Canelo vs Miguel Cotto, 11/21

Not 100% sure but I think the way the WBC is doing these mandatory fights with champions from other sanctioning bodies is a 50/50 split if it goes to a purse bid.

I think I remember reading about it when they were talking about making Kovalev the mandatory and that fight going to a purse bid.

Not a huge fan of that fight. Periban at least gives some guys trouble besides his blow out loss to DeGale. Hopefully this is the last of Ward's rehab fights.

Man...is this the REAL YOU...when your not tailing sideways about TMT/ TBE...very good observation...Imma go check Cotto's last fights just cause you said all this. I see Canelo winning in only one way and that is if he can overpower Cotto...I see Cotto winning in two ways: 1- Cotto being the better boxer with more discipline (Canelo can get frustrated quick) 2- Cotto can buy time and punch off his back foot (against Mosley)...this is a very hard call. If Cotto can stop Canelo from coming forward and make Alvarez think...then it's Cotto...if it's Canelo walking Cotto down then Miguel will eventually fall apart: see vs Margarito vs Pacquiao...I pick the NEW Cotto to come out victorious because of the different options he has (still 50/50 close fight).

I had to google the guy. He looks like Chris Algieris big brother.

Ward and anyone who claims he is P4P should be ashamed of themselves. The people who gave the thumbs up to this fight should be ashamed.

So while GGG is collecting belts and fighting the top fighters in the division with KO percentages equal to his, Ward is pretending to be the son of God and fighting the likes of unranked Murdoch.

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The only fight of his I've seen is the one against Vega. I think it got uploaded to WBVA or BT. Definitely seems like a step down from Paul Smith (who's not all that great himself).

I'll have to watch more than one fight of his though.

Takashi Miura, Francisco Vargas set for undercard of Cotto-Canelo fight

Junior lightweight titlist Takashi Miura will make his mandatory defense against Francisco Vargas on Nov. 21 in one of the televised bouts on the undercard of the Miguel Cotto-Canelo Alvarez middleweight world championship bout.

On Tuesday, co-promoters Golden Boy Promotions and Roc Nation Sports announced that fight and one other that will be on the HBO PPV telecast (9 p.m. ET) from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

Also added to the card was a scheduled 10-round fight that promises action between featherweights Jayson Velez and Ronny Rios.

A third televised undercard bout will be added to the card and is expected to involve super middleweight champion Andre Ward (28-0, 15 KOs), who is moving up to light heavyweight for the first of two bouts he will have before an expected showdown with three-belt light heavyweight titleholder Sergey Kovalev in fall 2016.

"On Nov. 21, the best fighters in boxing will gather for one epic night in Las Vegas," said Golden Boy Promotions CEO Oscar De La Hoya, who promotes Alvarez, Vargas and Rios and co-promotes Velez with Cotto's company. "Audiences will not only see the two biggest stars battle -- Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez -- but every fighter featured on the card brings the highest caliber of talent propelling the sport further into a new golden age of boxing."

Miura (29-2-2, 22 KOs), 31, of Japan, will be fighting in the United States for the first time and for the second time outside of his home country -- he boxed once in Mexico -- when he makes the fourth defense of his 130-pound world title.

He has faced top opposition, including in victories over former featherweight titleholder Billy Dib (by third-round knockout in May) and Sergio Thompson (by decision in a 2013 defense).

"Francisco Vargas has proved himself to be a tough competitor," Miura said. "But I have repeatedly fought to keep my WBC title and on Nov. 21, I will show American fans once again why I am a champion."

Vargas (22-0-1, 16 KOs), 30, a 2008 Mexican Olympian, is coming off an impressive eighth-round knockout of Australia's Will Tomlinson in March. In 2014, Vargas scored his biggest win, a third-round destruction of former featherweight and junior featherweight titlist Juan Manuel Lopez.

"To add the WBC title to my [regional] NABF and WBO intercontinental titles would be the ultimate victory and a great ending to 2015," Vargas said. "I am training hard and ready to bring a fight to the ring at Mandalay Bay. Takashi Miura better be ready because I am coming for him on Nov. 21."

Puerto Rico's Velez (23-0-1, 16 KOs), 27, fought to a draw with then-featherweight titleholder Evgeny Gradovich in November 2014 and won his only bout since. A victory over Rios would move him closer to another world title shot.

"I have been working to make a name for myself and show fans that I am a true undefeated champion," Velez said. "This fight against Ronny Rios represents an important next step in my career, and I am hungry for the win. To fight on the same card as Miguel Cotto and to represent Puerto Rico in Las Vegas in what is sure to be one of this year's biggest nights in boxing is surreal."

Rios (24-1, 10 KOs), 25, of Santa Ana, California, suffered his only defeat in October 2014 when he was knocked out in the fifth round of an upset by Robinson Castellanos. Rios rebounded for a lopsided 10-round decision victory against Sergio Frias in March.

"I was dealt the first loss of my career not long ago, but that has only made me more focused and driven," Rios said. "I have already sought redemption and am now ready to continue on my path to a world title. Jayson Velez may prove to be a tough opponent, but I will be ready for him. Come Nov. 21, Velez will know what a first career loss will feel like."

Said Hector Soto, vice president of Miguel Cotto Promotions, "I believe Velez versus Rios is a great match for both fighters. The winner will be a step away from a title shot, and it adds more drama to the Puerto Rico-versus-Mexico rivalry. In Ronny Rios, we have a tough fighter, and Jayson Velez is a warrior that brings action into the ring."

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What an awesome fight for the undercard.

If P4P is based on a fighters total resume and the fact they're still fighting then RJJ, JMM and Ward should be on the list. If it's based on recent shit, ko of the year, fight of the year, fighter of the year, unifying a division, etc then the names I mentioned shouldn't be on the list. But according to Ring magazine, "recent past" is a factor for determining it so I guess six fuckin years ago is recent pass, lol.

ETA: and to be honest, Saul should be on the list before Ward.

CANELO POWER!

Cotto has to clearly fuck Canelo up. A decision will go to Canelo no matter what because he's young and is the "future" of boxing. Until GGG knocks him the fuck out

B @battle619 , make sure you post the link to the fight just in case I don't go to my folks house to watch it. I know you got me covered bre, thanks.

does anybody have any inks to the fight?

CH2

tryna find an hbo feed

I still feel the same way...Cotto by desicion.

where have you been?

B @battle619 does.