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Canelo can't find anyone to fight to save his life. If K9 wins it looks like K9 vs Canelo. Remember K9 is the IBF champion so the fight will be for two belts at 154lb. Plus K9 has no defense so it would be a all action fight until the end. Lara is high risk low reward. Vanes hasn't fought anyone to get a shot, dude turns down more big fights then anyone.
I know you aren't blaming Canelo......
and how could anyone NOW saw he isn't trying to fight a good fighter next fight. Williams, Kirkland, and Ortiz......those are really decent fights for him and all 3 of those fools ain't fighting. That is not Canelo's fight.
I give Canelo camp a lot of credit here.
I just don't see that. At ALL.
and how could anyone NOW saw he isn't trying to fight a good fighter next fight. Williams, Kirkland, and Ortiz......those are really decent fights for him and all 3 of those fools ain't fighting. That is not Canelo's fight.
I give Canelo camp a lot of credit here.
I just don't see that. At ALL.
Mares injured - out of Esquival fight Aug 25th
WBC junior featherweight titleholder Abner Mares suffered a rib injury on Sunday that led to his turning down a proposed clash with rising bantamweight Christian Esquival of Mexico that was intended for Aug. 25 in his native Guadalajara, Mexico, Mares' manager, Frank Espinoza, informed RingTV.com on Tuesday evening.
A resident of Montebello, Calif., who is coming off a unanimous decision over former beltholder Eric Morel in April, Mares (24-0-1, 13 knockouts) had been slated to face Esquival (25-3, 18 KOs), who is coming off a unanimous decision over Jesus Ruiz in April.
"Aug. 25 is out. Abner bruised his ribs when he was doing his drills on Sunday morning. So, he just felt sore and bruised and he's going to lay off for a while," said Espinoza.
"He went to do his drills with his training and conditioning coach on Sunday. It could have been an old, nagging injury, but we want to be safe and we want to make sure that we're taking care of Abner. It's not worth it if he's not 100 percent."
If there is a break to be taken by a fighter, Mares is one boxer who may deserve it.
Promoted by Golden Boy Promotions, Mares has fought 60 consecutive title fight rounds, having twice beaten ex-beltholder Joseph Agbeko, earned a decision over former titleholder Vic Darchinyan and battled to a draw with then-beltholder Yonnhy Perez.
Mares also has expressed the desire to face WBO counterpart Nonito Donaire (28-1, 18 KOs) should he get beyond a July 7 unification fight with IBF beltholder Jeffrey Mathebula (26-3-2, 14 KOs), although Donaire is promoted by rival Top Rank Inc. There is also WBA beltholder Guillermo Rigondeaux (10-0, 8 KOs).
WBC junior featherweight titleholder Abner Mares suffered a rib injury on Sunday that led to his turning down a proposed clash with rising bantamweight Christian Esquival of Mexico that was intended for Aug. 25 in his native Guadalajara, Mexico, Mares' manager, Frank Espinoza, informed RingTV.com on Tuesday evening.
A resident of Montebello, Calif., who is coming off a unanimous decision over former beltholder Eric Morel in April, Mares (24-0-1, 13 knockouts) had been slated to face Esquival (25-3, 18 KOs), who is coming off a unanimous decision over Jesus Ruiz in April.
"Aug. 25 is out. Abner bruised his ribs when he was doing his drills on Sunday morning. So, he just felt sore and bruised and he's going to lay off for a while," said Espinoza.
"He went to do his drills with his training and conditioning coach on Sunday. It could have been an old, nagging injury, but we want to be safe and we want to make sure that we're taking care of Abner. It's not worth it if he's not 100 percent."
If there is a break to be taken by a fighter, Mares is one boxer who may deserve it.
Promoted by Golden Boy Promotions, Mares has fought 60 consecutive title fight rounds, having twice beaten ex-beltholder Joseph Agbeko, earned a decision over former titleholder Vic Darchinyan and battled to a draw with then-beltholder Yonnhy Perez.
Mares also has expressed the desire to face WBO counterpart Nonito Donaire (28-1, 18 KOs) should he get beyond a July 7 unification fight with IBF beltholder Jeffrey Mathebula (26-3-2, 14 KOs), although Donaire is promoted by rival Top Rank Inc. There is also WBA beltholder Guillermo Rigondeaux (10-0, 8 KOs).
Bernstein: Nonito Donaire is the best fighter in the lower weights
June 26th, 2012
By Chris Williams: Showtime boxing analyst Al Bernstein is high on WBO super bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire (28-1, 18 KO’s) for some reason, seeing him as the best fighter in the entire lower weight classes.
Frankly, I don’t see what Bernstein is talking about because other than wins over Vic Darchinyan and Fernando Montiel, Donaire hasn’t looked very special to me, especially now that he’s moved up to super bantamweight.
Bernstein told Chris Williams at examiner.com “I think Nonito Donaire is the best lower weight fighter in the world. The only question will be, as he’s getting up in weight here, when he’s at 126 facing somebody like Yuriorkis Gamboa.”
Don’t look now, Bernstein, but your boy Donaire isn’t looking so hot at 122. It won’t take Gamboa to knock the glitter off of the Donaire hype machine. Put him in with Guillermo Rigondeaux and watch the excuses fly afterwards when Donaire gets knocked out. He’s got the same Top Rank promoter as recent excuse fighters Manny Pacquiao and Brandon Rios.
I can see Donaire coming up with some real whoppers to explain away a knockout loss to Ringondeaux, and if he doesn’t do it, I can bet his promoter Bob Arum will have some kind of sad tale to explain why Donaire got knocked cold. And as far as Donaire moving up to 126 to take on the likes of Gamboa, that isn’t going to happen anytime soon if ever. Donaire is talking about wanting to face Abner Mares, Jorge Arce, Toshiaki Nishioka and Rigondeaux before he moves up in weight. I’m sorry but I see Donaire losing to Mares, and definitely to Rigondeaux. I’m not sure about Nishioka. I’ve seen a few of his fights and he’s looked awful to me, but good enough to give Donaire a lot of problems.
Donaire could have fought Mares or Rigondeaux in his next fight on July 7th, but instead Donaire has decided to take yet another easy fight by taking on IBF title holder Jeffrey Mathebula at the Home Depot Center, in Carson, California, United States. Mathebula is a title holder, but I don’t consider him a world champion. This is just another soft fight for Donaire to keep him winning. Don’t hold your breath waiting for Donaire to fight Rigondeaux, because that fight will most likely never happen.
June 26th, 2012
By Chris Williams: Showtime boxing analyst Al Bernstein is high on WBO super bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire (28-1, 18 KO’s) for some reason, seeing him as the best fighter in the entire lower weight classes.
Frankly, I don’t see what Bernstein is talking about because other than wins over Vic Darchinyan and Fernando Montiel, Donaire hasn’t looked very special to me, especially now that he’s moved up to super bantamweight.
Bernstein told Chris Williams at examiner.com “I think Nonito Donaire is the best lower weight fighter in the world. The only question will be, as he’s getting up in weight here, when he’s at 126 facing somebody like Yuriorkis Gamboa.”
Don’t look now, Bernstein, but your boy Donaire isn’t looking so hot at 122. It won’t take Gamboa to knock the glitter off of the Donaire hype machine. Put him in with Guillermo Rigondeaux and watch the excuses fly afterwards when Donaire gets knocked out. He’s got the same Top Rank promoter as recent excuse fighters Manny Pacquiao and Brandon Rios.
I can see Donaire coming up with some real whoppers to explain away a knockout loss to Ringondeaux, and if he doesn’t do it, I can bet his promoter Bob Arum will have some kind of sad tale to explain why Donaire got knocked cold. And as far as Donaire moving up to 126 to take on the likes of Gamboa, that isn’t going to happen anytime soon if ever. Donaire is talking about wanting to face Abner Mares, Jorge Arce, Toshiaki Nishioka and Rigondeaux before he moves up in weight. I’m sorry but I see Donaire losing to Mares, and definitely to Rigondeaux. I’m not sure about Nishioka. I’ve seen a few of his fights and he’s looked awful to me, but good enough to give Donaire a lot of problems.
Donaire could have fought Mares or Rigondeaux in his next fight on July 7th, but instead Donaire has decided to take yet another easy fight by taking on IBF title holder Jeffrey Mathebula at the Home Depot Center, in Carson, California, United States. Mathebula is a title holder, but I don’t consider him a world champion. This is just another soft fight for Donaire to keep him winning. Don’t hold your breath waiting for Donaire to fight Rigondeaux, because that fight will most likely never happen.
Canelo Alvarez: I wanted to fight Mayweather or Cotto next, but they’re on vacation
June 26th, 2012
By Jason Kim: WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez’s big plans of a fight against Victor Ortiz on September 15th were dashed last weekend with Ortiz’s upset loss to Josesito Lopez. Alvarez’s promoters at Golden Boy now have several options for opponents to put in with Alvarez, but the names that have been mentioned are less than appealing unfortunately.
The 21-year-old Alvarez was asked at the Ortiz-Lopez post fight press conference who he wants to fight next and he said “I wanted to fight Mayweather or Cotto, but they’re on vacation.”
Floyd Mayweather, of course, is serving an 87-day jail sentence, whereas Miguel Cotto just got a nice payday in losing to Mayweather and he’s not about to get in the ring any time soon especially to face a big puncher like Alvarez.
Alvarez is going to have to settle for the likes of the winner of the Cory Spinks vs. Cornelius Bundrage fight, Austin Trout or Carlos Quintana. None of them are the big names that Golden Boy Promotions was hoping for, and it’s going to be less than huge fight because Alvarez still isn’t popular enough to bring in the big ratings on his own. The fight likely won’t be on pay-per-view, because Alvarez needs help to bring in the PPV numbers, and it would take a major star for him to get enough buys to make it worthwhile. Hopefully, Golden Boy doesn’t get stubborn about it and decide to make Alvarez’s next fight a PPV bout if all he’s getting for an opponent is Austin, Quintana, Bundrage or Spinks. Those are really dull fights and it’s hard to imagine them even breaking 50,000 buys.
June 26th, 2012
By Jason Kim: WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez’s big plans of a fight against Victor Ortiz on September 15th were dashed last weekend with Ortiz’s upset loss to Josesito Lopez. Alvarez’s promoters at Golden Boy now have several options for opponents to put in with Alvarez, but the names that have been mentioned are less than appealing unfortunately.
The 21-year-old Alvarez was asked at the Ortiz-Lopez post fight press conference who he wants to fight next and he said “I wanted to fight Mayweather or Cotto, but they’re on vacation.”
Floyd Mayweather, of course, is serving an 87-day jail sentence, whereas Miguel Cotto just got a nice payday in losing to Mayweather and he’s not about to get in the ring any time soon especially to face a big puncher like Alvarez.
Alvarez is going to have to settle for the likes of the winner of the Cory Spinks vs. Cornelius Bundrage fight, Austin Trout or Carlos Quintana. None of them are the big names that Golden Boy Promotions was hoping for, and it’s going to be less than huge fight because Alvarez still isn’t popular enough to bring in the big ratings on his own. The fight likely won’t be on pay-per-view, because Alvarez needs help to bring in the PPV numbers, and it would take a major star for him to get enough buys to make it worthwhile. Hopefully, Golden Boy doesn’t get stubborn about it and decide to make Alvarez’s next fight a PPV bout if all he’s getting for an opponent is Austin, Quintana, Bundrage or Spinks. Those are really dull fights and it’s hard to imagine them even breaking 50,000 buys.
Malignaggi: Ortiz could use a sports psychologist
June 26th, 2012
By Dan Ambrose: WBA World welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi, who’s no strange to pain, thinks that Victor Ortiz is being judged negatively by fans now because of Ortiz’s past fights where he had problems and made mental mistakes. Ortiz quit last Saturday night in the 9th round against Josesito Lopez due to a broken jaw.
Malignaggi told ESPN writer Michael Woods “He [Ortiz] dug his own hole. He made his rep. I’m not saying this to punk him out, but he didn’t perform well under pressure. Now, people judge him harshly on this…But mentally, he could I think use a sports psychologist.”
Malignaggi thinks that Ortiz makes his fights harder than they should be by failing to use his boxing skills, and looking to slug with guys.
I kind of doubt whether Ortiz can be helped by a sports psychologist. Ortiz seems to come unglued when he takes punishment, and I think it might take years for him to be helped by doctor of the mind. Who knows? By the time they did make any inroads to whatever is causing Ortiz to self destruct, he might be too old for it to help him.
Ortiz was right to quit in his loss to Josesito Lopez fight. However, he did fight the wrong fight in that bout by slugging it out with Lopez instead of using his jab. He’s got a great jab and doesn’t need to get hit if he doesn’t want to.
June 26th, 2012
By Dan Ambrose: WBA World welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi, who’s no strange to pain, thinks that Victor Ortiz is being judged negatively by fans now because of Ortiz’s past fights where he had problems and made mental mistakes. Ortiz quit last Saturday night in the 9th round against Josesito Lopez due to a broken jaw.
Malignaggi told ESPN writer Michael Woods “He [Ortiz] dug his own hole. He made his rep. I’m not saying this to punk him out, but he didn’t perform well under pressure. Now, people judge him harshly on this…But mentally, he could I think use a sports psychologist.”
Malignaggi thinks that Ortiz makes his fights harder than they should be by failing to use his boxing skills, and looking to slug with guys.
I kind of doubt whether Ortiz can be helped by a sports psychologist. Ortiz seems to come unglued when he takes punishment, and I think it might take years for him to be helped by doctor of the mind. Who knows? By the time they did make any inroads to whatever is causing Ortiz to self destruct, he might be too old for it to help him.
Ortiz was right to quit in his loss to Josesito Lopez fight. However, he did fight the wrong fight in that bout by slugging it out with Lopez instead of using his jab. He’s got a great jab and doesn’t need to get hit if he doesn’t want to.
Schaefer: Victor Ortiz could have bled out due to broken jaw
June 26th, 2012
By Allan Fox: Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer believes that his fighter former WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz (29-4-2, 22 KO’s) did the right thing by quitting after the 9th round against Josesito Lopez (30-4, 18 KO’s) last Saturday, because Ortiz’s broken jaw put him at a danger of bleeding out due to the bone of his broken jaw causing internal damage from Lopez’s blows.
Schaefer said to the USAtoday.com “And those who say well, Ali, it was different times, different circumstances. I talked to the ringside doctor after the fight, and he was telling me it was very severe, internal bleeding, and he said it’s very dangerous, that Victor could bleed out.”
Schaefer has a point. It obviously was dangerous for Ortiz to be fighting with a broken jaw, and it matters little whether fighters in the past have stuck it out and continued fighting. Ortiz wasn’t going to take that chance. However, Ortiz has quit in the past in his fight against Marcos Maidana in 2009 when he started to take punishment, and some boxing fans feel that Ortiz quit in his loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. by head-butting him when things were looking bleak for Ortiz. The head-butting looked like a fighter who was desperate, and some boxing fans think Ortiz did that in order to be disqualified. In other words, to take the easy way out. Additionally, by Ortiz dropping his hands after the action had resumed, it gave some people the impression that he was quitting.
If Ortiz never has another episode like the Maidana, Mayweather, and Lopez fight, then you can agree with Schaefer that his fighter isn’t a quitter. But if we continue to see things that appear to be Ortiz quitting when he starts to get beat up in the ring, then it’s going to affirm the opinion in the minds of many boxing fans that Ortiz is a quitter. I think he’s going to have to tough it out in future fights to reverse the beliefs that people have about him.
June 26th, 2012
By Allan Fox: Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer believes that his fighter former WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz (29-4-2, 22 KO’s) did the right thing by quitting after the 9th round against Josesito Lopez (30-4, 18 KO’s) last Saturday, because Ortiz’s broken jaw put him at a danger of bleeding out due to the bone of his broken jaw causing internal damage from Lopez’s blows.
Schaefer said to the USAtoday.com “And those who say well, Ali, it was different times, different circumstances. I talked to the ringside doctor after the fight, and he was telling me it was very severe, internal bleeding, and he said it’s very dangerous, that Victor could bleed out.”
Schaefer has a point. It obviously was dangerous for Ortiz to be fighting with a broken jaw, and it matters little whether fighters in the past have stuck it out and continued fighting. Ortiz wasn’t going to take that chance. However, Ortiz has quit in the past in his fight against Marcos Maidana in 2009 when he started to take punishment, and some boxing fans feel that Ortiz quit in his loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. by head-butting him when things were looking bleak for Ortiz. The head-butting looked like a fighter who was desperate, and some boxing fans think Ortiz did that in order to be disqualified. In other words, to take the easy way out. Additionally, by Ortiz dropping his hands after the action had resumed, it gave some people the impression that he was quitting.
If Ortiz never has another episode like the Maidana, Mayweather, and Lopez fight, then you can agree with Schaefer that his fighter isn’t a quitter. But if we continue to see things that appear to be Ortiz quitting when he starts to get beat up in the ring, then it’s going to affirm the opinion in the minds of many boxing fans that Ortiz is a quitter. I think he’s going to have to tough it out in future fights to reverse the beliefs that people have about him.
Lucas Matthysse would be a nightmare for Amir Khan
June 26th, 2012
By Byron Wallin: This past Saturday night light welterweight contender Lucas Matthysse (31-2, 29 KO’s) produced a career best performance in destroying the game former two time lightweight champion of the World Humberto Soto (58-8-2, 34 KO’s).
Soto fought bravely, and for the first few rounds appeared to have some success with his jab and solid boxing skills. However, nothing he landed appeared to deter Matthysee, who used controlled come forward aggression to get inside Soto’s shots and land devastating hooks and straight shots to both the head and body of the 32 year old warrior. It was an awe inspiring performance that harked back to the style of past warriors such as Mickey Ward Arturo Gatti and Jake Lamotta amongst others. Resulting in Soto being unable to answer the bell for the sixth round, a wise decision as I for one was genuinely concerned for his health had he continued.
The sad truth of modern boxing is that although this stunning performance should serve as a springboard for Matthysse’s career, it may instead result in him becoming even more revered and avoided than he was prior to this Saturday night. Indeed, one fighter I can envision as wanting no part of Matthysse is former WBA/IBF light welterweight champion Amir Khan. Khan is a masterful boxer when he is able to dictate the range and pace of a fight with his excellent jab and lightening quick combinations. However, in his close decision victory over Marcos Maidana, and controversial loss to the now disgraced Lamont Peterson, Khan’s lack of an inside fighting game was exposed, leading to him shipping a lot of punishment and spending much of the fights on the back foot trying to find room to throw his own shots.
Matthysse appears to be a more refined version of Maidana. This was evident in the way he was blocking shots as he moved inside before unleashing his own power punches. Matthysse is also arguably a bigger puncher than Maidana and certainly a far harder hitter than Peterson. If Khan decided to take a fight with Matthysee, I do not see him being capable of applying any sort of game plan that could keep Lucas off him. He is too strong and relentless, and would almost certainly stop Amir. For this reason it is sad that Lucas will probably miss out on a career high pay day and the chance to take the scalp of one of boxing’s ‘Golden Boys’.
June 26th, 2012
By Byron Wallin: This past Saturday night light welterweight contender Lucas Matthysse (31-2, 29 KO’s) produced a career best performance in destroying the game former two time lightweight champion of the World Humberto Soto (58-8-2, 34 KO’s).
Soto fought bravely, and for the first few rounds appeared to have some success with his jab and solid boxing skills. However, nothing he landed appeared to deter Matthysee, who used controlled come forward aggression to get inside Soto’s shots and land devastating hooks and straight shots to both the head and body of the 32 year old warrior. It was an awe inspiring performance that harked back to the style of past warriors such as Mickey Ward Arturo Gatti and Jake Lamotta amongst others. Resulting in Soto being unable to answer the bell for the sixth round, a wise decision as I for one was genuinely concerned for his health had he continued.
The sad truth of modern boxing is that although this stunning performance should serve as a springboard for Matthysse’s career, it may instead result in him becoming even more revered and avoided than he was prior to this Saturday night. Indeed, one fighter I can envision as wanting no part of Matthysse is former WBA/IBF light welterweight champion Amir Khan. Khan is a masterful boxer when he is able to dictate the range and pace of a fight with his excellent jab and lightening quick combinations. However, in his close decision victory over Marcos Maidana, and controversial loss to the now disgraced Lamont Peterson, Khan’s lack of an inside fighting game was exposed, leading to him shipping a lot of punishment and spending much of the fights on the back foot trying to find room to throw his own shots.
Matthysse appears to be a more refined version of Maidana. This was evident in the way he was blocking shots as he moved inside before unleashing his own power punches. Matthysse is also arguably a bigger puncher than Maidana and certainly a far harder hitter than Peterson. If Khan decided to take a fight with Matthysee, I do not see him being capable of applying any sort of game plan that could keep Lucas off him. He is too strong and relentless, and would almost certainly stop Amir. For this reason it is sad that Lucas will probably miss out on a career high pay day and the chance to take the scalp of one of boxing’s ‘Golden Boys’.
The Case Of HBO Nuthuggery
By Jason Petock, Doghouse Boxing (June 27, 2012) Doghouse Boxing (Photo © German Villasenor)
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Timothy Bradley
There has been an extremely viral YouTube video as of late that has been circulating around the internet among boxing circles. In the clip (*embedded below for viewing), the editor/maker of the clip inadvertently intends to showcase what they deem as having really happened in the now sensationally over-hyped and increasingly controversial and heavily talked about bout between reigning WBO Welterweight Champion Timothy “Desert Storm” Bradley 29-0 (12) and Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao 54-4-2 (38) which occurred on June 9th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. The reason it is inadvertent is because the creator actually puts a disclaimer with the video stating, “This video is NOT about who won the fight, nor is it really about the fight.” A somewhat contradictive statement to be honest here. Without a doubt the captured images are definitively about the fight. The video showcases several times where Manny Pacquiao clearly misses an evasive and defensive Timothy Bradley, as “Desert Storm” bobs, weaves, and ducks from the left hand of “Pac Man,” a punch that misses its intended target time and time again during their fight. The vignette is well put together by an apparently somewhat trained sports eye, as the misses of Pacquiao are clear cut and highlighted with accuracy, unlike the punches themselves. It gives the case for argument for Timothy Bradley and his oft questioned victory even if the YouTube feature is only 14:58 long with some filler for emphasis.
Yet the main focus of the piece itself is to bring to the attention of the boxing public the immediate fact that HBO tends to broadcast fights and deliver boxing contests, particularly through their sportscaster’s somewhat distorted viewpoints, in a manner that is slightly biased. You see, the network is huge on building stars with star power at any cost, even if the methods they use aren’t necessarily always the best. They tried to feed it to the public before with Jermain “Bad Intentions” Taylor 30-4-1 (18) back in 2005, as they screwed over boxing legend Bernard “The Executioner” Hopkins 52-6-2 (32), who became one of many in a long line of victims who fell prey to the networks ridiculousness over the years. Real boxing fans knew at the time that Hopkins beat Taylor, although the network would have you believe otherwise. That’s the real skill of their silver tongued ringside commentators, they can sell you shit even when you can smell it, they’re just that good. With the Bradley and Pacquiao fight, it was pretty palpable that as they called the fight they were all over “Pac Man’s” nuts. Let’s cut the bullshit for a minute, shall we? Pacquiao draws a crowd and gets the ratings and money for those who want it most. With every punch he throws he hits his opponent, at least according to the HBO commentators anyway. Bradley did do a bang up job in moving his head and avoiding several of Pacquiao’s punches. The whole fight was sloppy at best and the thought of them doing it again should make anyone’s stomach curdle a little. No thanks.
Now congratulations should solidly be extended to Timothy Bradley. The decision in his fight against Manny Pacquiao was in no way his fault. He’s a boxer and won a Championship. It’s just that simple. He’s trained and worked so hard his entire life to get to this point only to have it belittled and questioned repeatedly. This isn’t to say that there aren’t some valid assumptions and viewpoints surrounding what happened. Yet Bradley shouldn’t be the one to have to answer to anyone. It’s so easy for us to sit back as armchair boxers and say this and that about fighters. Tell me, would you be willing to give up a Championship title that you worked your whole life for because of someone else’s errors in judgment? Maybe to Bradley he did win the bout? The judges have already been looked into and they’re not budging so as it stands he did. Case closed. But HBO is probably frothing at the mouth at a potential rematch where Pacquiao rises from the ashes like the proverbial Filipino phoenix to reclaim his title in dramatic fashion from the antagonist Bradley. It plays out like the low budget melodrama that no one wants to see. Bradley should fight other top fighters in the division and leave Pacquiao to Mayweather (won’t happen). That would be the true test of not only his skills in the ring but prove as a validation of his current Championship standing.
The clip on YouTube is called “Boxing: A Tale Of HBO Nuthuggery,” and if not anything else it is a little eye-opening, though at times it can become annoying as well. Look it up (*or view it above on this page). Take it for what it’s worth. At least someone had the nerve to mention something that we have all known for far too long, and that is when HBO airs a fight and one of their darlings is fighting expect the bullshit to fly. In fact, sometimes it gets so thick that you need to keep your boots on. “Yes men” work for the networks for a reason. They don’t ask questions, don’t really care about the sport or its competitors (outside of using the boxers accomplishments to further their own analytic hyperbole), and pervert the sport with their incessant bias and almost legally blind boxing breakdown. No one is perfect but you would expect the egos at HBO to get it right at least some of the time. Trainer Emeritus Emanuel Steward is the only credible person on any one of their broadcasts, and with the exception of the occasional boxer here and there, such as either Roy Jones, Jr. 55-8 (40) or Lennox “The Lion” Lewis 41-2-1 (32), their ranks are filled with drunks, women abusers, failed rappers and blind old men who never fought a day in their life. The network has their hands so far up these guys’ asses that all they can taste anymore is Vaseline. Open your eyes people. Save our sport.
Jason can be reached with your questions, concerns, gripes, moans, complaints, insults or kudos at BoxingWarrior[USER=30659]@hot[/USER]mail.com. Your feedback is appreciated as always. Stay honest and keep punching.
By Jason Petock, Doghouse Boxing (June 27, 2012) Doghouse Boxing (Photo © German Villasenor)
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Timothy Bradley
There has been an extremely viral YouTube video as of late that has been circulating around the internet among boxing circles. In the clip (*embedded below for viewing), the editor/maker of the clip inadvertently intends to showcase what they deem as having really happened in the now sensationally over-hyped and increasingly controversial and heavily talked about bout between reigning WBO Welterweight Champion Timothy “Desert Storm” Bradley 29-0 (12) and Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao 54-4-2 (38) which occurred on June 9th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. The reason it is inadvertent is because the creator actually puts a disclaimer with the video stating, “This video is NOT about who won the fight, nor is it really about the fight.” A somewhat contradictive statement to be honest here. Without a doubt the captured images are definitively about the fight. The video showcases several times where Manny Pacquiao clearly misses an evasive and defensive Timothy Bradley, as “Desert Storm” bobs, weaves, and ducks from the left hand of “Pac Man,” a punch that misses its intended target time and time again during their fight. The vignette is well put together by an apparently somewhat trained sports eye, as the misses of Pacquiao are clear cut and highlighted with accuracy, unlike the punches themselves. It gives the case for argument for Timothy Bradley and his oft questioned victory even if the YouTube feature is only 14:58 long with some filler for emphasis.
Yet the main focus of the piece itself is to bring to the attention of the boxing public the immediate fact that HBO tends to broadcast fights and deliver boxing contests, particularly through their sportscaster’s somewhat distorted viewpoints, in a manner that is slightly biased. You see, the network is huge on building stars with star power at any cost, even if the methods they use aren’t necessarily always the best. They tried to feed it to the public before with Jermain “Bad Intentions” Taylor 30-4-1 (18) back in 2005, as they screwed over boxing legend Bernard “The Executioner” Hopkins 52-6-2 (32), who became one of many in a long line of victims who fell prey to the networks ridiculousness over the years. Real boxing fans knew at the time that Hopkins beat Taylor, although the network would have you believe otherwise. That’s the real skill of their silver tongued ringside commentators, they can sell you shit even when you can smell it, they’re just that good. With the Bradley and Pacquiao fight, it was pretty palpable that as they called the fight they were all over “Pac Man’s” nuts. Let’s cut the bullshit for a minute, shall we? Pacquiao draws a crowd and gets the ratings and money for those who want it most. With every punch he throws he hits his opponent, at least according to the HBO commentators anyway. Bradley did do a bang up job in moving his head and avoiding several of Pacquiao’s punches. The whole fight was sloppy at best and the thought of them doing it again should make anyone’s stomach curdle a little. No thanks.
Now congratulations should solidly be extended to Timothy Bradley. The decision in his fight against Manny Pacquiao was in no way his fault. He’s a boxer and won a Championship. It’s just that simple. He’s trained and worked so hard his entire life to get to this point only to have it belittled and questioned repeatedly. This isn’t to say that there aren’t some valid assumptions and viewpoints surrounding what happened. Yet Bradley shouldn’t be the one to have to answer to anyone. It’s so easy for us to sit back as armchair boxers and say this and that about fighters. Tell me, would you be willing to give up a Championship title that you worked your whole life for because of someone else’s errors in judgment? Maybe to Bradley he did win the bout? The judges have already been looked into and they’re not budging so as it stands he did. Case closed. But HBO is probably frothing at the mouth at a potential rematch where Pacquiao rises from the ashes like the proverbial Filipino phoenix to reclaim his title in dramatic fashion from the antagonist Bradley. It plays out like the low budget melodrama that no one wants to see. Bradley should fight other top fighters in the division and leave Pacquiao to Mayweather (won’t happen). That would be the true test of not only his skills in the ring but prove as a validation of his current Championship standing.
The clip on YouTube is called “Boxing: A Tale Of HBO Nuthuggery,” and if not anything else it is a little eye-opening, though at times it can become annoying as well. Look it up (*or view it above on this page). Take it for what it’s worth. At least someone had the nerve to mention something that we have all known for far too long, and that is when HBO airs a fight and one of their darlings is fighting expect the bullshit to fly. In fact, sometimes it gets so thick that you need to keep your boots on. “Yes men” work for the networks for a reason. They don’t ask questions, don’t really care about the sport or its competitors (outside of using the boxers accomplishments to further their own analytic hyperbole), and pervert the sport with their incessant bias and almost legally blind boxing breakdown. No one is perfect but you would expect the egos at HBO to get it right at least some of the time. Trainer Emeritus Emanuel Steward is the only credible person on any one of their broadcasts, and with the exception of the occasional boxer here and there, such as either Roy Jones, Jr. 55-8 (40) or Lennox “The Lion” Lewis 41-2-1 (32), their ranks are filled with drunks, women abusers, failed rappers and blind old men who never fought a day in their life. The network has their hands so far up these guys’ asses that all they can taste anymore is Vaseline. Open your eyes people. Save our sport.
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Victor Ortiz made the right call in pulling out against Lopez. It could’ve affected his career long term
June 27th, 2012
By Dominic Sauboorah: Many have slated Victor Ortiz for having no heart and a lack of courage after he quit against Josesito Lopez due to a complaint of a broken jaw, however I believe this to be unfair.
With all the training and preparation that goes into a fight, including the fight itself, it is very unorthodox for an average person to question a boxer’s heart.
Ortiz sustained the injury when a massive left hook crashed against his jaw. You could automatically tell that the punch affected him, due to the fact that he kept his mouth open for the rest of the round. He then went back to his corner with his mouth still open. After a lengthy discussion Ortiz’s corner decided to pull their man out of there and Ortiz agreed with the decision. Despite the fact that Lopez was landing good combinations Ortiz was definitely ahead on points thereby showing that he wasn’t outclassed by the underdog in any sense.
The one thing that did surprise me however was his post fight reaction to him losing the fight. He graciously decided to congratulate Lopez on his victory although when Showtime went into the ring to interview him he was laughing and smiling, as if he didn’t care. He showed a similar attitude after he was sucker punched by Floyd Mayweather in his last fight.
Obviously this is another huge blip in Victor Ortiz’s career. His heart was questioned after he decided to quit against Marcos Maidana and now he’s quit again. I believe that his courage shouldn’t be judged after this defeat simply due to the fact that there was an injury involved. Ortiz was aware that he was taking a fair bit of leather from Lopez and if that continued to be the case in the last 3 rounds his jaw could’ve been permanently damaged, thereby ending his career. Many people forget that this man is only 25, he has many years left in him and he was fighting an opponent that was seen as a stepping stone to greater things such as a possible bout against Saul Alvarez.
I see it as fair that people are condoning what Ortiz did, considering his history in boxing. Nevertheless to question his heart is ridiculous. To carry on boxing with a suspected broken jaw knowing that you could make the injury worse or even permanent is a sign of stupidity. To quit on your stool in front of millions of people knowing that they will most likely judge and accuse you is a sign of bravery. Other boxers might have carried on but I guarantee that all other people, that aren’t boxers, that accused Victor Ortiz of being a coward would’ve done exactly the same thing.
June 27th, 2012
By Dominic Sauboorah: Many have slated Victor Ortiz for having no heart and a lack of courage after he quit against Josesito Lopez due to a complaint of a broken jaw, however I believe this to be unfair.
With all the training and preparation that goes into a fight, including the fight itself, it is very unorthodox for an average person to question a boxer’s heart.
Ortiz sustained the injury when a massive left hook crashed against his jaw. You could automatically tell that the punch affected him, due to the fact that he kept his mouth open for the rest of the round. He then went back to his corner with his mouth still open. After a lengthy discussion Ortiz’s corner decided to pull their man out of there and Ortiz agreed with the decision. Despite the fact that Lopez was landing good combinations Ortiz was definitely ahead on points thereby showing that he wasn’t outclassed by the underdog in any sense.
The one thing that did surprise me however was his post fight reaction to him losing the fight. He graciously decided to congratulate Lopez on his victory although when Showtime went into the ring to interview him he was laughing and smiling, as if he didn’t care. He showed a similar attitude after he was sucker punched by Floyd Mayweather in his last fight.
Obviously this is another huge blip in Victor Ortiz’s career. His heart was questioned after he decided to quit against Marcos Maidana and now he’s quit again. I believe that his courage shouldn’t be judged after this defeat simply due to the fact that there was an injury involved. Ortiz was aware that he was taking a fair bit of leather from Lopez and if that continued to be the case in the last 3 rounds his jaw could’ve been permanently damaged, thereby ending his career. Many people forget that this man is only 25, he has many years left in him and he was fighting an opponent that was seen as a stepping stone to greater things such as a possible bout against Saul Alvarez.
I see it as fair that people are condoning what Ortiz did, considering his history in boxing. Nevertheless to question his heart is ridiculous. To carry on boxing with a suspected broken jaw knowing that you could make the injury worse or even permanent is a sign of stupidity. To quit on your stool in front of millions of people knowing that they will most likely judge and accuse you is a sign of bravery. Other boxers might have carried on but I guarantee that all other people, that aren’t boxers, that accused Victor Ortiz of being a coward would’ve done exactly the same thing.
any guesses as to if floyd will fight this year or not?
I'm on my phone but an article is on boxingscene where Pacquiao has ordered bob arum to make a fight with mayweather ASAP. arum however told Pacquiao mayweather will not fight this year and instead wants pac to fight someone else in Nov, then make a two fight deal with Floyd for 2013.
I'm on my phone but an article is on boxingscene where Pacquiao has ordered bob arum to make a fight with mayweather ASAP. arum however told Pacquiao mayweather will not fight this year and instead wants pac to fight someone else in Nov, then make a two fight deal with Floyd for 2013.
They talk about fighting Mayweather after every fight since 2009, but yet they always have a excuse to duck out and fight another in-house Top Rank fight. He's should've taken that $40 million or the 50/50 split with 14-day no test window. Now catch weight Manny is left out in the cold with only Bradley or Marquez to fight.