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Coach E. No

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I'm not sure if there has been a thread for this and obviously it doesn't change too often but seems like this is a constant discussion amongst fans. I don't follow MMA closely enough to have input on a list but here's ESPN's rankings for boxing

ESPNs top 10 as of today:

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Sergio Martinez
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Guillermo Rigondeaux
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. Nonito Donaire
9. Timothy Bradley Jr.
10. Carl Froch
 

Coach E. No

Jesus es Numero Uno
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I can't really get behind Froch being that high. Also I'd say Pacquiao is still higher than Rigondeaux. I think I Agree with ESPN's rankings other than Ward not being at the top.
 
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1.Floyd Mayweather
2.Andre Ward
3.Juan Manuel Marquez
4.Sergio Martinez
5.Wladimir Klitschko
6.Saul Canelo Alvarez
7.Guillermo Rigondeaux
8.Timothy Bradley
9.Robert Guerrero
10.Adrien Broner
 

CZAR

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1.marquez
2.canelo
3.chavez jr
4.mikey garcia
5.guerrero
6.rios
7.the mexican that just beat brian viloria
8.mares
9.molina
10. De leon
Bwahahahahahahhahahaha! Thats the worst raking list Ive seen in my life...

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Timothy Bradley
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Adrien Broner
9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
10. Nonito Donaire

Got Em!!
 
Feb 10, 2006
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ESPN's list is the best. To add Canelo or Broner is a joke. Take away Froch and add Trout. Noone can rank MMA cuz there's always a loser, not a winner if that makes sense. Only GSP and Silva can be on the list.
 
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Props: Coach E. No
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UFC.com official P4P rankings (Will only ever include UFC contracted fighters)

1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Georges St-Pierre
4. Jose Aldo
5. Benson Henderson
6. Cain Velasquez
7. Demetrious Johnson
8. Renan Barao
9. Dominick Cruz
10. Frankie Edgar

Sherdog.com P4P rankings

1. Anderson Silva
2. Georges St. Pierre
3. Jon Jones
4. Jose Aldo
5. Benson Henderson
6. Gilbert Melendez
7. Cain Velasquez
8. Demetrius Johnson
9. Joseph Benavidez
10. Renan Barao

ESPN.com P4P Power Rankings

1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Georges St. Pierre
4. Jose Aldo
5. Benson Henderson
6. Cain Velasquez
7. Demetrius Johnson
8. Renan Barao
9. Dominick Cruz
10. Frankie Edgar
 
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1. Anderson Silva
2. GSP
3. Cain Velasquez
4. Jon Jones
5. Benson Henderosn
6. Jose Aldo
7. Renan Barao (prob deserves to be higher)
8. Anthony Pettis
9. Daniel Cormier
10. Luke Rockhold
 
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I've lost all respect for The Ring's ratings.

Ring Ratings Update

Pound-for-pound rankings: There was some discussion
by the Panel regarding Rigondeaux’s pound-for-pound
placement following his victory over Donaire, who was No.
5 in the mythical ratings going into their showdown.

Some felt that Rigondeaux should enter the pound-for-pound rankings based on his strong performance against
Donaire, and the fact that he beat an elite fighter in only
his 12th pro bout. These Panelists looked at the pound-for-pound rankings of Adrien Broner, Robert Guerrero and
Timothy Bradley, and suggested that Rigondeaux could
replace either one, entering the list anywhere from No. 8 to
No. 10.

However, the Editorial Board decided against ranking
Rigondeaux in the pound-for-pound top 10 at the present
time, which in no way is meant to dismiss the Cuban
amateur legend. Rigondeaux has proven to be the best
122-pound boxer in the world, however, the other fighters
in the pound-for-pound top 10 have proven themselves in
multiple weight classes.

Both Broner and Guerrero have fights scheduled with
pound-for-pound implications. Guerrero faces pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather next month. Broner, the
magazine's No. 1-rated lightweight, challenges
welterweight titleholder Paul Malignaggi in June.

Bradley is coming off a tough fight against a fighter most
expected him to dominate, but the two-division titleholder
is undefeated and he does own a victory over Manny
Pacquiao, however controversial it may have been.

The Editorial Board and the Panel will revisit the argument
to rate Rigondeaux in THE RING’s pound-for-pound
rankings after Mayweather-Guerrero, and if need be after
Malignaggi-Broner or after Rigondeaux’s next fight.

If the class he exhibited during the Donaire fight is any
indication of his potential it’s only a matter of time before
the savvy southpaw breaks into the mythical rankings.

In the meantime, Donaire, who performed poorly against
Rigondeaux, drops to the No. 10 spot on the pound-for-pound list.

There was a discussion among the Editorial Board to
replace Donaire with Rigondeaux – or perhaps another
accomplished ultra-talent, such as undefeated WBA junior
flyweight titleholder Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez – but
it was decided to keep the 30-year-old veteran, who had a
banner year iin 2012, on the list.

The loss to Rigondeaux was Donaire’s first in 12 years. In
that time, he’s won major titles at flyweight (by knocking
out then-undefeated and pound-for-pound-rated Vic
Darchinyan), bantamweight (by knocking out then-pound-for-pound-rated Fernando Montiel) and junior
featherweight, where he unified two major belts and
earned THE RING title.
 
Props: Coach E. No
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Bwahahahahahahhahahaha! Thats the worst raking list Ive seen in my life...

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Timothy Bradley
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Adrien Broner
9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
10. Nonito Donaire

Got Em!!
4 or maybe 5 of those guyz would beat broner and my 10 pick already did. Quit hating lol
 
May 13, 2002
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2-0-Sixx @2-0-Sixx why did u lose respect tho
They have Broner ranked #5 after only beating Rees and Demarco. Rigondeaux just schooled a top 5 pound for pound fighter and 2012's fighter of the year and he doesn't even crack the top ten.

But I found out only ONE guy at the Ring makes the pound for pound list. This differs from the past as it was a accumulation of dozens and dozens of boxing writers and experts. They even admit those panelists don't have Broner in the top ten, but since now one single guy has authority their credentials went out the window. They go on to say the reasoning is that Broner has a fight SCHEDULED and so does Guerrero, both of course are Golden Boy fighters. I guess its a better selling point to say Mayweather is fighting a top pound 4 pound fighter and Broner is #5 by excluding Rigondeaux all together!


Fortunately their individual division rankings are still done the old way and are based on an accumulation of votes that determine their top ten per division, so the division rankings are still pretty legit.
 
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CZAR

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4 or maybe 5 of those guyz would beat broner and my 10 pick already did. Quit hating lol
Last time I checked Broner still had his zero lol. Try again homie. I agree with The Rings rankings but had Broner just a bit lower but obviously they see what i see in him. Got Em!!

Here mine.

1.ward
2.floyd
3.sergio
4.marquez
5.wlad
6.manny
7.rigo
8.Nonito
9.mares
10. B-hop/ canelo if he wins this saturday
This is much better but not perfect. U dont rank someone on "if" they win lol. Got Em!!
 
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