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Aug 17, 2002
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right, but to label everyone as the same type of racist is also a blanket statement. in those days, blacks and whites lived in completely different realities within the same state, and it wasn't exactly a harmonious co-existence.

to say mid 20th century black angst towward whites and white angst toward blacks is the same is inaccurate
 
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IDGAF if their goal is to uplift "their people"

That's the problem, is people like them & other races decide on who their people are, when at the end of the day, WE ARE ALL HUMAN.

& we should treat one another accordingly.

the division of color is whats wrong with the world today.
i agree with your last three sentences but your first sentence is out of tune with reality and ignores all the bullshit people have to endure on a granular level, and the effects of that b.s. on the developing mindset within those oppressed communities
 

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#44
right, but to label everyone as the same type of racist is also a blanket statement.
I disagree, racism is racism.

in those days, blacks and whites lived in completely different realities within the same state, and it wasn't exactly a harmonious co-existence.
Both groups exist today

to say mid 20th century black angst towward whites and white angst toward blacks is the same is inaccurate
Again, blanket statements, breh.

Not all people of color & non-color feel the same as each other.
 
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meh, but they are still a bunch of faggots just like the KKK & these other extremist groups.

fuck the black panther party, the klan & an ISIS, they are bitches with a gun just like the punk ass police.

fuck em all 100% in their ass with a bayonet.
You are highly misinformed if you're talking about the original Black Panthers. "The New Black Panthers" however have absolutely zero ties to the original group and are a bunch of pieces of shit.

The original Black Panthers was based on socialist ideology and were about CLASS warfare, not race. They worked with all groups including whites, asian's and latino's. After they were completely destroyed by COINTELPRO, sure there were a few former members who were completely lost and went aloof, doing weird and bizarre stuff, some racist. But at it's core, at it's beginning and at their height, they were a socialist organization who recognized that classism was the real problem. It was very early on ('67) they completely rejected black nationalism and focused more a "revolutionary internationalist movement". Their emphasis was a Marxist-Leninist doctrine with a lot of Maoism. This is why every Party member had to study Mao Tse-tung's "Little Red Book" to advance his or her knowledge of peoples' struggle and the revolutionary process.



 
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I disagree, racism is racism.



Both groups exist today



Again, blanket statements, breh.

Not all people of color & non-color feel the same as each other.

Right, but many oppressed blacks in the mid 20th century had bad feelings toward white society and you can't paint them with the brush you use for the KKK
 
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but again, that reality was created out of hate.

it's time to erase the hate & build... thats the problem is the hate blinds people to that fact.
blacks did not create the reality though. they didn't have the power to do so, and that's the whole point.
 

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You are highly misinformed if you're talking about the original Black Panthers. "The New Black Panthers" however have absolutely zero ties to the original group and are a bunch of pieces of shit.

The original Black Panthers was based on socialist ideology and were about CLASS warfare, not race. They worked with all groups including whites, asian's and latino's. After they were completely destroyed by COINTELPRO, sure there were a few former members who were completely lost and went aloof, doing weird and bizarre stuff, some racist. But at it's core, at it's beginning and at their height, they were a socialist organization who recognized that classism was the real problem. It was very early on ('67) they completely rejected black nationalism and focused more a "revolutionary internationalist movement". Their emphasis was a Marxist-Leninist doctrine with a lot of Maoism. This is why every Party member had to study Mao Tse-tung's "Little Red Book" to advance his or her knowledge of peoples' struggle and the revolutionary process.



I am speaking on the current Panthers & Klan.

both are wrong.
 

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blacks did not create the reality though. they didn't have the power to do so, and that's the whole point.
that hate is being carried on today by both groups, again people need to wake up & realize that hating one another brings no worth.

we were all born equal, no matter the color of your skin.
 
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we are born equal until one decides to oppress another, that's where the idealism you're projecting loses relevancy. what you're saying is very true, but it's on the verge of suggesting we should all just sit around a fire holding hands singing what a wonderful world.

ya that would be dope but you can't expect disenfranchised people to just naturally be so jolly about their prospects. we have to put more of the blame on the oppressor. It's the oppressors moral responsibility to change more so than the oppressed.
 

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that hate is being carried on today by both groups, again people need to wake up & realize that hating one another brings no worth.

we were all born equal, no matter the color of your skin.
im just using ISIS as an example cuz its from my experience, i dunno much bout the panthers or the klan so i cant speak on it much)

i agree with everything ur sayin...except after whats happened in the middle east with ISIS (my most recent experience with hate in our community) is so beyond fucked up, that you couldnt kill me fast enough after you ask me to make friendly and coexist on earth with those fucking maggots

in a way, because of their actions toward my culture and my people, they have turned me into a person full of hate...its directed only at them, but its hate none the less...and its hate id be willing to act on against anyone supporting ISIS
 
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im just using ISIS as an example cuz its from my experience, i dunno much bout the panthers or the klan so i cant speak on it much)

i agree with everything ur sayin...except after whats happened in the middle east with ISIS (my most recent experience with hate in our community) is so beyond fucked up, that you couldnt kill me fast enough after you ask me to make friendly and coexist on earth with those fucking maggots

in a way, because of their actions toward my culture and my people, they have turned me into a person full of hate...its directed only at them, but its hate none the less...and its hate id be willing to act on against anyone supporting ISIS
I feel you. it's a shitty situation. there are villages in Iraq and Syria that have been virtually antonymous for centuries, with their own cultures and power structures. Muslims, christians, kurds, Assyrians, who could have given a fuck about a Saddam or a Bush are now being introduced to genocide, rape and cultural destruction. it's a lot like how the European imperialists of the previous 500 years used to do it. and besides a few missile drops here and there America is just kicking back and watching it.

as much as it might hurt the ego, our government will be better off establishing better relations with Iran and Syria, and to loosen ties with Saudi Arabia and and the Emirate nations who are filled with millionares who helped fund isis and al queda on the low.
 

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i cant prop you for some reason, but you said what i was pretty much thinkin

its fucked up now cuz they just demolished one of the walls of Bet-Nahrain which has stood for over 2000 years...i cant put into words how angry i am

im lightweight thinkin about saving up to fly out and join the Assyrian Militia out there...it'll be hard tho cuz we speak 2 completely different dialects
 

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we are born equal until one decides to oppress another, that's where the idealism you're projecting loses relevancy. what you're saying is very true, but it's on the verge of suggesting we should all just sit around a fire holding hands singing what a wonderful world.

ya that would be dope but you can't expect disenfranchised people to just naturally be so jolly about their prospects. we have to put more of the blame on the oppressor. It's the oppressors moral responsibility to change more so than the oppressed.
problem is tho see, I as a white man am not an oppressor, but categorized.

Tho my family nor ancestors have ever oppressed, had slaves, been in a racist group, taught prejudice, ...but WE are a part of this big problem, right?

it's the same thing as the cops who categorize all people of color,... but they are wrong when they do it, right?

so what exactly makes it okay, going in the opposite direction?

double standard like a mother fucker & sorry man, I don't live by that creed.

people need to look further than skin tone & blame the blamable, not make blanket statements.
 

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i cant prop you for some reason, but you said what i was pretty much thinkin

its fucked up now cuz they just demolished one of the walls of Bet-Nahrain which has stood for over 2000 years...i cant put into words how angry i am

im lightweight thinkin about saving up to fly out and join the Assyrian Militia out there...it'll be hard tho cuz we speak 2 completely different dialects
Armen bout to be like...