are you happy with where rap music is today

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Tooper

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i can't say that i am.

i'm more cautious of where i spend my money on albums.it's like artsts are trying to be more open to broader audiences when their old shit was fine how it was?

whuts wrong with sticking to your hardcore fans?

if you gamble with the music those same fans there in the begining won't be there for your next release.

to name a few:

tottally insane i bought their new one and it was'nt cuttin it they tottally flipped they're styles and beats.

ugk went mainstream and made everything pimp on their last one (dirty money) just like the jay z song they did with him.it was cool but not classic like riden dirty.

e-40 grit and grind did'nt cut it for me if his next one sounds like that i'm not going back to him and i have damn near everything he droped!

i'll get the 40 and too short group album though cause i have faith in that one to get back to the roots.

and whut happened to x-raided?

sac a indo was'nt cuttin it.

oh and dub c?

he went from the shadiest one to ghetto heismen?

was'nt feelin that.
 
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SlangsumLangsam

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haha, rap music 2day is getting more mainstream because they want to make tha skrill that they rap about, and u cant do it in tha underground game, unless ur slanging yola too, so the rappers are going more mainstream and becoming more appealing to the MTV viewers and shit

peaaaaaaace
 
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the mainstream is garbage and the underground wanna do whut they're doin.

you can flex more music for general audiences but don't forget about your core fan base.

thats how i feel.
 
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sav-man

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If you're talking underground Rap, I think it's basically as good as it's been before, if not better, and that's mainly what I listen to now (the Bay, Sacramento and Texas are probably my favorite regions overall). Only real problem is that there's more shit to choose from than there used to be, so you have to be a little more careful, but you won't get burned as often as you do with mainstream rap.

As for mainstream-type shit, the only "popular" rapper that I really feel much anymore is Nas--GOD'S SON wasn't up to the level of STILLMATIC or THE LOST TAPES, but there were some cuts on there. Otherwise, there's not much to hang your hat on, IMHO. PEACE!
 
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Anybody that's stayed the same since the beginning (or transformed, but came back) is cool.
California's underground has become flooded and I don't know which up-and-comer to spend my money on, so I spend my money on none. I wouldn't even burn their shit because it all seems the same. Somebody claims to bring something different, but it's the same. What happened to rappers like X-Raided? They seem to have vanished.
Out of all places, I like the way Queens Bridge affiliates do it. Nas, Mobb Deep, Cormega, Bravehearts, Lake Lucciano, Nature, Infamous Mobb, Capone-N-Noreaga... The Alchemist.
 
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MaddDogg

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Tooper:
Ive found out a few things about rap music in the last 2 years:

1. LISTEN TO A CD BEFORE YOU BUY. Norther-Ridaz.com lets you do it for bay shit. Helps a lot.

2. ONLY TRUST SIGNATURE ARTISTS- If your buying a product from an artist you already like, it should be pretty good. EXCEPTIONS: Stale artists: artists that havent dropped new material in several years. Label Changes: Signature artists releasing CDs on labels known to put out shotty material or that the artist no longer works with.

3. MOST OLD RAPPERS NEED TO GET OUT THE GAME- Newer rappers like Cosmo, Riddla, Big Rich, Willie Henn, J Bailey, Toriano, Balance, Locksmith, Zacwood, etc. are putting out quality music that really outshines the washed up 30plus rappers still trying to make music that sounds like its from 10 years ago.

4. DONT TRUST ANY REVIEWS ON THE BOARD, EXCEPT FOR MINE. Everyone's a critic, but some people step on the board and give great reviews of an album to a) ride dick b) promote the artist c) just love the artist and seriously think they cant do any harm. I think that I give excellent reviews though. Other people that give pretty quality reviews are PSILO707, Tim.C does pretty good and Blutarski. To give you an idea of what I gave some CDs here:
Nas-Godson: 8.5/10
Mac Dre-Thizzle Washington-6/10
Mac Mall-Mackin Speaks Louder than Words-9/10
Techn9ne-Absolute Power-10/10
Done Deal-Runs in the Fam-9.5/10
Yukmouth-UGA-10/10
T-Nutty-Last of the Flowheikenz-7/10
Done Deal Party Mix-9.5/10
Damu and Mitchy Slick-Strong Armed Robbery 8/10
Mac Dre- City Slickers 5/10
Siccness Presents-Fuck Everybody-6/10
Million Dollar Dream-Green Eyes-8/10
Done Deal Presents: One MOE Reason-7.5/10
JT The Bigga Figga-Project Poetry-7/10

And I rate CDs a little different than others: 8.5 and up is an A album, 7.5-8.5 is a B, 6.5-7.5 is a C, 6-6.5 is a D, anything below 6 is an F.
 
Gemini

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I think any album whether it's mainstream or underground, it's dead in the water before it's release date. Far and between albums have a hype that live up to it, 9 outta 10, it falls short of anything, but a Classic.

Underground artist don't get it, if the mainstream is suffering sales, means the underground is fighting an up hill battle. It's a lose lose situation. Radio play doesn't mean anything anymore, it doesn't equal sales like it used to.

You sell one copy of your Cd to a car full of dudes and bet everybody in the car now owns it. And the thought of, "Oh, well it's still good promotion" is about as good as your pocket full of change with a hole in it. Shit's fucked up in every direction.

Yet, we still have the ones in denile that lable others as "haters", but fact of the matter is, rappers don't seem to want to accept constructive criticism
anymore.

Nobody is allowed to go against the grain and speak their true mind because automatically they are labled a "Hater". Hip Hop has lost it's touch with reality and rappers expect and bunch of "yes" men in their circle. And the majority of "fans" are in fact that, "yes men". They play an album and tell themselves, they need to spin it a few times to get used to it. If the shit sounded wack the first spin, that's pretty much what the reality is.

If your formula hasn't worked and it's crystal clear that gangsta rap has come and gone. It's about club joints now, and you still want to sit around and tell yourself that your plan will work after everybody is trying to hit that same target and failing. Maybe it's time to change the game plan and try a different approach, or quit.
 
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I hardly like anything new these days. Some shit is cool of course, but most of it, especially mainstream, is crap. All the beats and lyrics sound fucking gay IMHO. I can't stand these techno-trancey club beats. Yeah they bump, sound good in clubs and good for dancing, but bottomline is their still fucking gay. It's nothing I would bump in my car or home, I would be embarrased to. It's cool for the youngsters because their too young to comprehend deep lyrics and good to attract multiple cultures. I would say, back then, rap was more for the black community or atleast those who understood hood life, now it has expanded to attract everyone because mainstream rap is so colorful and about fame and glamour, including little kids with i-pods saying "yooooooou!" It's just light weight and highly weak, it don't have the punch and fierceness it once had. Rap back then created controversies, that's how powerful it was, now it's just on some silly shit.


I personally like that G-Funk/Mobb Funk sound the best, but it's hard to find these days. And NO I ain't neccessarily talking about that very oldschool G-Funk with a bunch of funk samples n shit. Piano, guitar, strings, real basslines, chords, worm leads, all that real sounding shit that's based off funk n jazz.

There ain't no funk or soul in todays Rap music. :( I seriously don't think youngsters these days can comprehend the importance of funk music, jazz elements, bluez and classical elements. Rap music is waaay too simple sounding these days, just turn on the Trance Gate along with a sawtooth wave and let it do the rhythm for you. WACK!
 
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this thread should be a poll and a vital.
No, I'm not happy with where rap music is today.
I feel bad for the good underground artists. Back when the bay was starting with short, 40, mac dre, cellski, 11/5, rbl, c-bo, lynch, etc good artists could be found and stood a chance to make money.

Now, with the internet and all the guys jumping in the game the real good quality artists are being lost in the mix. There have been a few artists that made me listen to their album more than once, but those artists are one out of every ten. 90% of the rap out there is crap, and they need to give it away free just to get people to hear it. That hurts the quality artists because when they are just starting they have to give thiers out free to gain any recognition and with all the other crap the good artist get lost in the shuffle. Beside the fact that the artist that is worth paying for loses money on the free promos.

There needs to be more unity between the good artists. If good artists could learn to work with each other it would leave the others in a pile. Then the pile of crappy artists would be forced to either get out or step they game up.
 
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Gemini said:
If your formula hasn't worked and it's crystal clear that gangsta rap has come and gone. It's about club joints now, and you still want to sit around and tell yourself that your plan will work after everybody is trying to hit that same target and failing. Maybe it's time to change the game plan and try a different approach, or quit.
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I gotta disagree to an extent....as a long time club DJ I'll be the first to tell you that I don't care HOW hot your shit is, I ain't gonna play it at the club until it's gained a buzz to where people know it. Club go-ers are SHEEP. If it's popular, they'll dance to it...I don't care if I played a new song by 50 Cent with Timbaland on the beat, if they haven't heard it the floor will clear. So people who make club joints to sell records are waisting their time unless they can GET that radio play or street buzz. Cause in the club no one really gives a shit.

For "underground" artists, it's better to stay true to what you do. Look at cats like Tech N9ne, ICP or even Nickatina for that matter. They get zero play in the clubs but still sell tons more than half the crap I get in my inbox daily about "Goin Dummy In Da Club"
 
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DJ Mark 7 said:
I gotta disagree to an extent....as a long time club DJ I'll be the first to tell you that I don't care HOW hot your shit is, I ain't gonna play it at the club until it's gained a buzz to where people know it. Club go-ers are SHEEP. If it's popular, they'll dance to it...I don't care if I played a new song by 50 Cent with Timbaland on the beat, if they haven't heard it the floor will clear. So people who make club joints to sell records are waisting their time unless they can GET that radio play or street buzz. Cause in the club no one really gives a shit.

For "underground" artists, it's better to stay true to what you do. Look at cats like Tech N9ne, ICP or even Nickatina for that matter. They get zero play in the clubs but still sell tons more than half the crap I get in my inbox daily about "Goin Dummy In Da Club"
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That's what I love about this whole thing and the well rounded people that know what they're talking about.

We all learn something new everyday and not at each others throats on who's right and wrong were it becomes a pissing contest. Thank you for enlighting me on this subject.
 
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