scored a knockdown. Trout is what i think a very smart fighter and did throw Canelo off his gameplan, but in return suffered by not connecting or damaging Canelo with any of his punches. That's prize fighting for ya, not olympic boxing.
 
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