Manny Pacquiao has TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED ME

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i think he is referring to his new deal with Top Rank for the next 2 years
It's kinda hard to be disappointed without knowing the details of the contract, imo. How much millions his guarantees are, etc.

Good news is Bob Arum and Oscar both announced the cold war is over. Arum talking about Pacquiao vs Amir Khan, Shawn Porter, etc.

 

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It's kinda hard to be disappointed without knowing the details of the contract, imo. How much millions his guarantees are, etc.

Good news is Bob Arum and Oscar both announced the cold war is over. Arum talking about Pacquiao vs Amir Khan, Shawn Porter, etc.

That's what I was thinking? Were people expecting him to leave and sign with Haymon etc...?

DLH has always wanted Pacquiao, since before he got really famous in the states. I don't know how it'll work since Haymon is involved with virtually every heavy hitter from 140-147 but allegedly they have discussed GB opponents for Marquez as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see Schaefer get ousted over this and to see GB still work with Haymon.

Haymon and Schaefer have the know how, but I'm not sure how much money they're really playing with. Right now, they have the perfect situation with the name and risk being more on DLH than themselves. They are taking way more risk by starting their own promotional firm if they do and Haymon wouldn't be able to get away with calling himself an advisor anymore, which is b.s. to begin with. He's a manager, straight up.
 
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Pacquiao could have done what Cotto is doing but apparently hes lost without that scumbag Arum
Cotto is trying to run his lil Cotto Promotions company but he's still fighting with Top Rank to promote for now. It all comes down to what guarantee money TR offered pacquiao, without knowing t that can't say it's a good or bad deal. If they guarantee him some astronomical numbers obviously that's good for him. Like Floyd signing a 6 fight deal with Showtime was good for Floyd since its guaranteed money regardless of how his PPVs do.
 

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Cotto also has more options right now as far as opponent selection at 154 and 160. Unless Pacquiao flat out left Arum, which he's said for years and said multiple times he wouldn't do so, he is probably making a hefty sum for what could be pretty smooth sailing. If he did go to Golden Boy, they have an extremely deep stable of fighters at 140 and 147, including some killers right now. Maybe he doesn't want to fight the Thurmans, Porters, Matthysse's and Garcias of the world anymore? All those guys with the exception of Lucas are quite a bit younger than him.
 
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If Oscar and Bob are buddies now those guys are options too, hence Amir Khan being talked about. I just hope JMM declines a fifth fight cus that's who they want the most next. JMM keeps saying he wants to walk away with that KO but the money keeps bringing him back so Im sure he'll give in.
 
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God DAMN!!! Bob Arum has got to think the public is stupid as fuck. Arum is always speaking on what he believes Floyd is thinking and going to do...(when really it's what he, Arum, wants to do)...this old ass mutha FUCKA ain't tryna make a May vs Pac fight (nobody wants to see May vs Pac 2016)...and neither is Mayweather trying to make the fight because he offered the fool, Pacquiao, $40 million and he turned it down so Floyd moved on saying FUCK PACQUIAO and FUCK ARUM...(in 2016 Pac will be a certified bum and Floyd will fight Canelo, or Thurman, or Porter, or Lara because all them will generate better PPV numbers than this steroid using mutha FUCKA) The only dumb fuck talking about this fight like it's gonna happen is this retarded old Man (Arum) who keeps dragging Manny back over seas on a failed event (I don't believe the up front money from the casinos is significant, because I don't believe Arum) His projections about Macau were HORRIBLY OFF THE MARK...

and Pacquiao who can't make a move to save his life...is waiting for Floyd to call his line (AGAIN) to ask about a fight WTF!?! This guy is the future president of a nation? Correction behind the scenes Arum will be Dick Channey and Pacquiao will be George Bush...master and puppet...along with these fuckin Pactards hollering and cheering.
 
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Exactly one day before he signed with Arum he was talking shit about Floyd.
Then when the Pacquiao fight over, Manny goes right back to being silent with no future preferences on who he fights...but leading up to his bout he's all happy to say Mayweather's name..."Yes I would like that fight, it's up to Floyd, I want to fight who wants to fight me." De La Hoya is a fuckin FOOL (in a good way)...what prevented dumb ass old ARLUME ARUM from making the Nonito Donaire vs Abner Mares fight when Golden Boy offered $3million for the fight...same thing that happened to the $40 million and BOTH Pacquiao and Nonito went on to lose afterwards...ain't karma ah bitch? The Cold War is ending because this OLD SHIT doesn't have anymore fighters so Oscar is moving in on Arum AGAIN...and this poor old muthafucka can't run anymore (if he could, he would).
 
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Are you serious? GB is hurting more cuz Showtime can't get the money nor the ratings to make any of their fighters bigger names. HBO debuted Canelo on a ppv, then 2 fights later gets it vs Floyd. Those 2 previous fights were promoted as PPV fights under Showtime. HBO made Broner the star and they were trying to make him fight Rios, but he ran thanx to Haymon then can't even make the fight vs Maidana a PPV either. HBO was on the verge of making Danny Garcia a star and Showtime still doesn't know what to do with him. GB has Keith Thurman. By now HBO would have made him face Malignaggi a year ago, then Broner. Bigger fights equals bigger stars equals more money. GGG vs Quillin would have already happened under HBO. Even GGG knows HBO has more money. Quillin hasn't even main evented yet! But HBO and TR suck?
 
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And what has Floyd said? That Pacquiao would have to so sign with TMT Promotions to fight him lol. Floyd Sr. saying the same shit that you say Arum is saying, he said his son will fight Pacquiao for his 50th and final fight.

So Anyways, Oscar and Bob want to work together again. Thats great for boxing. What's Floyd's excuse now if GB and TR work together? I think Floyd is happy fighting for $32 million dollars while his opponents make $1.5 million. Jeweather is too gready to fight a guy like Pacquiao where the split wouldn't be no 95/5 split.

Oscar owns Golden Boy. The problems have been Richard Schaefer vs Bob Arum. Richardkkeeps saying he will NOT work with Arum, but his boss is saying otherwise so either Schaefer will be gone or he'll have to change his tune cus at the end of the day it is Oscar's company. Now maybe Scheaefer and Haymon have some sort of secret plans of their own but that remains to be seen.
 
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I doubt it if Haymon is the issue, except whether or not he's contracted as advisor or manager. Oscar already came out saying Haymon is nothing to GBP, but he cares more for Schaefer and what he's been doing for the company, like contracting these fighters as GBP fighters. Oscar is gonna make sure Schaefer corrects his mistakes first then start making fights. Another problem is HBO vs Haymon. Haymon is gonna have to put his fighters into high risk fights, and Floyd's promo company. I don't think HBO minds him as long as they don't give them another Berto. HBO is lucky Broner and Stevenson left too
 
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God DAMN!!! Bob Arum has got to think the public is stupid as fuck. Arum is always speaking on what he believes Floyd is thinking and going to do...(when really it's what he, Arum, wants to do)...this old ass mutha FUCKA ain't tryna make a May vs Pac fight (nobody wants to see May vs Pac 2016)...and neither is Mayweather trying to make the fight because he offered the fool, Pacquiao, $40 million and he turned it down so Floyd moved on saying FUCK PACQUIAO and FUCK ARUM...(in 2016 Pac will be a certified bum and Floyd will fight Canelo, or Thurman, or Porter, or Lara because all them will generate better PPV numbers than this steroid using mutha FUCKA) The only dumb fuck talking about this fight like it's gonna happen is this retarded old Man (Arum) who keeps dragging Manny back over seas on a failed event (I don't believe the up front money from the casinos is significant, because I don't believe Arum) His projections about Macau were HORRIBLY OFF THE MARK...

and Pacquiao who can't make a move to save his life...is waiting for Floyd to call his line (AGAIN) to ask about a fight WTF!?! This guy is the future president of a nation? Correction behind the scenes Arum will be Dick Channey and Pacquiao will be George Bush...master and puppet...along with these fuckin Pactards hollering and cheering.
Everyone wants to see that fight. Be real. Those two assholes are keeping boxing alive. If they finally fight or both retire, there will be a lot less boxing fans. Nobody except for 206 and a couple of u guys on here will even care about boxing when those 2 are done fighting. I know I won't lol.
 

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And what has Floyd said? That Pacquiao would have to so sign with TMT Promotions to fight him lol. Floyd Sr. saying the same shit that you say Arum is saying, he said his son will fight Pacquiao for his 50th and final fight.

So Anyways, Oscar and Bob want to work together again. Thats great for boxing. What's Floyd's excuse now if GB and TR work together? I think Floyd is happy fighting for $32 million dollars while his opponents make $1.5 million. Jeweather is too gready to fight a guy like Pacquiao where the split wouldn't be no 95/5 split.

Oscar owns Golden Boy. The problems have been Richard Schaefer vs Bob Arum. Richardkkeeps saying he will NOT work with Arum, but his boss is saying otherwise so either Schaefer will be gone or he'll have to change his tune cus at the end of the day it is Oscar's company. Now maybe Scheaefer and Haymon have some sort of secret plans of their own but that remains to be seen.
I think that's becoming the school of thought for most people that really follow boxing. Schaefer might become the casualty in all of this. Haymon and Schaefer have these relationships with all these fighters and Schaefer is talking crap about how he does all the work. All of that may be true and yes he helped get GB off the ground, but it's still very hard to do all of that again. I seriously doubt that Schaefer wants to work for Mayweather full time and get paid pennies for all of his hard work.