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May 9, 2002
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Surprised StillHustlin didnt post this:

SAN FRANCISCO — The United States has found a way to permanently embed surveillance and sabotage tools in computers and networks it has targeted in Iran, Russia, Pakistan, China, Afghanistan and other countries closely watched by American intelligence agencies, according to a Russian cybersecurity firm.

In a presentation of its findings at a conference in Mexico on Monday, Kaspersky Lab, the Russian firm, said that the implants had been placed by what it called the “Equation Group,” which appears to be a veiled reference to the National Security Agency and its military counterpart, United States Cyber Command.

It linked the techniques to those used in Stuxnet, the computer worm that disabled about 1,000 centrifuges in Iran’s nuclear enrichment program. It was later revealed that Stuxnet was part of a program code-named Olympic Games and run jointly by Israel and the United States.

Kaspersky’s report said that Olympic Games had similarities to a much broader effort to infect computers well beyond those in Iran. It detected particularly high infection rates in computers in Iran, Pakistan and Russia, three countries whose nuclear programs the United States routinely monitors.

Some of the implants burrow so deep into the computer systems, Kaspersky said, that they infect the “firmware,” the embedded software that preps the computer’s hardware before the operating system starts. It is beyond the reach of existing antivirus products and most security controls, Kaspersky reported, making it virtually impossible to wipe out.

In many cases, it also allows the American intelligence agencies to grab the encryption keys off a machine, unnoticed, and unlock scrambled contents. Moreover, many of the tools are designed to run on computers that are disconnected from the Internet, which was the case in the computers controlling Iran’s nuclear enrichment plants.

Kaspersky noted that of the more than 60 attack groups it was tracking in cyberspace, the so-called Equation Group “surpasses anything known in terms of complexity and sophistication of techniques, and that has been active for almost two decades.”

Kaspersky Lab was founded by Eugene Kaspersky, who studied cryptography at a high school co-sponsored by the K.G.B. and once worked for the Russian military. Its studies, including one describing a cyberattack of more than 100 banks and other financial institutions in 30 countries, are considered credible by Western experts.

The fact that security software made by Kaspersky Lab is not used by many American government agencies has made it more trusted by other governments, like those of Iran and Russia, whose systems are closely watched by United States intelligence agencies. That gives Kaspersky a front-row seat to America’s digital espionage operations.

The firm’s researchers say that what makes these attacks particularly remarkable is their way of attacking the actual firmware of the computers. Only in rare cases are cybercriminals able to get into the actual guts of a machine.
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Recovering from a cyberattack typically involves wiping the computer’s operating system and reinstalling software, or replacing a computer’s hard drive. But if the firmware becomes infected, security experts say, it can turn even the most sophisticated computer into a useless piece of metal.

In the past, security experts have warned about “the race to the bare metal” of a machine. As security around software has increased, criminals have looked for ways to infect the actual hardware of the machine. Firmware is about the closest to the bare metal you can get — a coveted position that allows the attacker not only to hide from antivirus products but also to reinfect a machine even if its hard drive is wiped.

“If the malware gets into the firmware, it is able to resurrect itself forever,” Costin Raiu, a Kaspersky threat researcher, said in the report. “It means that we are practically blind and cannot detect hard drives that have been infected with this malware.”

The possibility of such an attack is one that math researchers at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a branch of the Commerce Department, have long cautioned about but have very rarely seen. In an interview last year, Andrew Regenscheid, a math researcher at the institute, warned that such attacks were extremely powerful. If the firmware becomes corrupted, Mr. Regenscheid said, “your computer won’t boot up and you can’t use it. You have to replace the computer to recover from that attack.”

That kind of attack also makes for a powerful encryption-cracking tool, Mr. Raiu noted, because it gives attackers the ability to capture a machine’s encryption password, store it in “an invisible area inside the computer’s hard drive” and unscramble a machine’s contents.

Kaspersky’s report also detailed the group’s efforts to map out so-called air-gapped systems that are not connected to the Internet, including Iran’s nuclear enrichment facilities, and infect them using a USB stick. To get those devices onto the machines, the report said, the attackers have in some cases intercepted them in transit.

Documents revealed by the former National Security Agency contractor Edward J. Snowden detailed the agency’s plans to leap the “air gaps” that separate computers from the outside world, including efforts to install specialized hardware on computers being shipped to a target country. That hardware can then receive low-frequency radio waves broadcast from a suitcase-size device that the N.S.A. has deployed around the world. At other times the air gaps have been leapt by having a spy physically install a USB stick to infect the adversary’s computer.

Basing its estimate on the time stamps in code, the Kaspersky presentation said the Equation Group had been infecting computers since 2001, but aggressively began ramping up their capabilities in 2008, the year that President Obama was elected, and began doubling down on digital tools to spy on adversaries of America.

While the United States has never acknowledged conducting any offensive cyberoperations, President Obama discussed the issue in general in an interview on Friday with Re/code, an online computer industry publication, describing offensive cyberweapons as being unlike traditional weapons.

“This is more like basketball than football, in the sense that there’s no clear line between offense and defense,” said Mr. Obama, himself a basketball player. “Things are going back and forth all the time.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/17/t...foreign-networks-security-firm-says.html?_r=0
 

S.SAVAGE

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Because if they are doing to foreign countries, you can damn sure bet they are doing it locally.
We've been known that tho breh, no stopping it at this point

big brother is watching, & has been our entire lives only getting more sly

there is nothing we can do to stop them, period.

protest, internet rant, ...none of that will stop Skynet.

 

BUTCHER 206

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Because if they are doing to foreign countries, you can damn sure bet they are doing it locally.
Only terrorists and child pornographers care about being watched
Shit I dare the NSA to dredge through the cancerous mindnumbing cess pool that is my browsing history lol go ahead
 

Nuttkase

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That's like the Russian spy ring they broke up recently in the Bronx earlier this year and reading the statement issued by the DoJ I don't know how whoever wrote it kept a straight face knowing damn well we have people over there, and across the world, doing the exact same shit lol.

Attorney General Holder Announces Charges Against Russian Spy Ring in New York City | OPA | Department of Justice

Like of course I'm glad they caught them of course but espionage will always be part of the game on all sides. All these governments know shit like this is going on and expect it. It's generally only newsworthy when someone gets caught.
 
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We've been known that tho breh, no stopping it at this point

big brother is watching, & has been our entire lives only getting more sly

there is nothing we can do to stop them, period.

protest, internet rant, ...none of that will stop Skynet.

I agree bro. There's some wicked shit going on but ain't no stoppn it. Just enjoy life and feel safe knowing that no country is going to invade us as long as we're alive thanks to big brother and uncle sam
 
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Only terrorists and child pornographers care about being watched
You are just a fucking slave or why do you let someone tread like youre one ?
A free human beeing does say "nobody has the right to surveillance me" its my life, my freedom - you guys sound like the perfect stasi victim.
Btw. whats happing since years, would of been the wet dream of stasi...

If a lawyer & a prosecuter put surveillance on me and this done after reasonable ground for suspecting, giving theyre signatures in case they fuck it up, and they use it in a short amount of time. I live with that and i can say "that makes sense, we got to have tools for certain cases" - but all this 24/7 aint no tool for nothing, its like a rpg pointet on freedom on everybody on this planet.

You fucking scared pussys, Scared of "terrorists" so much (thanks to your media), that you allready live in a world that even the worst terrorists would not able to construct.

What do you guys think all this surveillance stuf will end ? And when will they give back your freedom that you given up at patriot act ? And how will this world look like in like 10-30-50-100 years with this insanity ? You cant beat terrorism with wars & surveillance, those are the wrong tools that just make terrorism stronger - and what would you tell your grandkids when they ask you "what have you done against this insanity" ? You can tell them "we were scared like little pussys, and so we followed criminals that told us, its patriotic & will stop terrorism"
 

Legman

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only shame is getting caught

these are countries who hate us, why wouldnt we want the upper hand?
what sucks is in places like Iran, the populace at large does not hate America, its the government and its backers that portray that image and push that agenda...otherwise my very close lady friend went to Iran recently, actually has gone multiple times, and she said the culture is very westernized, its whats being shown to the world that portrays most Iranians as savage haters of America

cuz aside from the real haters, that country is full of people like my parents who are from Iran, born raised and survived the revolution...and they love America, and so does their family back in Iran today

its a fucked up situation
 

Legman

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^ya well Iran needs to fuck with the central bank before we give em a pass..
you say that like the central banking system is a good thing

honestly, the only thing i could give a fuck bout with Iran, is the little family i have there that i care bout, i wish some of them would leave that shithole, and the rest could fuck off for all i care...they need to use a nuke and remodel that whole region
 
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S.SAVAGE

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You are just a fucking slave or why do you let someone tread like youre one ?
A free human beeing does say "nobody has the right to surveillance me" its my life, my freedom - you guys sound like the perfect stasi victim.
Btw. whats happing since years, would of been the wet dream of stasi...

If a lawyer & a prosecuter put surveillance on me and this done after reasonable ground for suspecting, giving theyre signatures in case they fuck it up, and they use it in a short amount of time. I live with that and i can say "that makes sense, we got to have tools for certain cases" - but all this 24/7 aint no tool for nothing, its like a rpg pointet on freedom on everybody on this planet.

You fucking scared pussys, Scared of "terrorists" so much (thanks to your media), that you allready live in a world that even the worst terrorists would not able to construct.

What do you guys think all this surveillance stuf will end ? And when will they give back your freedom that you given up at patriot act ? And how will this world look like in like 10-30-50-100 years with this insanity ? You cant beat terrorism with wars & surveillance, those are the wrong tools that just make terrorism stronger - and what would you tell your grandkids when they ask you "what have you done against this insanity" ? You can tell them "we were scared like little pussys, and so we followed criminals that told us, its patriotic & will stop terrorism"
maybe we should just let the evil people in this world continue to be bad & kill & behead people & burn people alive & all that really neat cool stuff, huh?

nobody gets caught nobody sees anything, & we can be just like the continent of Africa, where entire villages of little & teen girls go missing with no repercussions, or where muhfuckers walk into a village & take the whole thing out & burn the shit down...

I am not for big brother watching me, but lets face it... most the world needs a fuckin babysitter because they dont know how to act.

not saying the people watching know how to act either, but you see what happens when nobody is watching, right?

& before you get to callin me a pussy & all that, ...hesitate. I am speaking my point of view.

Either respect it or keep on scrolling.
 

DaGrimProphet

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maybe we should just let the evil people in this world continue to be bad & kill & behead people & burn people alive & all that really neat cool stuff, huh?

nobody gets caught nobody sees anything, & we can be just like the continent of Africa, where entire villages of little & teen girls go missing with no repercussions, or where muhfuckers walk into a village & take the whole thing out & burn the shit down...

I am not for big brother watching me, but lets face it... most the world needs a fuckin babysitter because they dont know how to act.

not saying the people watching know how to act either, but you see what happens when nobody is watching, right?

& before you get to callin me a pussy & all that, ...hesitate. I am speaking my point of view.

Either respect it or keep on scrolling.
I completely agree with your opinion, but the surveillance is getting way too much, at least here in tea and crumpet land.... we got the prime minister talkin of banning entire social media sites and blocking access to any site they say has messages that are difficult to intercept

Thats the big problem, how do they regulate this terrorism bullshit without invading privacy too much.... I just guess its impossible to satisfy everyone