Sicc.opinions
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Man people gonna do what they want anyways...You either gonna act like it's not happening...or acknowledge it...
Gays want some rights...whoopty fucking doo...
we're not in the midevil times...let them live comfortable too...it's more uncivilized to deny them that opportunity...
society in aMurica needs to just grow up already and move on to bigger and more important issues...
we Americans waste our time or get derailed on the stupidest shit...while there's more pressing issues at hand...
Gays want some rights...whoopty fucking doo...
we're not in the midevil times...let them live comfortable too...it's more uncivilized to deny them that opportunity...
society in aMurica needs to just grow up already and move on to bigger and more important issues...
we Americans waste our time or get derailed on the stupidest shit...while there's more pressing issues at hand...
I'd vote for gay marriage right now on one condition:
I never have to see two gay guys kissing or acting super duper fruity in public again.
Yes, I'm closed minded, I dont care if you get married and butt fuck eachother every night two gay guy's kissing and acting super fruity in public makes my skin crawl.
I never have to see two gay guys kissing or acting super duper fruity in public again.
Yes, I'm closed minded, I dont care if you get married and butt fuck eachother every night two gay guy's kissing and acting super fruity in public makes my skin crawl.
One of my best friends from school turned out to be gay. He was always a hard ass back in the day. Strongest in the class, good in sports. Had girlfriends. One night, a couple years after high school, him and some friends picked me up to go to a bar. He then told me there, that he was gay. Apparently I had a very strange look on my face, cause it surprised the fuck out of me, and I was a big I hate fags guy in high school. But yeah, I wasn't really interested in what he does in his bedroom before, so why would I change how I look at him or treat him after he told me...
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I realize that most everything I'm about to say will be panned but figured I'd throw in my two cents even though it will be scoffed at by some I'm sure.
I fully believe that God created the woman for man as his helped, like what is described in Adam and Eve in Genesis here:
"18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.
But for Adam no suitable helper was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man.”
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh." (I added the bold to the text)
If you at all subscribe to the belief that God is real and God created the human race, you can see where the divide on the subject comes from. Yes, I would agree that marriage predates Abraham, considering these were the first 2 people created according to the Bible. What God considered a "suitable helper" for Adam was a woman. I imagine the land had to be taken care of among other things and obviously for having children, and a woman was created to fill that role.
Numerous times throughout the Bible, it is very clear about God being unhappy or even upset about sexual immoral acts, including homosexuality. Do I condemn a gay person for their choices? The answer is, no more than I condemn straight people for their sexually immoral acts. I've been with a lot of women in the past and it was something I was personally remorseful for and I needed forgiveness for those sins just like any sinner would. Gay people are in need of forgiveness no more than anyone else.
As far as marriage, in my personal belief, gay people cannot be "married" as defined by God's definition of holy matrimony in the Bible. That is reserved for a man and a woman. Gay people should be allowed by the government if that is decided for civil unions for tax purposes and all that though I don't agree with that lifestyle one bit.
I also do not believe they should adopt. Granted, there are millions of unfit parents out there, I think there are a number of reasons why the birth parents or the legitimate family of the child should raise them but that's a long long conversation in itself
I fully believe that God created the woman for man as his helped, like what is described in Adam and Eve in Genesis here:
"18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.
But for Adam no suitable helper was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man.”
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh." (I added the bold to the text)
If you at all subscribe to the belief that God is real and God created the human race, you can see where the divide on the subject comes from. Yes, I would agree that marriage predates Abraham, considering these were the first 2 people created according to the Bible. What God considered a "suitable helper" for Adam was a woman. I imagine the land had to be taken care of among other things and obviously for having children, and a woman was created to fill that role.
Numerous times throughout the Bible, it is very clear about God being unhappy or even upset about sexual immoral acts, including homosexuality. Do I condemn a gay person for their choices? The answer is, no more than I condemn straight people for their sexually immoral acts. I've been with a lot of women in the past and it was something I was personally remorseful for and I needed forgiveness for those sins just like any sinner would. Gay people are in need of forgiveness no more than anyone else.
As far as marriage, in my personal belief, gay people cannot be "married" as defined by God's definition of holy matrimony in the Bible. That is reserved for a man and a woman. Gay people should be allowed by the government if that is decided for civil unions for tax purposes and all that though I don't agree with that lifestyle one bit.
I also do not believe they should adopt. Granted, there are millions of unfit parents out there, I think there are a number of reasons why the birth parents or the legitimate family of the child should raise them but that's a long long conversation in itself
And this is the main problem. I would never purposely disrespect your beliefs but I believe that far too much evil and intolerance can be traced directly to religion and, more directly, the bible. I personally do not believe in god or practice any religion, which I believe makes me a better person. Not better than anyone else, just a better me.
Yes, if you take the bibles account of things then I can see why you would be anti alot of things, but maybe we should put the bible in the perspective of what it is and was, ancient propaganda created to control the people of its time.
Yes, if you take the bibles account of things then I can see why you would be anti alot of things, but maybe we should put the bible in the perspective of what it is and was, ancient propaganda created to control the people of its time.
With all due respect, I think that is one of many popular but unfounded beliefs. Yes, I'm aware that the crusades happened and yes, there were many wars in the Bible even. However, were the massive number of deaths attributed to the holocaust due to religion? What about Saddam Hussein killing his own people, or the mass genocides of Rwanda? Those had nothing to do with religion or in some cases were in spite of the religious beliefs of those being slaughtered. Were the teachings of Christ or the letters to the churches that Paul wrote in promoting violence? They were preaching love and uniting people, whether Jew or Gentile, man or woman.
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The problem with religion is, that it is man made. Who actually lives according to what Jesus or Mohammed taught?
The Catholic church goes against everything Jesus ever taught! I do not believe in a god. I believe in Jesus the same as I believe in for example Ghandi.
And if you truly belief in jesus, you would not have any problem with Homosexuals...
The Catholic church goes against everything Jesus ever taught! I do not believe in a god. I believe in Jesus the same as I believe in for example Ghandi.
And if you truly belief in jesus, you would not have any problem with Homosexuals...
Yes, but does all of the atrocities done outside of religion take away what was done BY religion. Listen, I have studied religion my entire life. I have good friends from many religions, Muslim to LDS. I could literally take another 50 pages arguing theology and religion with you but it would not make a difference because religion has taught you to be unwavering in your faith. It has been said that there is no room for logic in religion, which I believe. As for the "teachings" of "christ", I would only remind you that there is ZERO, I repeat, ZERO evidence that a man named Jesus Christ ever even existed during the time that he supposedly did.
Now, none of that has anything to do with the topic, other than to show that the religious are so stuck to their beliefs, arcane and ancient as they are, to get with the fucking times and be just a bit more tolerant of others. You say do this or go to hell, I simply say go to hell.
Now, none of that has anything to do with the topic, other than to show that the religious are so stuck to their beliefs, arcane and ancient as they are, to get with the fucking times and be just a bit more tolerant of others. You say do this or go to hell, I simply say go to hell.
