Gennady Gennadyevich Golovkin vs Canelo Álvarez 9/16 [WBA, WBC, IBF, lineal title]

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Who wins this REAL fight?


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HERESY

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Whether or not they are hurting GGG, it will allow Canelo to "score" more power punches that can persuade the judges to give the rounds to Canelo. And that's why I say in a rematch Canelo wins easily. If he doesn't throw a monster counter, that's fine. Get your combos in and get out. Enough punches will get thrown that Canelo can actually stop GGG in a rematch.
Battle, GGG had like 654,834,566 jabs. You can't win a fight with just jabs and we all know whoever lands close to 50% of their power shots usually wins. How many times have you witnessed someone cut the ring off and back Canelo into a corner? Not many. So if you walk through his shots, cut the ring off and have him against the ropes, you throw. I'm not saying to punch yourself out but throw because you are going to land. What was the number 1 complaint people had about GGG for the fight? That when he had Canelo on the ropes he didn't throw.
 

HERESY

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Now that he has this draw on his record, you can look at his resume and we can argue, who has the better resume, Canelo or Floyd?
Why the FUCK would you argue about who has a better resume?

Look at how many HOF Floyd has beaten. Look at how many Canelo has. Look at when Floyd fought them and how he won compared to how Canelo did. For example, Floyd dismantles Mosley, some say he was past his prime. Canelo gets him when he is coming off TWO losses AND a draw and he couldn't body him. Not to mention it was TWO FUCKIN YEARS LATER.

LOL@comparing their resumes.
 
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Battle, GGG had like 654,834,566 jabs. You can't win a fight with just jabs and we all know whoever lands close to 50% of their power shots usually wins. How many times have you witnessed someone cut the ring off and back Canelo into a corner? Not many. So if you walk through his shots, cut the ring off and have him against the ropes, you throw. I'm not saying to punch yourself out but throw because you are going to land. What was the number 1 complaint people had about GGG for the fight? That when he had Canelo on the ropes he didn't throw.
Or maybe because Canelo's defense was pretty darn good Abel Sanchez told GGG to throw that right wide when Canelo is on the ropes because he was being repetitive and kept pivoting to Canelo's left. And what happened? Canelo was ducking them. They both did a great job in this fight. It was a great fight. Give them both props man.
 
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Why the FUCK would you argue about who has a better resume?

Look at how many HOF Floyd has beaten. Look at how many Canelo has. Look at when Floyd fought them and how he won compared to how Canelo did. For example, Floyd dismantles Mosley, some say he was past his prime. Canelo gets him when he is coming off TWO losses AND a draw and he couldn't body him. Not to mention it was TWO FUCKIN YEARS LATER.

LOL@comparing their resumes.
You know Mosley was 38 when they fought, right? And Canelo was good enough to get a Floyd fight at 22 years old. This fight vs GGG, whether young or old, GGG destroys them. GGG is till prime GGG. Canelo did better than Jacobs who is bigger than GGG! Canelo got a prime Floyd, prime Lara (which til this day is heavily feared), and now GGG-the most feared fighter in boxing. Canelo is only 26. His resume will be something else.
 

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You're fucking stupid. Canelo already has a loss on his record. He's just trying to give the fans what they want and for him win these fights. Now that he has this draw on his record, you can look at his resume and we can argue, who has the better resume, Canelo or Floyd? Canelo is hella young and these big fights win, lose or draw, will get him so much money. The next fighter people will want to see is a Charlo brother, a Jacobs, a Lemieux, etc. His resume will be insane. So no. I'm not butthurt because my opinion is just one. It's ultimately a draw on his record and it's not that arguable. He's gonna have to avenge it and that's that.
Floyd? What does the Goat got to do with this? Canelo didnt give the people shit! he ran all night! GGG asked him why he ran!! Canelo is a coward mexican fighter and shames the real tru brawling mexican fighters. Oh yea Floyd beat Canelo's ass so who cares about resumes lol. Got Em!!
 
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Floyd? What does the Goat got to do with this? Canelo didnt give the people shit! he ran all night! GGG asked him why he ran!! Canelo is a coward mexican fighter and shames the real tru brawling mexican fighters. Oh yea Floyd beat Canelo's ass so who cares about resumes lol. Got Em!!
Pretty shady to bring race/ethnicity/nationality into it, but that's what we would expect from a small minded individual. You think Canelo a coward then go handle that face to face with him, run up and show him you a man and what a coward he is. Please film it too, we need some classic material round hurr.
 
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HERESY

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Pretty shady to bring race/ethnicity/nationality into it, but that's what we would expect from a small minded individual. You think Canelo a coward then go handle that face to face with him, run up and show him you a man and what a coward he is. Please film it too, we need some classic material round hurr.
I don't think he meant it like that, fam. I think he meant it in the same fashion Canelo did when he said Chavez Jr wasn't a real Mexican fighter.
 
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Floyd? What does the Goat got to do with this? Canelo didnt give the people shit! he ran all night! GGG asked him why he ran!! Canelo is a coward mexican fighter and shames the real tru brawling mexican fighters. Oh yea Floyd beat Canelo's ass so who cares about resumes lol. Got Em!!
HERESY brought up Floyd, you agreed, I continued.

And you are no one to speak on "Mexican style." Please, he put GGG to shame if anything. Look at GGG's face after the fight! And look at Canelo's face after the Floyd fight. Shit, even after this fight! You can't do that type of damage by "running." It's known that Canelo fights and models himself to Ali. Canelo has said that himself. Mexican style is a made up term by GGG who didn't show none of that in this fight.
 
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Pretty shady to bring race/ethnicity/nationality into it, but that's what we would expect from a small minded individual. You think Canelo a coward then go handle that face to face with him, run up and show him you a man and what a coward he is. Please film it too, we need some classic material round hurr.
He's a troll, so of course he has balls to call someone a coward over the keyboard. Of course he would make race an issue. But that's when you know CZAR doesn't know shit about boxing.
 
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The replay of the fight tonight. First turn off HBO Max and Lampley acting like walking forward and missing punches = great work. Let's watch GGG follow Canelo around the ring unable to cut-off to save his life. Lets watch Canelo land all the clean hard shots all while making GGG miss 70% of his punches. Let's watch rounds 10-12 where you will see Canelo lite up GGG like a X-mas tree with clean hard punches. Watch rounds 10-12 and see how many times Canelo hurts GGG to the head and body. Now after you re-watch the fight please tell me what was GGG best rounds, what rounds are GGG landing clean hard punches, and please explain to me why GGG can only land a jab against Canelo and Jacobs?
 
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The replay of the fight tonight. First turn off HBO Max and Lampley acting like walking forward and missing punches = great work. Let's watch GGG follow Canelo around the ring unable to cut-off to save his life. Lets watch Canelo land all the clean hard shots all while making GGG miss 70% of his punches. Let's watch rounds 10-12 where you will see Canelo lite up GGG like a X-mas tree with clean hard punches. Watch rounds 10-12 and see how many times Canelo hurts GGG to the head and body. Now after you re-watch the fight please tell me what was GGG best rounds, what rounds are GGG landing clean hard punches, and please explain to me why GGG can only land a jab against Canelo and Jacobs?
You gonna see what u want to see. Others will see Golovkin on Canelo like white on rice for most of the fight (no cutting off the ring necessary) and a fatigued Canelo forced to fight at a tempo that he didn't want (Golovkin dictating the pace, Ring Generlship) and out working him. Sure Canelo dodges some punches but you don't win rounds by dodging punches while being out worked and forced to fight Golovkins style of fighting.

Give credit where it is due though - they both have excellent chins. Canelos hard shots didn't phase Golovkin or slow him down. Likewise, Golovkins heavy hands weren't enough to put Canelo down. These are two highly skilled fighters, if not, one would have got their ass kicked. It was also an excellent style matchup, which is exactly why people were excited in the first place.
 
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206-(no cutting off the ring necessary) and a fatigued Canelo forced to fight at a tempo that he didn't want (Golovkin dictating the pace, Ring Generalship) and out working him. Sure Canelo dodges some punches but you don't win rounds by dodging punches while being out worked and forced to fight Golovkins style of fighting.)

This is my problem with your statement. GGG didn't force Canelo to do anything in that fight. Canelo did anything he wanted to in that fight, landing all the big hard punch, Canelo was never forced to the rope he backed up to them himself and when he didn't want to be on the ropes he was on them. The fight was more about Canelo gassing for 5 rounds, because when he got his 2nd wind in the 10th, he lit up GGG at will. My point is Canelo landed all the clean hard power punches and at almost double the accuracy of GGG. For 7 rounds of the fight Canelo out boxed and outclassed GGG easily. GGG did nothing but walk forward and eat punches all night. No body punching, no power punching, no counter punching, no tempo, no pressure, no cutting off the ring it was just walk forward jab, jab, and eat Canelo's power punches. FYI, Canelo gasses in every fight even against bum ass Chavez Jr.

I know it's hard for people to admit that HBO has them gassed up over no defense can crashing brawlers, but for real from Chocolatito, Kovalev, and next GGG. All hyped up after beating no one of note 'well at least Kovalev beat a 50 year B-Hop', first time these guys start fighting elite boxers no more KO's and all their so-called P4P skills disappear. LOL Chocolatito vs. Sor Rungvisai first fight which team HBO called it a robbery, Kovalev vs. Ward 1 again HBO called it a robbery, and both times the so-called robbed fighter gets beat up and stopped in the rematch. GGG will be the next overhyped HBO fighter put to sleep. The last the rounds of the Canelo fight was brutal on GGG.

By the way who do you got against Lomo vs, Rigo? I think Lomo is too big for Rigo but Lomo will not be showboating against Rigo or he will pay for it.