Deontay Wilder 36(35)-0 vs Alexander Povetkin 30(22)-1, Moscow May 21st

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Who wins?

  • Wilder by decision

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  • Povetkin by decision

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Date: Saturday May 21
TV: Showtime (US)
BoxNation (UK)


Title: WBC heavyweight


Deontay Wilder USA
6′ 7″
83″ reach
228 pounds
Previous five fights: Szpilka KO9, Duhaupas TKO11, Molina KO9, Stiverne UD



Alexander Povetkin RUSSIA
6′ 2″
75″ reach
230 pounds
Previous five fights: Wach TKO12, Mike Perez TKO1, Carlos Takam KO10, Manuel Charr KO7, Klitschko UD Loss




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Synopsis: The WBC has mandated Wilder face heavy handed Russian heavyweight Alexander Povetkin in the biggest fight of his career. Wilder carries a size advantage, but does he have the experience to use it?
What to watch for: Can Wilder land his right hand? It’s clear that Povetkin is the more experience boxer with a more varied offense, but Wilder’s right hand is putting everybody to sleep. This will certainly be a don’t blink fight. A first round knockout is almost more believable than a 12 round decision for either guy.

Importance Rating: ✓✓✓✓✓ 5/5
Entertainment Rating: ✓✓✓✓ 4/5
 
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RM211

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this is tough, i picced Povetkin for the simple fact that they're fighting in Russia lol. Wilder has that reach but his chin is questionable(for a HW) Go with Povetkin duccing under a looping right hand to connect with a hook ala Tyson.
 
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Definitely an interesting fight. I think Wilder can absolutely fight a "stinker" type of fight and either decision Povetkin or catch him late if he has a big enough lead and Povetkin takes some risks.

Wilder recently though has let himself get clipped by guys not as good as Povetkin and definitely not as strong of punchers as him. I'm picking a Povetkin KO, but it should be a dope fight and don't think it's a given either way.
 
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omg NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







Povetkin Just Tested Positive on a Urine Test.
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Two sources with knowledge of test have told ESPN that Povetkin tested positive for meldonium with title fight vs Wilder a week away.
9:49 AM - 13 May 2016
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Dan Rafael ✔ ‎@danrafaelespn
Status of the #WilderPovetkin fight is unclear at the moment after Povetkin's positive test. #boxing
9:50 AM - 13 May 2016
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Dan Rafael ✔ ‎@danrafaelespn
Povetkin's positive test was in a VADA-conducted urine test. #boxing
9:51 AM - 13 May 2016
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Petr Shugurov ‎@GatecrasherUA
Ryabinskiy says Povetkin did take meldonium in September, but didn't take it after it was banned in January. I'm kinda speechless... #boxing
11:07 AM - 13 May 2016
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Jake Donovan ‎@JakeNDaBox_v2
WBC confirmed that positive test result was from 4/27, and that an investigation currently underway, announcement t/k. #WilderPovetkin
11:18 AM - 13 May 2016

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Petr Shugurov ‎@GatecrasherUA
Ryabinskiy says Povetkin did take meldonium in September, but didn't take it after it was banned in January. I'm kinda speechless... #boxing
11:07 AM - 13 May 2016
So this can actually be true. Here's an article from reuters,

Meldonium can take months to leave body, says drug maker | Reuters

"The drug that has produced more than 100 positive sports doping tests since being outlawed on Jan. 1 can take "several months" to completely leave the body, the manufacturer of meldonium told Reuters on Monday.

A number of athletes say they took the cardiac drug before it was banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).

Latvian manufacturer Grindeks said meldonium has a half-life of between four and six hours but "its terminal elimination from the body may last for several months" depending on factors such as dose, duration of treatment, and sensitivity of testing methods.

Meldonium has been in the spotlight since Russia's former world number one tennis player Maria Sharapova stunned the sporting world by announcing this month that she had failed a doping test for the drug after a loss to Serena Williams at this year's Australian Open.

At least 16 Russian sportsmen and women, including speed skating Olympic gold-medallist Semion Elistratov, have been caught using meldonium since the ban came into effect, along with dozens of competitors from other countries.

While the comments by Grindeks would appear to offer one reason why there have been so many positive tests for meldonium, WADA said athletes were made aware that the substance would be added to the banned list last October.

"The date an athlete sample is collected is the date any subsequent anti-doping rule violation is asserted to have taken place," a WADA spokesman said on Monday.

"At any hearing that follows, the onus is then on the athlete to explain how the substance was in his or her body.

"It is important to note that every year all stakeholders are advised on any changes to the Prohibited List three months before it enters into force which provides sufficient time to be educated on any changes to the list."

Sharapova, who is provisionally banned while the International Tennis Federation (ITF) investigates, said she had been taking the drug legally for 10 years for health reasons and had not realized it had been added to WADA's banned list.

Russia's four-times world champion swimmer Yulia Efimova also tested positive for meldonium, but said in an interview with Russia 24 on Monday she had never been informed it was banned.

"The last time I took meldonium was when it was still legal. I took it for medical reasons and read the instructions carefully," she said.

"Experts are now looking at how traces of meldonium could be in my sample months after I stopped taking it."

Four Russian track-and-field athletes have also tested positive, adding further scrutiny to a nation currently banned from international track-and-field competitions after last year's disclosures of widespread cheating and corruption.

Meldonium, marketed as Mildronate and a common medicine across eastern Europe, was developed to treat heart conditions such as angina. It was also used extensively for three decades to toughen up Soviet troops in action at high altitude.

WADA placed it on its watch list in 2015 after mounting evidence of its performance-enhancing benefit and widespread use in various sports."
 
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Naner you may be correct. Let's fucking hope so:




Russian Knight Povetkin meldonium update from his promoter: #boxing


If correct, Povetkin should be declared clean per their rules. Per this article, WADA says:


If they detect 70 nanograms (1000 nanogram=1microgram, µg) of Meldonium at the end of April, it's highly likely that the supplement was indeed ingested in 2015
 

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I think the fight should still go on. The reason for this is the substance was recently banned (in Jan) and it's similar to Sharapova's dirty test. If they allow the fight to go on then the ramifications are big because it sends the message that you can test dirty and still make money. But then again, this is some shit that was recently on the list, so it is what it is. I know Wilder was supposed to make like $5 million from the fight so this has to hurt. But why wasn't it detected in the first run of tests?
 
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Fights off for now,

Heavyweight titleholder Deontay Wilder's defense against Alexander Povetkin has been postponed by the WBC after the Russian challenger failed a drug test.

The WBC said the May 21 fight in Moscow is off, pending an investigation, with no backup date.

"Keeping the priority of safety and also the principle of justice, the WBC will continue the investigation into the case," the WBC said in a statement. "Consequently, the event scheduled for May 21 in Moscow is hereby officially postponed."

It added that "the WBC will be releasing more information in the coming days regarding the final ruling on the matter."

Povetkin's promoter has said the substance found in an April test was meldonium, the stamina booster for which tennis star Maria Sharapova and dozens of other athletes in ex-Soviet nations have tested positive since it was banned Jan. 1.

An unbeaten American, Wilder (36-0) had been due to make his fourth defense of the belt he won against Bermane Stiverne in January 2015. For Povetkin (30-1), it will be his first world title challenge since dropping a unanimous decision to Wladimir Klitschko in 2013.

Wilder had made allegations against Povetkin in an interview last year with USA Today. Wilder said he believed the Russian to be "on some kind of steroids" but said he was still willing to fight him.

Prior to the WBC announcement, Team Wilder told ESPN that they had been proceeding as though the fight would be canceled.

Povetkin's promoter Andrei Ryabinsky told Russia's Tass news agency Friday that his fighter had tested positive in April but that only "leftover traces of meldonium at a very low concentration were found." These traces, Ryabinsky said, were the result of Povetkin taking meldonium in September, before it was banned.

Athletes in several sports have avoided suspensions for positive meldonium tests under new World Anti-Doping Agency guidance issued in April -- if the concentration of the heart drug is low enough to indicate they did not take it after Jan. 1.

It is not clear whether such guidance will apply in the case of Povetkin. The WBC works with the Las Vegas-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, which often follows WADA's example but is not under its supervision.
 
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This sucks.

I guess the WBC is saying it's postponed until they finish investigation so not completely scrapped yet but doesn't look promising considering it no longer looks like Povetkin can simply say the traces are left over from September, as he passed VADA testing twice this year before the third tests came up positive, which indicates he took the drug in April. If true what a dipshit.
 
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I know Wilder was supposed to make like $5 million from the fight so this has to hurt. But why wasn't it detected in the first run of tests?
He'll get his money. That money goes in escrow and the fight not happening isn't an injury situation and it's all on Povetkin's side. They'll file a suit and likely win all their money.
 
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Who's the next man up on the WBC list? Let's check:

1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia)
2 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
3 .- Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) EBU
4 .- Johann Duhaupas (France) SILVER
5 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
6 .- Joseph Parker (New Zealand) OPBF
7 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF
8 .- David Haye (GB)
9 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
10 .- Malik Scott (US)



I'd take any of the bold, so I hope Wilder can set up a fight with one of these dudes within the next few months. Wilder loves to stay active and has been innactive so I know he's itchin to get back in the ring ASAP. Takam vs Parker is this weekend I think the winner of that fight would be an obvious choice for Wilder.
 
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Who's the next man up on the WBC list? Let's check:

1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia)
2 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
3 .- Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) EBU
4 .- Johann Duhaupas (France) SILVER
5 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
6 .- Joseph Parker (New Zealand) OPBF
7 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF
8 .- David Haye (GB)
9 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
10 .- Malik Scott (US)



I'd take any of the bold, so I hope Wilder can set up a fight with one of these dudes within the next few months. Wilder loves to stay active and has been innactive so I know he's itchin to get back in the ring ASAP. Takam vs Parker is this weekend I think the winner of that fight would be an obvious choice for Wilder.
I think Takam Vs. Parker is an IBF eliminator for Joseph's strap. Pulev wouldn't be a bad fight although his fight against Chisora was an IBF ranking eliminator, doubt he would pass up a title shot though.

Pulev & Haye are the best fights in that list. Even Jennings wouldn't be bad if they can't get anyone in the ring on time.
 
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According to his promoter, WADA cleared Povetkin. This is good news for everyone I think.



WADA Clears Russian Boxer Povetkin of Doping Charges

Russian promoter Andrey Ryabinsky said Friday the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) had concluded that Russian heavyweight boxer Alexander Povetkin was "clean."

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Earlier it was reported that Russian heavyweight boxer Alexander Povetkin tested negative for meldonium in three Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) tests last month before testing positive.

"WADA sent us today a clarification note saying athletes that tested positive with less than one microgram of meldonium in samples taken before October 1, 2016 will not be disqualified. Therefore, WADA admits that Alexander Povetkin is "clean," Ryabinsky told R-Sport.

"We are awaiting now a positive decision from the World Boxing Council (WBC)," the promoter said.
 
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According to his promoter, WADA cleared Povetkin. This is good news for everyone I think.
That's the big part right there. Wilder agreed to fight Povetkin in Russia once, whatever WADA ended up ruling they can always play the "why would I fight a doper" card. I'm not optimistic at all that this fight ends up happening soon.