NCAA American Indian mascot ban will begin Feb. 1

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INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.


Other mascots in lower divisions: Catawba College (Indians), Midwestern State (Indians), Indiana University-Pennsylvania (Indians), Carthage College (Redmen), Chowan College (Braves), McMurry (Indians), Mississippi College (Choctaws), Newberry College (Indians), North Dakota (Fighting Sioux), Southeastern Oklahoma State (Savages)

The NCAA's executive committee decided this week the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools, committee chairman Walter Harrison said Friday.

Nicknames or mascots deemed "hostile or abusive" would not be allowed on team uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.

"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, Harrison said.

"What we are trying to say is that we find these mascots to be unacceptable for NCAA championship competition," he added.

At least 18 schools have mascots the NCAA deem "hostile or abusive," including Florida State's Seminoles and Illinois' Illini. The full list of schools was not immediately released.

Florida State President T.K. Wetherell blasted the NCAA and threatened legal action on Friday, the Tampa Tribune reported.

"Florida State University is stunned at the complete lack of appreciation for cultural diversity shown by the National Collegiate Athletic Association's executive committee. ... That the NCAA would now label our close bond with the Seminole Tribe of Florida as culturally 'hostile and abusive' is both outrageous and insulting," Wetherell said Friday in a statement.

The Seminole Tribe of Florida passed a resolution in June supporting the school's use of the nickname and tribal images. Seminole tribes in other states have disagreed with the Florida group.

According to the Tribune, the ruling likely won't affect Florida State's pregame football ritual in which a student dressed as Chief Osceola rides onto the field on a spotted horse and plants a flaming spear in the turf. Since the NCAA does not sponsor a Division I-A football tournament, it has no say in the matter. That control belongs to the Bowl Championship Series.

"I intend to pursue all legal avenues to ensure that this unacceptable decision is overturned, and that this university will forever be associated with the 'unconquered' spirit of the Seminole Tribe of Florida," Wetherell said.

Not all schools with Indian-related nicknames are on that list. NCAA officials said some schools using the Warrior nickname do not use Indian symbols and would not be affected.

North Carolina-Pembroke, which uses the nickname Braves, will not face sanctions. NCAA president Myles Brand explained said the school's student body has historically admitted a high percentage of American Indians and more than 20 percent of the students are American Indians.

Schools on the list could still appeal.

"I suspect that some of those would like to having a ruling on that," Brand said. "But unless there is a change before Feb. 1, they will have to abide by it."

Major college football teams also would not be subjected to the new rules because there is no NCAA Divsion I-A tournament or playoff.

Arkansas State University, whose teams are known as the Indians, said Friday that their use of the mascot is done with respect and the school's sports teams will continue to use it.


"It is our objective to represent Native Americans in a dignified and stately manner," ASU atheltic director Dean Lee said. "We believe that our use of the nickname 'Indians' and 'The Indian Family' as our mascot affords the Native American customs and history the fullest respect and integrity."



Vernon Bellecourt, president of the National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media, was pleased with the postseason ban but had hoped for even stronger action.

"We would have hoped the NCAA would have provided the moral leadership on this issue, but obviously they've chosen to only go halfway," said Bellecourt, a member of the Anishinabe-Ojibwe Nation in Minnesota.

The NCAA two years ago recommended that schools determine for themselves whether the Indian depictions were offensive.


At the University of North Dakota, where the Fighting Sioux nickname has come under fire, officials said they wanted to study the decision before commenting.

"We just don't have enough information to know exactly what it means," said Phil Harmeson, a senior associate to school president Charles Kupchella.

The NCAA plans to ban schools using Indian nicknames from hosting postseason events. Harrison said schools with such mascots that have already been selected as tournament sites would be asked to cover any offensive logos.

Such logos also would be prohibited at postseason games on cheerleader and band uniforms starting in 2008.

Among the schools to change nicknames in recent years over such concerns were St. John's (from Redmen to Red Storm) and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles).

Fourteen schools have removed all references to Native American culture or were deemed not to have references to Native American culture as part of their athletics programs: California State-Stanislaus, Lycoming College, Winona State University, Hawaii-Manoa, Eastern Connecticut State, East Stroudsburg, Husson College, Merrimack College, Southeast Missouri State, State University of West Georgia, Stonehill College, San Diego State, Wisconsin Lutheran College and the University of North Carolina-Pembroke.

The College of William and Mary has been given an extension to complete its self-study on the mascot issue.

Other measures approved this week include stronger penalties for schools that repeatedly fall below the NCAA's new academic cutline. Harrison said schools would receive a warning letter the first year; restrictions on scholarships, recruiting and playing time the second year; and a postseason ban the third year. If a school fails to meet the standard four consecutive years, all teams at that school would be ineligible for postseason play.

"I'd fully expect that we never get to the fourth year," Harrison said. "A school should take stronger action before that. But I think this should send a message that there will be real, serious consequences if you don't."

Schools also would receive a bonus point if a player returns to school to complete his or her degree.

The board also approved a two-year contract extension for Brand. His deal was to run through Dec. 31, 2007 and now includes an indefinite two-year rollover.


American Indian Mascots

Alcorn State
Braves

Central Michigan
Chippewas

Florida State
Seminoles

Utah
Utes

Bradley
Braves

Arkansas State
Indians

Illinois
Fighting Illini

Louisiana-Monroe
Indians
 
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Gov. Bush critices NCAA decision that affects FSU

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Gov. Jeb Bush criticized NCAA officials Tuesday for their decision to penalize Florida State University for using an American Indian nickname and symbols.

The governor said the Seminole Tribe of Florida supports the school's use of its name and NCAA officials had insulted the university and Seminole Indians by calling the nickname "hostile" and "abusive."

"I think they insult those people by telling them, 'No, no, you're not smart enough to understand this. You should be feeling really horrible about this.' It's ridiculous," Bush said.

An NCAA official previously said other Seminole tribes were opposed to the use of the name. On Tuesday, NCAA spokesman Bob Williams said officials believe their decision was made on sound legal ground.

"We recognize this is an emotional issue in Florida, and in other parts of the country there are people who feel just as strongly being opposed," Williams said.

The university has until Feb. 1 to make a formal appeal to the NCAA executive committee.

Eighteen schools have an American Indian logo or mascot that will be prohibited by the NCAA during postseason events, starting in February.

The nicknames will not be allowed on team uniforms and mascots will not be allowed to perform at games, the NCAA announced Friday. Cheerleaders and band members also will be barred from using American Indian nicknames or logos beginning in 2008.

Attorney Barry Richard has agreed to represent the school in its case against the NCAA, Florida State President T.K. Wetherell said. Richard successfully led the legal challenge on behalf of President Bush during the 2000 election recount in Florida.

"If you have the Seminole Tribe and Gov. Bush on your side, how can you go wrong?" said Florida State Vice President Lee Hinkle.

Bush said the NCAA must have better things to do than sit around worrying about the nicknames adopted by its member institutions.

"How politically correct can we get?" Bush asked. "The folks that make these decisions need to get out more often."
 
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MLB has been talkin about takin the Braves anbd Indians names away from the tems for a decade now...but too much marketing has gone into em and nothin will change...but i can totally see why people would be pissed....
 
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FSU authorize court action in mascot ban if needed

Damn theyre pissed down there...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2130960

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Florida State University trustees voted Wednesday to appeal its inclusion on a new list of schools that won't be permitted to use American Indian nicknames or logos in NCAA tournaments.

The school's Seminole mascot was one of 18 the NCAA said it finds "hostile" and "abusive."

Florida State trustees and school officials say that putting the Seminoles on the list doesn't make sense because the Seminole Tribe of Florida backs the school's use of the name and various images associated with it, such as the Seminole chief on horseback that serves as a team symbol.

The trustees also voted to authorize possible court action if the appeal doesn't work.

"We will not stand by and let this happen without a fight," Board of Trustees Chairman Jim Smith said at an emergency meeting called to give university officials authority to move forward in fighting the new ban.

NCAA spokesman Bob Williams said the organization would gladly hear the university's appeal.

"That's certainly the process we set up, and they are welcome to go through the appeal process, and we welcome their input," Williams said.

Florida State Athletic Director Dave Hart said the NCAA's inclusion of Florida State on its list ignored the school's relationship with the tribe, which was recently ratified in a resolution by the tribal council. The resolution said in part that the university had "permission" to use the tribe's name and symbols, including its Seminole head logo.

"The terms 'hostile' and 'abusive' ... appear to me to be devoid of logic, reason and a genuine evaluation of that relationship," Hart said.

Despite the Seminole Tribe of Florida's endorsement, many Native Americans reject the idea that the use of Native American symbols honors the culture.

Charlene Teters, a National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media vice president, argued the point in a message posted on the group's Web site.

"Using our names, likeness and religious symbols to excite the crowd does not feel like honor or respect, it is hurtful and confusing to our young people," wrote Teters, a member of the Spokane nation. "To reduce the victims of genocide to a mascot is unthinking, at least, and immoral at worst."

Florida State President T.K. Wetherell said university officials were also angry that they hadn't gotten to argue to the NCAA about the school's links to the tribe.

"To have a ruling of this nature come down, when [neither] we nor the tribe were asked to participate in it." Wetherell said. "That is offensive."

Trustees also expressed frustration that they didn't know how the NCAA came to determine that its use of the nickname met the definition of "hostile and abusive."

"I sure want to see that definition," Wetherell said.

There was strong support on the board for suing the NCAA over the decision if the appeals process doesn't work. The school has already approached a lawyer who has said he will take the case.

At least one other school on the list has some support from Indian tribes for which they're named.

Forrest Cuch, a member of the Ute tribe and executive director of the Utah Division of Indian Affairs, said earlier this week that he hopes the NCAA interprets its new rule loosely because the University of Utah respectfully uses the Utes nickname.

Still, Cuch said he supported the "spirit and intent" of the new policy.