and as for you jae ill, since when is faith considered being irrational, you have never seen a million $ but you believe it exists, you are now being irrational and not very reasonable, and i know i know, your gonna say other people have seen it and youve seen the effects of it such as buildings and what not, well people have seen the effects of god when prayers get answered, and if you read the bible, the deciples seen jesus, and the author of revalations (i believe its john) says he seen god in heaven. you always got sumthin to say bout s4s posts and i think its funny cause in it u usually contradict yourself to try and shoot down what he is saying