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I certainly don't think Carroll needs to go or that there is a viable alternative out there.

But it does bother with how much he stresses "competition" that he doesn't seem to carry that philosophy over to his coaching staff.

Other than guys moving on to other teams, I can't think of any coaches on his staff that have lost their jobs due to competition - which seems unlikely from a statistical standpoint. The odds are not in our favor that we have all the best coaches and no one could do the job better than they are.
 
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It's too bad. But you can see Wilson was going right the entire time. Pause it at 3-4 seconds. Two guys are lined across from Jimmy so it appears like one guy will take the inside. Wilson catches the ball and he's only looking right and throws. That is probably by design since it was a quick catch and release. He didn't see the guy who looked like would cover Jimmy on the inside didn't take the inside, so it's not as if Wilson didn't read the defense it's just that he was already going to take the shot to the right, but if he would have waited half a second he would have seen it. Or ironically if there was immediate pressure from the defensive line it probably would have caused him to scramble a bit and then see the open receivers in the middle and to his left.

Every game has a few critical plays like that which are either missed opportunities or huge plays and Atlanta capitalized on theirs. The other was the Hester 76 yard kick retnn holding call. That changed everything and Seahawks went down hill from that point on. It was a close game, 10-10. They probably score a TD there and go up 17-10, rather than giving up a safety, punt and give up a TD. If they go up 17-10, who knows, maybe they stick to the running game instead of completely abandoning it and maybe Rawls has another huge game.

But even then there was a lot of football left so who knows. At the end of the day the better team won, Atlanta is the best team in the NFC and if it weren't for Rodgers playing out of his mind right now and literally carrying the Packers it wouldn't be close.
 
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That's a very rough penalty if they take a second round.

Here's my thing with this - if Sherman had a "significant" injury like Carroll said, why would he return punts until they picked up Hester? Why would he play every game and every single play? Why no knee brace or support? Clearly my definition of significant is different than Pete's because there's no way he was playing that hard at that high of a level, returning kicks, covering kicks and attempting to block FGs and extra points every game if he had a significant injury. The whole situation is weird that Pete said that because clearly he wasn't "significantly injured". At best he had some minor injury that nagged at him, like most all players have throughout the season and their careers that don't go reported.

The NFL is also very inconsistent with enforcing this rule and teams do whacky shit all the time with the injury reports, some players are always on the injury report like Marshawn Lynch who never practiced besides pre season. Old vet QBs always have injuries listed so they can draw sympathy from refs and get roughing the passer flags. An example of the NFLs inconsistency the Jets were fined $250,000 when they didn't disclose Brett Favre's injured shoulder. The Colts last year however never disclosed Andrew Lucks broken ribs and they were not penalized at all. Clearly with Seattle they make it worse because they've had a few no-contact violations over the years, but to me that shouldn't matter since it's an entire different situation (and the last no-contact violation was because a scuffle occurred between two players the other was BS in that one player was covering a pass and bumped into dude which caused them to crash down the ground, an accident but the league already had a hard on for slapping SEA with violations/fines).
 
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That's a very rough penalty if they take a second round.

Here's my thing with this - if Sherman had a "significant" injury like Carroll said, why would he return punts until they picked up Hester?


That is a great point.

Someone is an idiot for this one and it looks like Pete. It appears like he was trying to make excuses and that popped into his mind so he ran with it, not thinking about the consequences.
 
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I certainly don't think Carroll needs to go or that there is a viable alternative out there.

But it does bother with how much he stresses "competition" that he doesn't seem to carry that philosophy over to his coaching staff.

Other than guys moving on to other teams, I can't think of any coaches on his staff that have lost their jobs due to competition - which seems unlikely from a statistical standpoint. The odds are not in our favor that we have all the best coaches and no one could do the job better than they are.

To quote myself here, my biggest takeaway from the games Sunday is that the coaching of both NE and ATL is superior to other teams, Hawks very much included. Their ability to scheme, game plan, adjust, exploit weaknesses and mitigate strengths is impressive and leaves a lot to be desired as a Hawks fan.
 
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They can scheme all they want but if they don't have the personnel or the personnel is not playing up to par it doesn't matter. Seahawks have a lot of holes defensively and it showed against ATL. There isn't a whole lot they can do s heme wise. You could see Richard wanted to get more pressure on Ryan since the front four wasn't getting it done so he blitzed and they got burned. When they didn't blitz Ryan had all day to throw and Seahawks would get burned. Damned if you do damned if you don't.

They weren't going to beat a red hot Atlanta this year, not with what they had missing players and everything they went through this year, shit look what happened to the Packers they got destroyed. Packers also had a lot of missing players that hurt them and some of this boils down to how healthy a team is. ATL is very healthy so are the Patriots. There is a little bit of luck in that.
 
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They can scheme all they want but if they don't have the personnel or the personnel is not playing up to par it doesn't matter. Seahawks have a lot of holes defensively and it showed against ATL. There isn't a whole lot they can do s heme wise. You could see Richard wanted to get more pressure on Ryan since the front four wasn't getting it done so he blitzed and they got burned. When they didn't blitz Ryan had all day to throw and Seahawks would get burned. Damned if you do damned if you don't.

They weren't going to beat a red hot Atlanta this year, not with what they had missing players and everything they went through this year, shit look what happened to the Packers they got destroyed. Packers also had a lot of missing players that hurt them and some of this boils down to how healthy a team is. ATL is very healthy so are the Patriots. There is a little bit of luck in that.
I dont know, i kinda disagree with that. Superior coaching can elevate "average" talent IMHO. Playing fundamentally sound football and executing the plays are what matter in football. Yes, its great to have the big talent that can improvise if shit happens, but give me a guy who can run a precise route, catch the ball, and get a first down. Thats Atlanta's game. It just so happens they have the best WR in the game who can do that and then some. But they are a very sound team and if you watch, they really are a dink and dunk squad...not alot of over the top passes.
 
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I dont know, i kinda disagree with that. Superior coaching can elevate "average" talent IMHO. Playing fundamentally sound football and executing the plays are what matter in football. Yes, its great to have the big talent that can improvise if shit happens, but give me a guy who can run a precise route, catch the ball, and get a first down. Thats Atlanta's game. It just so happens they have the best WR in the game who can do that and then some. But they are a very sound team and if you watch, they really are a dink and dunk squad...not alot of over the top passes.

Agreed plus as I have been listening to the radio the last few days, everyone has been talking about the Xs and O's of Atlanta's game plan and how they are taking their schemes to the next level and getting out of the "traditional" football concepts. Such as the Hawks always running a draw on 3rd and long haha.

I get the sense that our coordinators are very traditional compared to more forward thinking guys in the league. I don't know enough to make that comparison myself, but in listening to the guys who know Xs and Os on the radio its clear they all seem to think that.

The breakdown I heard on the Pitt - NE game was that the Steelers stayed committed to "who they are" while NE schemed and played called around them and their refusal to adjust.
 
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There's definitely truth in that as well so when shit isn't going right, the team has injuries whatever, coaches have to scheme to figure out a way. Defense is a lot more simple though, there isn't a whole lot you can do differently to confuse the offensive to the point where you can suddenly dominate a team. You are who you are on defense, you play to your strengths and this year it wasn't good enough. Offensively though, that's a different story and that is where I'd love to have a real "offensive mind" running the offensive who can get creative, who can exploit weaknesses of the opponents defense, unlike Bevell who just lacks that extra creativity we see from the really good teams. Atalantas defense isn't amazing yet 13 points was the best Bevell could figure out until late in the 4th when they got an easier TD. But the thing is, didn't matter if it was Atlanta or San Francisco, Bevell just can't get this offense to put up big points and the only time this team scored into the 40s over the past several years (definitely didn't happen this year) was when the defense was getting tons of turnovers and scoring points or setting up easy TDs. With Baldwin, Jimmy, Wilson, Willson, Richardson (and Lockett when playing), etc., even with the shit offensive line i can guarantee GOOD offensive coordinators can get this very same offense to be a more consistent scoring team.
 
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I have feeling you guys will draft Haason Reddick. Hes one of these new age fast LBs who are quick rushers and can drop back (like Ryan Shazier). I think the 1st rd grade O-linemen will be gone. I could see Forrest Lamp too tho
 
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I want to be excited, but I just don't like the Luke Joeckel move.

7 mil guaranteed for one year? For a team that is always talking about the future this move can only go one of 2 ways:

1) Joeckel sucks and gets benched and we wasted 7mil on him that we can't get back

2) Joeckel plays well and then we lose him after 1 season because we can't afford to keep him


I would have liked to have seen a team option for a 2nd year or something like that at a minimum so this isn't a 1 and done deal if he is good.
 
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Eddie Lacy, signed $3 million guaranteed, $5.5 mil 1 year deal.

Interesting. I don't mind the signing, his style fits. He's only 26. Has the Beast Mode type of running style. But has shown issues with being fat and getting injured. So if he can turn that around, then it could work out really well. If not, at least it will push Rawls & Prosise.





Agent: RB Eddie Lacy agrees to terms with Seahawks