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Arum and Donaire Discuss VADA Testing and the Future- Plus Mayweather News!
By Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing (June 29, 2012) Doghouse Boxing (Photo © Chris Farina / Top Rank)
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Two weeks ago, super bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire announced he would be undergoing anti-doping testing 24/7/365 days a year under the supervision of the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA). On Wednesday, Donaire and his promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank Promotions spoke with the press on a conference call regarding the testing as well as his thoughts on his future in the sport.

“I decided to do this because I wanted to show that all of the things I have done, I have done through hard work. I want to show honesty towards my fans,” declared Donaire of his decision to volunteer for state-of-the-art drug testing. “A lot of guys have been getting caught but I just wanted to prove to my fans that the things I have done I have done by myself. I am a person that started with nothing. I am honest and I think it’s good for the sport. I hope everyone is inspired by it to prove they are legit and that it can help the sport.”

Donaire’s decision has inspired others. On Tuesday, former UFC champion B.J. Penn declared on his Twitter account that he would be doing VADA testing and asked his opponent Rory MacDonald to join him in a show of athletic cleanliness for their UFC 152 match in Toronto. This was all done via Twitter.

B.J. Penn first tweeted to MacDonald:

@rory_macdonald VADA anti-doping has offered to sponsor our upcoming fight.I've accepted and invite you to help me clean up the sport

@rory_macdonald VADA results will be released after the fight to ensure that the fight happens. Lets get started asap!!

MacDonald accepted the challenge:

@bjpenndotcom already worried BJ? honestly i think its a great idea 2, and im ready to do the testing for our fight aswell MsKomatoze @MsKomatoze white

Penn and MacDonald accepted and all indications are that the two men will undergo the program leading up to their fight July 27. That said, there is no word yet if they will undergo the 24/7/365 testing Donaire will be taking part in.

“They will be doing a 24/7, 365-day random tests,” explained Donaire of his arrangement with VADA. “So they can, at any time, be knocking on my door. I have to let them know where I will be at all times.”

Donaire said that, while he is open to his opponent joining him in testing, it is not a prerequisite for fighting him.

“He is welcome to do it but I don’t force anyone to do it,” said Donaire. “If he agrees to it, the whole boxing body needs to know about it. I invite them to join but, most importantly, I want my fans to know what I am doing.”

Arum endorsed Donaire’s stance but added that the process of reform in the sport is just beginning. The goal is to ultimately be under one umbrella with regulated testing.

“I first want to commend Nonito for the position he is taking,” said Arum. “I think if you look at what is happening in Congress with the bill that Senators [Harry] Reid and [John] McCain have put in for a federal boxing commission – I would hope that if we had a federal boxing commission, that that commission would institute random drug testing for every single registered fighter in the United States so that we would have a system akin to what we have in the other major sports like football and baseball – under the auspices of a federal commission. What I am concerned about, the groups, no matter who they are, doing it without the direction of a commission. I have heard, just like you have probably heard, where people have paid money to get exemptions for people that have tested positive. That’s a little scary.”

Arum intimated he is open to having his stable of fighters undergo more stringent testing but stated that every eventuality must be accounted for.

“We will encourage everybody, even without a federal commission, VADA is a good organization to do this testing and we have to establish protocol with VADA who they would report to, etc.,” said Arum. “Let’s say Nevada finds someone who tests dirty. Now what happens? Who do they report it to? Is that basis enough for a commission? What are the consequences?”

Arum cited what happened with Andre Berto and Lamont Peterson, two fighters who tested positive this year for different substances and had their highly anticipated rematches subsequently canceled.

“And Peterson did not have a license to fight in Nevada. The same thing happened with Berto in California. So we haven’t legally thought out the consequences. How is it going to be handled?” asked Arum. “It’s a great thing. All fighters should be tested but we have to work out the consequences. It’s easy with a guy like [Antonio] Tarver who has participated in the fight, then his urine comes back allegedly dirty – that’s an easy consequence [Writer’s note: Tarver tested positive for Drostanolone following his June 2 bout with Lateef Kayode]. But what do you do with fighter “B” who agrees to submit and he has a dirty test? This is a new area and has to be worked out and it’s a lot easier to handle with a federal boxing commission.”

Arum has come a long way on the issue of improved testing in the sport since the idea was first introduced by Floyd Mayweather Jr. during negotiations for a Manny Pacquiao fight nearly three years ago. While only one fighter in Arum's stable is joining the better testing front, Donaire has raised the bar with his 24/7/365 testing protocol.

However, Arum is still skeptical that an independent testing group is the solution. He proposed that the testing must be run through the Association of Boxing Commissions or a federal boxing commission. While VADA has been successful, Arum feels groups like the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) and VADA, though they offer quality services, need to be kept in check by the boxing commissions. The sport has enough independent and unregulated groups running around already.

“I am not OK with it,” said Arum. “Until this is quantified and handled by a legally authorized agency or a federal commission, you are in no-man’s land. With a testing agency, a willy-nilly, which gives exemptions to certain fighters and not to other fighters, is very dangerous. We talk about a level playing field and we’re not getting a level playing field. We have to think this whole thing out. Everyone, I believe, has good intentions but it has to be done right and done fairly. Something that is not only fair to the participants but also fair to the fans. We can’t let this thing be decided by demagoguery or by people making outlandish statements. It is a very serious problem and it requires a lot of thought.”

There will be more on Donaire’s upcoming July 7 bout next week on Maxboxing.com. For now, Arum and Donaire together looked forward into the future in the talent-rich super bantamweight division.

“Those who follow boxing know that the 122-pound division is chock full of superstars,” said Arum. “We have a long list of guys who will be making tremendous fights. HBO has recognized this and will concentrate on bringing to the public the best of 122 pounds in a series of bouts. We start off with the number one guy in the division, Nonito Donaire, who will be fighting a title unification fight against Jeffrey Mathebula of South Africa and also a world champion. Waiting out there is Guillermo Rigondeaux who has two Olympic gold medals to his credit and another world champion who will be fighting on the [Julio Cesar] Chavez Jr.-[Sergio] Martinez card on September 15. Another champion out there is Jorge Arce. And sitting at ringside, as I understand it, on July 7, watching Nonito Donaire, will be another champion, Toshiaki Nishioka of Japan. So these are really exciting times in the 122-pound division and it all kicks off on Saturday, July 7 with Nonito against Mathebula.”
 

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As long as he still has his timing, he'll beat the crap out of wild swinging Manny. Manny should wait for Floyd himself to say that's he's ready to return to the ring then try to secure a fight. Floyd might want to hit the gym and spar to see if his timing/stamina is still there before talking about a Manny fight. Maybe Floyd has lost interest in fighting Manny since Manny lost to Bradley.

I just find if funny that Manny was pretty quiet when Floyd was out and ready to fight. Now that Floyd is behind bars (locked in a cell 23 hours a day) surviving off of bread and apples, Manny wants Arum to schedule the fight ASAP?
LMAO! You need to STOP being over dramatic, Tony. And if he is surviving off bread and apples so fuckin what? You have children in THIS country, fuck a third world one, THIS COUNTRY, that don't even have that.
 

HERESY

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Your lame homeless ass is back fucking up the boxing thread with you whinning and crying. Go away again cornball.
Yep, I'm staying in a very nice telly about 2 miles from my crib until my home is fixed. Yep, I'm homeless!

Now when your moms and I are finished I'll boot your pops out of my hotel room closet. We all know he likes to watch but I'm getting a bit tired of this shit.

ETA: Who won the Bradley vs Pac fight today, bigfail?
 

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LMAO! You need to STOP being over dramatic, Tony. And if he is surviving off bread and apples so fuckin what? You have children in THIS country, fuck a third world one, THIS COUNTRY, that don't even have that.
Huh?

Floyd is going to lose the "urge" to fight Pacquiao or anyone else because he's not able to workout and eat like he's used to eating, plus he's getting older. Not sure what point you're trying to make in regards to comparing a hungry Floyd to hungry children in this country. We're talking about the best boxer in the world, pound for pound who is actually losing pounds and maybe losing interest in fighting again. Looks like you're being over dramatic in bringing up hungry children.
 
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floyd is doing a couple months not a couple years. ur acting like he's in a nazi camp.

I agree it will take some time, maybe he fights again this year, maybe he needs till next year but many fighters have done time, many. if floyd wants to fight, which I believe he will, he'll be fine physically. floyd is a beast when it comes to training he'll get back in shape. its just a matter of how much time he needs.
 

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floyd is doing a couple months not a couple years. ur acting like he's in a nazi camp.

I agree it will take some time, maybe he fights again this year, maybe he needs till next year but many fighters have done time, many. if floyd wants to fight, which I believe he will, he'll be fine physically. floyd is a beast when it comes to training he'll get back in shape. its just a matter of how much time he needs.
Floyd is done bruh... I think he's going to retire with an undefeated record. Manny blew it by not taking the drug test.
 

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Huh?

Floyd is going to lose the "urge" to fight Pacquiao or anyone else because he's not able to workout and eat like he's used to eating, plus he's getting older. Not sure what point you're trying to make in regards to comparing a hungry Floyd to hungry children in this country. We're talking about the best boxer in the world, pound for pound who is actually losing pounds and maybe losing interest in fighting again. Looks like you're being over dramatic in bringing up hungry children.

Tony, Floyd went on vacation for a YEAR! Do you think he was working out that entire time? Hell fuck no so stop being dramatic. Now if you were bigfail, I'd start cussin' your ass out right about now, but the two of us usually get along so I'm not gonna go there with you, bro.

What was Floyd eating BEFORE he became the best boxer and the world? He wasn't eating choice cuts, fuckin rack of lamb, fine wine, the best cheeses, etc. Nigga was eatin apples, bread and cold cuts, lol. Seriously man, NOTHING is going to happen to Floyd. Tyson did YEARS in prison, he came out and was still able to compete, so Floyd sitting down for 60 fuckin days isn't going to kill him.

And I mentioned the children in this country to make a point but I see it flew over your head. Not good, bro.
 

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this is funny, cant wait for the fight!
[video=youtube;ecTMWF3y6V8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ecTMWF3y6V8#![/video]
 
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Yep, I'm staying in a very nice telly about 2 miles from my crib until my home is fixed. Yep, I'm homeless!

Now when your moms and I are finished I'll boot your pops out of my hotel room closet. We all know he likes to watch but I'm getting a bit tired of this shit.

ETA: Who won the Bradley vs Pac fight today, bigfail?
You still hurt that Manny lose?? lol the only cornball in the thread still whinning about losing. The score is still the same it was a day after the fight a DRAW. Cry me a river bitchboy and move on.
 
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Tony, Floyd went on vacation for a YEAR! Do you think he was working out that entire time? Hell fuck no so stop being dramatic. Now if you were bigfail, I'd start cussin' your ass out right about now, but the two of us usually get along so I'm not gonna go there with you, bro.

What was Floyd eating BEFORE he became the best boxer and the world? He wasn't eating choice cuts, fuckin rack of lamb, fine wine, the best cheeses, etc. Nigga was eatin apples, bread and cold cuts, lol. Seriously man, NOTHING is going to happen to Floyd. Tyson did YEARS in prison, he came out and was still able to compete, so Floyd sitting down for 60 fuckin days isn't going to kill him.

And I mentioned the children in this country to make a point but I see it flew over your head. Not good, bro.
It's so funny to see this lame talking so gangster over the internet. Heresy you are a dumb ass no one cares about your whinning ass. You have proven over and over again that you don't have a clue about what you're talking about. Stick to hyping up Manny that's the only thing your good at in the boxing thread. Now shut you homeless ass up..
 
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Emanuel Steward Still Has Suspicions About Chavez Jr.


By Chris Robinson

Over the weekend I made the trek from Las Vegas to the Fantasy Springs Casino in Indio, California to cover the ShoBox: The New Generation tripleheader, headlined by IBF junior middleweight champion Cornelius Bundrage’s rematch with Cory Spinks as well as showcases from unbeaten featherweight Gary Russell Jr. and stylish Cuban southpaw Erislandy Lara.

All three contests were interesting in their own right, as Bundrage chopped down a reluctant Spinks in the seventh round while Lara outclassed a determined Freddy Hernandez and Russell Jr. plowed through overmatched Christopher Perez in three heats.

Having personally been fine-tuning Bundrage’s skills over the past few years, trainer Emanuel Steward would tell me after his fighter’s victory that he is only eyeing big fights and expressed interest in a meeting with WBC champion Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez.

And while it’s nice to know that Steward and Bundrage could be on the verge of some meaningful fights in the division, I actually am still taken back to a conversation I had with the respected Kronk trainer one day prior.

It was at the Spinks-Bundrage II weigh-in when Steward and I spoke about a variety of topics in the sport, one of them being the recent wave of performance-enhancing drugs in boxing, as the past few months have seen former champions Lamont Peterson, Andre Berto, and Antonio Tarver all fail some form of a pre-fight drug test.

Asked for his take on the situation, Steward quickly directed his suspicions towards WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., who defeated his fighter Andy Lee via 7th round TKO on June 16th in El Paso, Texas.

“I am very, very surprised and I am very concerned,” Steward admitted. “In my experience I just recently had with Andy Lee; to my knowledge Julio Cesar Chavez [Jr.] never really took any drug test. They me tell me he was going to take a test after the fight and at the last minute they had my nephew come in, ‘Oh, he’s going to take it now’ and here, he comes in the room with two other guys and they said he took the test so he doesn’t have to take nothing now.”

The Chavez-Lee fight was a lively affair full of plenty of toe to toe action. And while the contest was pretty even over the first half of the fight, Chavez would break through with a punishing seventh round, battering Lee along the ropes and forcing referee Laurence Cole to call a halt to the action.

Speaking to Steward following his defeat, Lee seemed dumbfounded at how physically strong Chavez was.

“As Andy said, ‘I’ve boxed with Wladimir Klitschko many times; for this fight I boxed with guys 180 pounds. His strength was going like he was almost a 500-pound man’. Based on that and some of the other things I am beginning to see, I realize that there may be something going on that I don’t know of,” Steward said.

Chavez Jr. trains under the tutelage of four-time trainer of the year Freddie Roach, known best for his work with eight-division champion Manny Pacquiao. While not implying anything directly, Steward seemed to direct his attention towards that particular camp as he continued to vent.

“I’m looking at this, and he’s having leg cramps and Manny Pacquiao having leg cramps; there’s too many strange things going on,” Steward explained. “I really do believe now that’s become a very serious issue in our sport that has to be seriously dealt with, because having advantages of hometowns and small rings, even partial officials, that’s one thing. But to have where a person’s human strength and endurance is doubling and tripling that of an opponent, that could be one of the most difficult and problematic problems in our sport in the next year or so.”

It should be noted that both Top Rank, and the governing commission in Texas, confirmed that Chavez was tested prior to the fight and his results came back negative for any illegal substances.


But when Mayweather wanted extra testing he was a coward and Steward didn't speak up he just rode with the haters. Now Lee gets manhandled and you whinning about drug testing. lol..
 

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Now if you were bigfail, I'd start cussin' your ass out right about now, but the two of us usually get along so I'm not gonna go there with you, bro.
I get along with everyone in this forum. Sometimes I just don't agree with the majority opinion. Feel free to cuss me out all you want, it's not going to bother me or change my opinion, bro!

Mike Tyson is a good example, even though a lot of boxing fans seem to think that Tyson's skills had declined some. I hear they eat better in prison as compared to county jail.