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Old 08-21-2017, 09:49 PM   #161
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I don't understand this thread.. whenever a muslim drives a truck of peace through a bunch of pedestrians killing several of them about every week now.

People always respond with the hashtags #notallmuslims #notallfillintherest
Saying the muslim community , not the pedestrians or their families of the ones who got hit and or killed by this truck of peace are the victims. And then becoming scared of the the backlash that has never happened.
That's certainly one side. There's also the people who say it's a Muslim or muzzie anytime something goes down, or outright blatant shit like kill all these Muslims, etc., which isn't hard to find.

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But now one guy who was at a right wing rally drives his car into a mob and suddenly damn near all white people are racists lol

How are we so sure this wasn't a single incident like for example those trucks of peace that are supposed to be a single guy every time.
Or how do we know the guy driving the car into the mob didn't even know what he was doing because he wanted to get away in a panic from some antifa members that attacked him?

I read a lot about how extremism on the right is growing and that they are becoming more violent. But I have yet to see violence coming from the right. Maybe I am stupid but I don't see it.
I see them demonstrating sometimes but never violent. From what I've seen it is always the left who instigate violence.
The people on the right seem to be open to debate but the left only answers with certain chants and never actually go in discussion.

The way I see it the only reason people see extremism rise on the right is because people broadened the label and everybody who has a different opinion or viewpoint then the most extreme leftist are labeled nazi, fascist, homophobe etc.
While the actual fascists is antifa itself obviously.
I don't see anyone calling all white people racists lol

This one guy literally was at a racist rally before driving his car into the protesters and had Nazi/Hitler shit on his Facebook. Its not hard to connect the dots with this guy. I understand your point but he's not the guy to defend, he has a history with neo Nazis and that was well known to his peers.



This is him with the Vanguard America shield, which are self proclaimed fascists. There's no sugar coating it, they are a White nationalist, fascist organization.

Regardless, what's more alarming should be that there was, and continues to be, white nationalist movements in 2017, and openly marching/rallying and yes growing in numbers. That should be much more of a concern then the guy who drove his car into protesters. Sure give him the benefit of the doubt if you want, he has a history of mental illness but so do a lot of terrorists and mass murders, that never stopped anyone before from being labeled a terrorist or a murderer.

But it's odd you say you can't think of any examples of right wing extremist violence. I suppose you're only talking about the protests videos though. You'll definitely find a lot of violent "antifa" videos, because they are violent street protesters. That's their thing. You'll also see violent right ring protesters too, maybe you don't remember those people getting beat up at Trump rallies during his campaign? That's where some of the violence from the "left" came from, in response of that, still wrong nonetheless and doesnt explain these recent idiots. Still though search YouTube and you'll find examples. Clearly a lot of anger amongst these people on both sides.

Or Search for real right wing violence and you'll see much more. Like right-wing terrorism, Anders Behring Breivik in Norway, of course that's Norway but I'm guessing you're familiar with that White Nationalist, since you're European. There are examples like that recently in the US, like Dylan Roof. Numerous recent examples, just not as easy to kill so many people on a tiny island with no where to run, some examples the Portland train attack last month, stabbing of Timothy Caughman, the Olathe, Kansas shooting, Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, Charleston church shooting (Dylann Roof), ambush attack on Las Vegas police officers, Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting, etc. That's just a few recently.

I don't think anyone is saying all white people are Nazis. Quite the opposite. You'll notice almost all of these "antifa" people are white lesbians yelling hateful shit (which is hilarious in itself). The political climate is weird here in the US since Trump- extremism, misguided anger, etc. which are all symptoms of a bigger problem frankly.
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That's certainly one side. There's also the people who say it's a Muslim or muzzie anytime something goes down, or outright blatant shit like kill all these Muslims, etc., which isn't hard to find.
People who say these things are not hard to find that's true. I just wanted to point out the news coverage of both sides. Which seem to start to change now but for the longest time were biased toward the left.


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I don't see anyone calling all white people racists lol
Maybe not related to this particular incident but there's plenty of that going around.



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This one guy literally was at a racist rally before driving his car into the protesters and had Nazi/Hitler shit on his Facebook. Its not hard to connect the dots with this guy. I understand your point but he's not the guy to defend, he has a history with neo Nazis and that was well known to his peers.



This is him with the Vanguard America shield, which are self proclaimed fascists. There's no sugar coating it, they are a White nationalist, fascist organization.
I never heard of vanguard america before so I had to look it up if they really are self proclaimed fascists or or not. Their website has been taken offline but I found it here and they actually are self proclaimed fascists, imagine that.

Vanguard America – Blood and Soil

I did read a statement of them that this guy is not a member of their organization. Not sure if that is correct or not tho.


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Regardless, what's more alarming should be that there was, and continues to be, white nationalist movements in 2017, and openly marching/rallying and yes growing in numbers. That should be much more of a concern then the guy who drove his car into protesters. Sure give him the benefit of the doubt if you want, he has a history of mental illness but so do a lot of terrorists and mass murders, that never stopped anyone before from being labeled a terrorist or a murderer.
Yes I do believe most of these individual cases have histories with mental illnesses and or medication and would have acted out regardless their cause.
I absolutely agree that the bigger concern is the group mentality. But that goes for both sides obviously. The protests on the left are there for the only reason to inflict violence it seems. Where on the right I do not get this impression.
I also believe that more of this right winged violence comes as a reaction to antifa and blm being violent for all these protests/rallies. If they wouldn't be so violent then the "alt right" would be a lot smaller.


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But it's odd you say you can't think of any examples of right wing extremist violence. I suppose you're only talking about the protests videos though. You'll definitely find a lot of violent "antifa" videos, because they are violent street protesters. That's their thing. You'll also see violent right ring protesters too, maybe you don't remember those people getting beat up at Trump rallies during his campaign? That's where some of the violence from the "left" came from, in response of that, still wrong nonetheless and doesnt explain these recent idiots. Still though search YouTube and you'll find examples. Clearly a lot of anger amongst these people on both sides.

Or Search for real right wing violence and you'll see much more. Like right-wing terrorism, Anders Behring Breivik in Norway, of course that's Norway but I'm guessing you're familiar with that White Nationalist, since you're European. There are examples like that recently in the US, like Dylan Roof. Numerous recent examples, just not as easy to kill so many people on a tiny island with no where to run, some examples the Portland train attack last month, stabbing of Timothy Caughman, the Olathe, Kansas shooting, Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, Charleston church shooting (Dylann Roof), ambush attack on Las Vegas police officers, Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting, etc. That's just a few recently.

I do remember people getting beat up at trump rallies. All of them were trump supporters. Or just simply 'because they're white'.
I've even seen leftist being beat up by other leftist because they were not left enough.

All of those are singular events. I am not familiar with every case but can we exclude mental illness and medication in most if not all of those cases? And again all of these cases have been in the news extensively but did you hear about this left anti trump activist who shot his trump supporting neighbor on his own property?
This happened over a month ago by the way.

Anti-Trump activist 'executed his Republican neighbor' | Daily Mail Online

I am more worried about the group mentalities tho, both sides. Its crazy already for a minute and it doesn't seem to end at this point. Both sides are fueling each other now and there doesn't seem an end in sight.
I noticed a lot of right wing websites are taken offline but I'm also glad antifa has been labeled a domestic terrorist group finally.


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I don't think anyone is saying all white people are Nazis. Quite the opposite. You'll notice almost all of these "antifa" people are white lesbians yelling hateful shit (which is hilarious in itself). The political climate is weird here in the US since Trump- extremism, misguided anger, etc. which are all symptoms of a bigger problem frankly.
Yes its a few minorities that say all white people are racists but mostly other white people screaming all white people are racists. It's retarded as fuck to me.



@2-0-Sixx sorry for the late reply. I actually couldn't be fucked since I'm going through a personal crisis right now.
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Old 08-25-2017, 08:29 AM   #167
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Talk about clickbait..."destroys"? Where? I thought what he said was precise and accurate.
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Talk about clickbait..."destroys"? Where? I thought what he said was precise and accurate.
i didn't look at title of video i was just hearing what he said, and he nailed it
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When did fascism, a far left ideology, make the switch to the right?
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When did fascism, a far left ideology, make the switch to the right?
It never did, just a way for the extreme leftists to fight amongst themselves without saying so....
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Thats not how it works....
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This been out. However the timing of the screams compared to when the object hit the car doesnt correlate with the argument that "his car got hit, so he got mad and hit the gas". No. He was on his path before that object struck the car.
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This been out. However the timing of the screams compared to when the object hit the car doesnt correlate with the argument that "his car got hit, so he got mad and hit the gas". No. He was on his path before that object struck the car.
Well I wasn't there but you may have a valid point. I don't necessarily agree with his car got hit, so he got mad and hit the gas, maybe that's a quote you are stating from statements the defendant made.....? I wouldn't know. I can tell you one thing tho, I saw a crazy ass crash in Vegas once where someone threw an object at a females car and it sounded like a gun shot. It caused that car and a car with two old people right next to it to drive off from a red light stop, into oncoming traffic, which caused a two vehicle rollover. My point is, yes, maybe he got mad when they hit his car, or maybe he feared for his life. Or maybe it was neither of those and he was just an asshole looking to run over people. It will be the states job to prove the charges beyond a reasonable doubt (which is where I'm going with all of this).
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Maybe not related to this particular incident but there's plenty of that going around.

"All white people are racist" and they'll be no "coddling of white tears" says Ashleigh Shackelford. - YouTube
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When you type her name, Ashleigh Shackleford, into Google, you get this description of her website:
Ashleigh Shackelford is a queer, nonbinary Black fat femme writer, cultural producer, and artist. She is a contributing writer at Wear Your ...



So we can stop right there. We know not only is this woman the size of three goddamn people, but that she has mental health issues. This source of "all white people are racists" opinion isn't valid, along with any other opinion she has.
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