Mayweather vs Pacquiao May 2nd [official]

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So what's gonna happen to Floyd next? Who will he fight next? No one cares because everyone is looking forward for Canelo vs anyone! So much for being the greatest boxer in the world
Haha...the question for YOU battle...is who is Pacquiao gonna fight next...you don't even care hunh? The Floyd bandwagon chasing is over with for Manny...he is now going the route of Mike Tyson...explosive style...gets KO'd Buster Douglas/ Juan Manuel Marquez...gets some easy match ups to make him look like a world beater...then runs into a pure boxer...Holyfield/ Mayweather...who then proceeds to jab him and tie him up inclose...if Pacquaio stays at 147lbs and fights a rising star in the sport he's gonna go down crashing like Iron Mike.
 
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Haha...the question for YOU battle...is who is Pacquiao gonna fight next...you don't even care hunh? The Floyd bandwagon chasing is over with for Manny...he is now going the route of Mike Tyson...explosive style...gets KO'd Buster Douglas/ Juan Manuel Marquez...gets some easy match ups to make him look like a world beater...then runs into a pure boxer...Holyfield/ Mayweather...who then proceeds to jab him and tie him up inclose...if Pacquaio stays at 147lbs and fights a rising star in the sport he's gonna go down crashing like Iron Mike.
In defense of Mike I have two things to say. Ruddock and Bruno were not slouches and I think Ruddock took a lot out of Mike. The second thing is Mike would have lost to anyone that night (no training, life in turmoil) and Buster would have beaten anyone that night as he had nothing to lose (moms just died, mother of his kids terminally ill.)

But I do get what you're saying. But the thing is, this all goes back to the Bradley fight. Watch the liar manny smile when interviewed. This man's heart is not in it. When Tyson knew his heart wasn't in it he left the sport. Manny should look in the mirror, look in his wife's eyes, sit his children down and tell them that he has to retire.
 
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The Bay Area @The Bay Area I agree with HERESY @HERESY . Manny should retire. The fighters I would like to see him fight are all under Haymon so I won't even drift into that. But I've always said this, BOTH fighters should retire once this fight gets done no matter who wins because it's time to watch the new generation of fighters grow.
 
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. This man's heart is not in it. When Tyson knew his heart wasn't in it he left the sport. Manny should look in the mirror, look in his wife's eyes, sit his children down and tell them that he has to retire.
No he didn't. Tyson has said a million times that he was only fighting for money, even the Lennox Lewis fight he said that he knew "he'd get his ass kicked". He kept fighting for paydays. Eventually after so many embarrassing losses to bums like Danny Williams and Kevin McBride that he finally retired. So by your logic Tyson was a liar too (well everyone knows that). Pretty much all fighters past their primes are liars because we've seen the sad story of guys fighting well past their sell dates just for paychecks for over a hundred years.

If we compare the careers and resumes of the two Pacquiao accomplished a lot more and beat better opponents. I absolutely love Mike Tyson and he's probably the reason I'm a fan today but his resume isn't even hall of fame worthy, it actually is pretty damn weak. A lot of boxing historians don't rank Tyson as a top 100 fighter of all time, and for good reasons. He was an awesome beast in his prime of course but he never beat an elite fighter. Not once. He gets tons of props for unifying all the heavyweight belts and doing it so quickly, at such a young age but it was against shitty opponents and it went all downhill from there. Pacquiao on the other hand was a champion for over a decade and beat elite, hall of fame and all time great fighters. I agree he should retire, but as long as he has his health I can't blame a man for not walking away from $15m-$20m paydays or more.
 
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No he didn't. Tyson has said a million times that he was only fighting for money, even the Lennox Lewis fight he said that he knew "he'd get his ass kicked". He kept fighting for paydays. Eventually after so many embarrassing losses to bums like Danny Williams and Kevin McBride that he finally retired. So by your logic Tyson was a liar too (well everyone knows that). Pretty much all fighters past their primes are liars because we've seen the sad story of guys fighting well past their sell dates just for paychecks for over a hundred years.

If we compare the careers and resumes of the two Pacquiao accomplished a lot more and beat better opponents. I absolutely love Mike Tyson and he's probably the reason I'm a fan today but his resume isn't even hall of fame worthy, it actually is pretty damn weak. A lot of boxing historians don't rank Tyson as a top 100 fighter of all time, and for good reasons. He was an awesome beast in his prime of course but he never beat an elite fighter. Not once. He gets tons of props for unifying all the heavyweight belts and doing it so quickly, at such a young age but it was against shitty opponents and it went all downhill from there. Pacquiao on the other hand was a champion for over a decade and beat elite, hall of fame and all time great fighters. I agree he should retire, but as long as he has his health I can't blame a man for not walking away from $15m-$20m paydays or more.
Mike had the guts to go on national TV, say his heart wasn't in it, say he is losing to weak opponents and NEVER climbed back in the ring. Tyson's back was broken yet he went in the ring to fight. Stop defending manny.

And this talk about what a lot of boxing historians do? Who are "a lot of these historians?" Tyson against shitty opponents? There is a thread on boxing scene about tysons resume and one guy went in depth. Who are these shitty opponents you speak of? The man is in the record books for unifying the titles and is the youngest HW champ. So stop shitting on Tyson so you could prop up the lying and possible steroid user Manny. Tyson had his career basically railroaded. Cus died. Don King. Robin Givens. Convicted of rape in which he was defended by a TAX lawyer and here it is you are going to make it seem like all he did was fight bums and that manny is this great boxing God? So, knowing this to be true, can you really compare the two? Hell no. A prime and disciplined Mike beats everyone but this isn't anout Mike vs a Manny in the case of their resumes so I don't even know why you mentioned it. Why did you mention it? Oh because you don't want to accept the truth. The truth being that Manny is a liar, had no gameplan against Floyd, has not been in it since the Bradley fight and needs to retire. So yeah, focus on that instead of the resumes because that's not what this is about. And I will say this, Tyson was a draw no matter who he fought.
 
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Lol man I know all about Tyson, all the excuses as to why he lost and was never the same. That doesn't change the fact he never beat an elite fighter in their primes. It's the truth man, I don't have to make anything up just look at his resume yourself. It's weak. Like I said, he gets props for unifying the division, that is his accomplishment. After that he did very little of note. The reason I compared their resumes is because who cares if Tyson quit on camera (even though he admitted he was done before) and walked away after getting embarrassed? Like what relevance does that have to someone who accomplished far more than him? Nothing. For every legend that quit and actually walked away there is 50 more that made excuses and kept going. They all do it, Tyson did too (lol he said he had a broken back in a fight as an excuse!).

I agreed with you bro that Manny should hang them up, but using Tyson as an example who made a fool out of himself, something he admits to constantly, and did anything for money isn't a good example at all. Especially since you said "when Tysons heart wasn't in it he walked away" because we know 100% fact he fought for years without his heart being in. Tyson tells us that himself. He was just fighting for the money the last couple years.

Don't get me twisted though, I loved watching Tyson fight and still watch his fights to this day, it's just you were wrong about him walking away. It's also BS to shit on Pacquiao's entire career accomplishments because he hasn't been as good the last few years of his career. Fighters decline, that's life.
 
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Lol man I know all about Tyson, all the excuses as to why he lost and was never the same. That doesn't change the fact he never beat an elite fighter in their primes. It's the truth man, I don't have to make anything up just look at his resume yourself. It's weak. Like I said, he gets props for unifying the division, that is his accomplishment. After that he did very little of note. The reason I compared their resumes is because who cares if Tyson quit on camera (even though he admitted he was done before) and walked away after getting embarrassed? Like what relevance does that have to someone who accomplished far more than him? Nothing. For every legend that quit and actually walked away there is 50 more that made excuses and kept going. They all do it, Tyson did too (lol he said he had a broken back in a fight as an excuse!).

I agreed with you bro that Manny should hang them up, but using Tyson as an example who made a fool out of himself, something he admits to constantly, and did anything for money isn't a good example at all. Especially since you said "when Tysons heart wasn't in it he walked away" because we know 100% fact he fought for years without his heart being in. Tyson tells us that himself. He was just fighting for the money the last couple years.

Don't get me twisted though, I loved watching Tyson fight and still watch his fights to this day, it's just you were wrong about him walking away. It's also BS to shit on Pacquiao's entire career accomplishments because he hasn't been as good the last few years of his career. Fighters decline, that's life.
I didn't introduce Tyson to the thread. And even if I did, his accomplishments and him beating or never beating an elite fighter in their prime means what? What does that have to do with Manny being a liar, being exposed and leading his friends to doom?

Again, I wasn't the one who introduced Tyson to the thread but at least he had enough balls to tell the truth. He was forthcoming but Manny has pretty much been lying all these years. I tried to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, I defended him day in and day out here and tried to remain as neutral as I could but the man has shown me he is a liar. Arum, Roach and Manny are the unholy trinity of boxing. Wake up bro , you admit manny should retire but call this shit down the middle like I am.
 
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You said something about Tyson that simply wasn't true, that's why I commented. You still can't acknowledge that Tyson was "lying" himself even though Tyson publicly stated numerous times his heart being wasn't in boxing and he was only in it for the money. This is coming from the man himself. So if you're going to blast Pacquiao for not being as good as he once was and still fighting, you can't use Tyson here since he was doing far worse. All the shit he talked about Lennox Lewis, all of his antics, Tyson admitted he did just to sell the fight and he knew he would get his ass kicked. He fooled people in believing he was back and he'd put up a fight, but he barely showed up for the paycheck.Tyson has even said he was high on drugs for some of his fights later in his career and using a whizzer for passing piss tests, he said he was doing a ton of coke during the Lewis press conferences and during training for Lewis. So again use a better example.
 

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You said something about Tyson that simply wasn't true, that's why I commented. You still can't acknowledge that Tyson was "lying" himself even though Tyson publicly stated numerous times his heart being wasn't in boxing and he was only in it for the money. This is coming from the man himself. So if you're going to blast Pacquiao for not being as good as he once was and still fighting, you can't use Tyson here since he was doing far worse. All the shit he talked about Lennox Lewis, all of his antics, Tyson admitted he did just to sell the fight and he knew he would get his ass kicked. He fooled people in believing he was back and he'd put up a fight, but he barely showed up for the paycheck.Tyson has even said he was high on drugs for some of his fights later in his career and using a whizzer for passing piss tests, he said he was doing a ton of coke during the Lewis press conferences and during training for Lewis. So again use a better example.
Tyson said shit like that while he was still fighting. At least he said it while he was boxing. Manny, on the other hand, has conned people left and right. And see, you are admitting the mans life was in turmoil. A champion on coke, sex addict, broken back, convicted of a rape he did not do and defended by a tax lawyer, robbed of $300 million and everyone around him that had a sense of stability gone, by the way he was a young black male when all of this shit happened. These are not excuses but facts. Then you have Manny, all of a sudden he is super Christian and doesn't want to fight, is constantly having floyds name in his mouth, lied about signing contracts, comes to the ring taking selfies, gets in the ring and becomes a D level fighter. Ghost outperformed Pac, wtf?

And for the second post, it is not my example as I did not introduce Tyson to the thread.
 
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I agree Christianity was the demise of Pacquiao, much like it was the demise of humanity. All praise be to Allah I'm gonna eat his children. Believing in the great lie in Jesus taught Pacquiao to be a liar.

Pretty sure Roach took a selfie though, Manny had gloves on.
 

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I agree Christianity was the demise of Pacquiao, much like it was the demise of humanity. All praise be to Allah I'm gonna eat his children. Believing in the great lie in Jesus taught Pacquiao to be a liar.

Pretty sure Roach took a selfie though, Manny had gloves on.
Whoever took the selfie, fact is Pac agreed to the shit and was smiling like an idiot.

And Christianity has caused a lot of problems no argument here. But like I said, Arum, Roach and Pac are the unholy trinity of boxing.
 
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Pac is just a fighter and Roach a trainer. Certainly would put the WBC and WBA amongst the top of evilness, they are the ones that don't enforce rules, create millions of belts, make up rules whenever they feel like it, play favorites with certain fighters/promoters, etc etc etc. Pac lost a fight and should retire, wow so unholy!
 
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Staggering numbers.....



Mayweather, Pacquiao Head Highest Paid Athletes List


By Jake Donovan

The 12 rounds of boxing that took place in the ring remain largely forgettable, but the massive money grab executed by Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao continues to shatter financial records.

Both fighters landed in the top spots of Forbes' annual World's Highest-Paid Athletes list . Additionally, the event is expected to top out at around $600 million, the amount good for highest-grossing single-day sporting event in history according to the publication .

The total take from the May 2 event at MGM Grand in Las Vegas eclipses the $500 million in revenue generated by Super Bowl XLIX earlier this year.

The numbers continue to justify the inconvenience of all parties setting aside their massive egos in order to make the fight happen. The bout was first heavily discussed in late 2009, following Mayweather's return to the ring after a 21-month hiatus and Pacquiao's welterweight title winning effort over Miguel Cotto.

More than five years of posturing, accusations and mud slinging came about, but the two camps finally locked themselves in a room to make the fight happen this year. It was never easy, and often required the intervention of CBS Corporation CEO Leslie Moonves in order to keep all parties on track.

Once the opening bell sounded, fans were naturally let down. Mayweather cruised to a landslide win, with controversy stemming from Pacquiao failing to disclose a recurring shoulder injury he allegedly reportedly reaggravated during training camp roughly three weeks prior to fight night.

What remains without dispute is the exceedinly high bar set by the financially record-breaking event. Mayweather earned $300 million in ring purses and endorsements over the past 12 months, the most any athlete has ever earned in a single year. Maintaining his place atop the list, the unbeaten pound-for-pound king amassed $285 million in ring earnings, with another $15 million in endorsements, whereas past revenue was entirely generated in the ring.

Of the $300 Mayweather earned in the past 12 months, 80% came from the May 2 fight alone. Once all receipts are calculated, the unbeaten World welterweight and junior middleweight champion will clear $240 million, also a record for a single event.

“Floyd Mayweather just pulled off the biggest score in the history of sports and entertainment,” Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe told Forbes’ Kurt Badenhausen.

The rest of Mayweather’s annual tally stems from his lone other fight in the past 12 months, a 12-round win over Marcos Maiden in their rematch last September in Las Vegas.

Mayweather tops Forbes’ Highest Paid Athletes list for the second year in a row, and third time overall.

Pacqauiao landed a distant second, although his $160 million take puts him far ahead of the rest of the field. The next highest grossing athlete over the past 12 months was renowned football (soccer to those in the United States) star Cristian Ronaldo, who earned $79.6 million on the year.

The top 100 athletes on the list earned $3.2 billion in salary and endorsements, up 17% from last year’s field.

As for Mayweather-Pacquiao, the revenue records set will likely never be broken. According to Forbes, the totals (some final, others estimated) are as follows:
$73 million in ticket sales, destroying the $20 million live gate for Mayweather’s 12-round win over Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez in 2013
$13 million in sponsorship
$35 million in foreign TV rights, though Forbes estimates the amount will land closer to $50 million once all final receipts are tallied
$430 million in domestic Pay-Per-View revenue, nearly tripling the $150 million take from Mayweather-Alvarez
Mayweather (48-0, 26KOs) is due to return to the ring on September 12. His promotional company formally submitted a request to promote the event at MGM Grand in Las Vegas, which has hosted his last 11 fights and 14 overall among his Hall of Fame career. The Nevada State Athletic Commission will likely approve the request during its monthly agenda hearing, which takes place Thursday in Las Vegas.

The September 12 fight has been suggested to be the last of Mayweather's career, though few in the industry believe that will be the case. It will serve as the last of a six-fight record-breaking deal he signed with Showtime in 2013, having fought May and September on Pay-Per-View each year after signing with the cable network.

As for Pacquiao (57-6-2, 38KOs), rest and rehabiliation are in his future. The wildly popular Filipino superstar remains on the mend following shoulder surgery, and is likely out for the rest of the year. A ring return is targeted for next spring, which could be anything from a tune-up, to living up promoter Bob Arum's longtime dream of staging an event in Dubai, to a lucrative rematch with Mayweather.

With nothing set in place for either fighter in the immediate future, plenty of time exists for the world's two highest paid athletes to sit back and count their hundreds of millions of dollars.
 
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Pacquiao is still the most exciting boxer to watch. Why should he retire? He can still beat any welterweight. I think he did beat Floyd. But ofcourse I'm the only one. Yall should watch the fight again on mute cuz the commentators were sucking Floyds cock the whole fight. Just like most of u fags on here shitting on Pac and compubox was as accurate as a Shaq Oneal free throw. If u think Floyd landed more punches then u probably give oral to men from the back
 
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Pacquiao is still the most exciting boxer to watch. Why should he retire? He can still beat any welterweight. I think he did beat Floyd. But ofcourse I'm the only one. Yall should watch the fight again on mute cuz the commentators were sucking Floyds cock the whole fight. Just like most of u fags on here shitting on Pac and compubox was as accurate as a Shaq Oneal free throw. If u think Floyd landed more punches then u probably give oral to men from the back
Lemme guess, you're filipino huh.......Floyd clearly outboxed him, if you cant see that then you dont know shit about boxing like Floyd told Larry Merchant
 
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Pacquiao is still the most exciting boxer to watch. Why should he retire? He can still beat any welterweight. I think he did beat Floyd. But ofcourse I'm the only one. Yall should watch the fight again on mute cuz the commentators were sucking Floyds cock the whole fight. Just like most of u fags on here shitting on Pac and compubox was as accurate as a Shaq Oneal free throw. If u think Floyd landed more punches then u probably give oral to men from the back
I saw it in Polish, along with my gf who hasnt watched a fight since roy jones was in his prime. we both came to the same conclusion that Floyd won. You are my guy, but get over it bro.
Nobody in here is shitting on him, we all pretty much can agree that he lost his edge, his killer instinct once he became a Christian. It happens. But I dont need compubox to tell me who won that fight. This fight however does not takeaway from pac's career imo