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KAYVEE,
WOULD YOU gET FAKE TITTIES THEN?

STOCKTON said:
So if you dressed like a ho, you wouldn't mind people thinking you're a Ho? So if you get raped, you won't change the way you dress? But before you answer that, EDJ do you know the woman personally and how she presents herself?
YUP. VERY INTELLECTUALLY INCLINED. IF A MUTHA-FUKA CAME UP ON HER HE BETTER TREAT HER LIKE A QUEEN AND KEEP HER.
 
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KAYVEE,
WOULD YOU gET FAKE TITTIES THEN?



YUP. VERY INTELLECTUALLY INCLINED. IF A MUTHA-FUKA CAME UP ON HER HE BETTER TREAT HER LIKE A QUEEN AND KEEP HER.
me personally? no i could spend that money on sometihng else.

~k.
 
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oakraiders9 said:
Pope Cockton, if a man rapes 100 women in his life, but repents after he died, does he go to heaven?
That's not up to me, put if he rapes after he has repented, IMHO I think it's unpardonable, but the Lord is forgiving. So go figure, but obviously after the first rape, he should already know! So I doubt it. Christians don't always have the answer, there are something, like this for example that only the Lord can answer. Good Question, and wassup with the Brenton Wood?
 
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oakraiders9 said:
^^^ So what if someone offered to pay for them, or they were donating free implants or some shit. Disregard the money issue, would you still get them?

hmm thats good question. let me get back to you on that.

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STOCKTON said:
That's not up to me, put if he rapes after he has repented, IMHO I think it's unpardonable, but the Lord is forgiving. So go figure, but obviously after the first rape, he should already know! So I doubt it. Christians don't always have the answer, there are something, like this for example that only the Lord can answer. Good Question, and wassup with the Brenton Wood?
You didn't get my PM? And I was just wondering because you said they are the lowest levels on earth, unless they repented. I would see them exactly the same whether they prayed to god for forgiveness or if they didn't.
 

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EDJ said:
SO BASICALLY YOU SAYIN' IT'S THERAPEAUTIC TO gET SOME TITTIES? SO YOU SHOULD TREAT SELF-ESTEEM ISSUES WITH SUPERFICIALISM AND gIVE IN TO THE NOTION THAT YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHAS THINK OF YOU TO THE POINT YOU RISK YOUR HEALTH, TO gET A POSITIVE PERCEPTION? DO YOU CONDONE THIS?
question #1: In her case it could be. She probably talked to a shrink and ran it by him. He probably said do it because you want to etc.

question #2: Many women get implants for their own benefit. Some actually get them after operations and medical conditions. She could be getting them for her own reasons which have zero to do with how others think of her.

question #3: If she were doing it for the reasons you listed no I wouldn't, but the fact is none of us know why.
 

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EDJ said:
^FAIR ENOUgH. AND WHAT IS THIS "OWN BENEFIT" YOU SPEAK OF? WHAT KIND OF OPERATIONS AND MEDICAL CONDITIONS DOES BREAST IMPLANTS CURE OR ALLEVIATE?
1. Could be a self esteem or mental benefit. Like a step towards recovery.

2. I didn't say cure or alliveiate. What I said was, "Some actually get them after operations and medical conditions." You can start with breast cancer. one woman said she found the cancer lump after she had the implants (it was not caused by the implant.)


http://www.implantforum.com/cancer.html
 
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EDJ said:
AND WHO'S DOIN' THAT? RAPE IS A REPERCUSSION OF ATTENTION.


Being clubbed in the back of the head, thrown in a trunk, and having your limbs sawed off is also a repercussion of attention. It doesn't mean it's a normal causal relationship as in attraction->attention->rape.

OF COURSE WOMEN DO. BUT IF YOU RAPED TWICE, SHOULDN'T YOU BE SCARRED SOME KIND OF WAY?
Of course being raped will scar you. That goes without saying. It's not something you just get over like a fuckin removed tonsil. Saying that since she was raped, she has to live in a closet, fear men, and cover up her body the rest of her life is 1. presumptuous, 2. judgmental, 3. backwards. It should be the rapist who feels repercussions, not her. It is up to her to grieve or deal in her way. The burden doesn't lie on your judgement as far as what is appropriate for her to be doing.

SO YOU SAYIN' THAT RAPE DOESN'T TAKE SOME SORT OF INTERACTION?
Rape is in no way a normal or expected interaction. To try to tie rape into the normal scope of human behavior with some sort of categorical grouping / argument is like saying "You just bought a candy bar. Buy me a house, since you're buying shit."

The two have completely different dynamics, though they are both technically a purchase. Holding down and raping a girl does not belong in the same category as dating, a phone call, or a weekend boat trip, though technically yes, they are all interactions.

NAW, BUT YOU SHOULDN'T RISK YOUR HEALTH BY SUPERFICIAL VANITY INDUCED THOUgHTS(BREAST IMPLANTS). WOMEN SHOULD BE HAPPY AND PROUD OF WHO THEY ARE(RAPED OR NOT). gETTIN' BREAST IMPLANTS DOESN'T SOLVE PROBLEMS OR SCARS. JUST MAKES MORE.
Who are you to judge at what point someone is risking too much of their health? You most likely drink alchohol and smoke blunts, both of which lead to potential obesity. You have been to the joint and you may have jailhouse or normal tattoos, both of which run the risk of infection and skin cancer. I don't know how fast you drive, or any of the myriad factors affecting your health based on your own decisions.

I agree that people should be proud of their bodies and their natural looks. But some people's lives have undoubtedly been improved by cosmetic surgery, just as some have been damaged. To make a sweeping statement like "it just causes more problems" on some moralistic shit like you know everyones situation and how they feel is short-sighted.

If you had severe acne all your life and that shit cleared up you would be happy as fuck, and the attention you get from other people could very likely improve. The same could be said for a big ass hairy mole comin out the side of a bitches face, or for the girls who got some flat ass chests with nothin but nipples lookin like a 10 year old boy. To say "well it just always causes problems" is ridiculous. If implants for example are nothing but more problems they would get removed the vast majority if not 100% of the time.

The reality is they aren't, and many people are happier after cosmetic surgery.

YOU ACT LIKE THERE AIN'T WOMEN THAT ARE CANIVIN'(SP?) REgARDLESS, AS ANAL AS IT MAY BE, EVERYBODY SHOULDN'T BE gIVEN THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT OFF TOP.
If a black man said to you "this white bitch gave me some dirty ass looks" or "this old white man called me a ****" or "I got followed in a store by a white ass rent a cop" and a white man also said to you "this black man called me a gay ass peckerwood and tried to rob me" or "this black cop pulled me over because im white" or "these black people at a bank gave me horrible customer service and refused to help me because im white" who would you believe first?

The GOM response to this question is "well I would investigate each charge individually" "I wouldnt judge the white guy differently" etc. but you live in an environment in which you see anti-black racism, discrimination, and prejudice as having a much greater likelihood and greater basis of occurance than anti-white racism, thus you would probly give the black man's claims more weight.

In the same way, as we know rapes are underreported, (1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted sometime and their lives, and less than 1/3 of them go to the police) a woman's claims of being raped have a greater weight of credibility than a man's claims that it is just some bitch out to get him.

I think often ghetto men have this sort of love-hate paradigm with women in which they love pussy, but are generally untrustful and dismissive of women, even when it comes to potentially large and serious accusations, and there is heavy groupthink among men not to be seen as giving power or leverage to women.
 

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HERESY said:
1. Could be a self esteem or mental benefit. Like a step towards recovery.

2. I didn't say cure or alliveiate. What I said was, "Some actually get them after operations and medical conditions." You can start with breast cancer. one woman said she found the cancer lump after she had the implants (it was not caused by the implant.)


http://www.implantforum.com/cancer.html
IT'S A SHAME WOMEN FIND COMFORT IN BEIN' SUPERFICIAL. REgARDLESS, I BELIEVE IF YOU HAVE BREAST CANCER AND YOU HAVE TO CUT YOUR TITTIES OFF, OR REMOVE THEM ,THEN THAT WOULD BE IDEAL TO gET IMPLANTS, AND THIS IS THE REAL REASON WHY IMPLANTS SHOULD BE USED.
 

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WHITE DEVIL said:
Being clubbed in the back of the head, thrown in a trunk, and having your limbs sawed off is also a repercussion of attention. It doesn't mean it's a normal causal relationship as in attraction->attention->rape.
YOU MISSIN' MY POINT. NOBODY CONDONIN' RAPE. THE POINT IS YOU CAUSIN' ATTENTION. SOME PEOPLE CAN'T CONTROL THEMSELVES.

WHITE DEVIL said:
Of course being raped will scar you. That goes without saying. It's not something you just get over like a fuckin removed tonsil. Saying that since she was raped, she has to live in a closet, fear men, and cover up her body the rest of her life is 1. presumptuous, 2. judgmental, 3. backwards. It should be the rapist who feels repercussions, not her. It is up to her to grieve or deal in her way. The burden doesn't lie on your judgement as far as what is appropriate for her to be doing.
NOBODY SAID THAT(1,2, & 3). AND THE REPERCUSSIONS ARE THERE, WHETHA YOU FEEL WHOEVA SHOULD FEEL THEM. AND AIN'T NOBODY BEIN' JUDgEMENTAL, BUT YOU. ALL I'M SAYIN' IS THAT IF YOU gETTIN' RAPED, WHY WOULD YOU PUT UP A SIgN NOW?


WHITE DEVIL said:
Rape is in no way a normal or expected interaction. To try to tie rape into the normal scope of human behavior with some sort of categorical grouping / argument is like saying "You just bought a candy bar. Buy me a house, since you're buying shit."
AND YOU gET THIS FROM(THAT I'M TIEIN' SHIT IN)?

WHITE DEVIL said:
The two have completely different dynamics, though they are both technically a purchase. Holding down and raping a girl does not belong in the same category as dating, a phone call, or a weekend boat trip, though technically yes, they are all interactions.
AN INTERACTION IS AN INTERACTION, WHETHA POSITIVE OR NEgATIVE. NOBODY TALKIN' ABOUT THE DYNAMICS , BUT YOU.


WHITE DEVIL said:
Who are you to judge at what point someone is risking too much of their health? You most likely drink alchohol and smoke blunts, both of which lead to potential obesity. You have been to the joint and you may have jailhouse or normal tattoos, both of which run the risk of infection and skin cancer. I don't know how fast you drive, or any of the myriad factors affecting your health based on your own decisions.
I HAVE NO TATTS. SO DON'T ASSUME N-E-THANg. I AIN'T TOO FOND OF NEEDLES OR ANOTHA MAN OVER ME WITH MY BLOOD ALL OVER. IF I DID, I'D BE RICH AS A TATTOO ARTIST MYSELF. N-E-HOW, I AIN'T JUDgIN' BUT STATIN' THE OBVIOUS. I HARDLY DRINK EITHA AND JUST QUIT SMOKIN' CHRONIC(EVEN THOUgH I JUST STARTED BAK JUST THE OTHA DAY). SO DON'T ASSUME N-E-THANg. REgARDLESS, gETTIN' UNDA THE KNIFE FOR SUPERFICIAL REASONS AIN'T WORTH IT. I HAVE A SISTA THAT DONE THIS. YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO LOVE YOURSELF.

WHITE DEVIL said:
I agree that people should be proud of their bodies and their natural looks. But some people's lives have undoubtedly been improved by cosmetic surgery, just as some have been damaged. To make a sweeping statement like "it just causes more problems" on some moralistic shit like you know everyones situation and how they feel is short-sighted.
NAW, I JUST KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF AND LOVE YOURSELF BEFORE N-E-BODY ELSE DOES. PEOPLE ARE gOIN' CRAZY WITH IMPLANTS AND COSMETIC SURgERIES NOWADAYS. LIKE IT'S A FAD.

WHITE DEVIL said:
If you had severe acne all your life and that shit cleared up you would be happy as fuck, and the attention you get from other people could very likely improve. The same could be said for a big ass hairy mole comin out the side of a bitches face, or for the girls who got some flat ass chests with nothin but nipples lookin like a 10 year old boy. To say "well it just always causes problems" is ridiculous. If implants for example are nothing but more problems they would get removed the vast majority if not 100% of the time.

The reality is they aren't, and many people are happier after cosmetic surgery.
LOL. CUZZ SAID 10 YEAR OLD BOY. I AgREE IN SOME INTSANCES COSMETIC SURgERY IS NECESSARY AND IDEAL. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT KEEP gOIN' TO gET BIgKER AND BIgKER TITTIES, OR THAT DON'T EVEN NEED IT, THEN THAT SHIT IS UNECESSARY.


WHITE DEVIL said:
If a black man said to you "this white bitch gave me some dirty ass looks" or "this old white man called me a ****" or "I got followed in a store by a white ass rent a cop" and a white man also said to you "this black man called me a gay ass peckerwood and tried to rob me" or "this black cop pulled me over because im white" or "these black people at a bank gave me horrible customer service and refused to help me because im white" who would you believe first?
I'M gOIN' FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND HOW I SEE LIFE. AND IN MY EXPERIENCE I KNOW THE WHITE MAN AND WHITE SOCIETY IS ON TOP. SO WHAT THE FUK YOU THINK?

WHITE DEVIL said:
The GOM response to this question is "well I would investigate each charge individually" "I wouldnt judge the white guy differently" etc. but you live in an environment in which you see anti-black racism, discrimination, and prejudice as having a much greater likelihood and greater basis of occurance than anti-white racism, thus you would probly give the black man's claims more weight.
OF COURSE. BUT YOU CAN'T gENERALIZE WHAT THE GOM ANSWER WOULD BE. TOO MANY PERSPECTIVES.

WHITE DEVIL said:
In the same way, as we know rapes are underreported, (1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted sometime and their lives, and less than 1/3 of them go to the police) a woman's claims of being raped have a greater weight of credibility than a man's claims that it is just some bitch out to get him.
SEE, YOU WOULD HAVE A POINT, IF YOU SAID THAT MEN gET RAPED. BUT THAT'S THE THANg, SOME MEN FEEL THAT THEY AIN'T RAPED A WOMAN IN SOME INSTANCES, WHILE SOME WOMEN WILL LEAD AND TEASE YOU ON AND "TECHNICALLY" CAN CALL RAPE WHILE YOU STILL POUNDIN' IT CONSENTLY. SO IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT IS CONSIDERED RAPE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S A gRAY AREA IN A LOT OF INSTANCES.

WHITE DEVIL said:
I think often ghetto men have this sort of love-hate paradigm with women in which they love pussy, but are generally untrustful and dismissive of women, even when it comes to potentially large and serious accusations, and there is heavy groupthink among men not to be seen as giving power or leverage to women.
FUK WHAT YOU THINK. KNOW ABOUT IT. IT AIN'T JUST "gHETTO MEN". WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE TRUSTED OFF TOP. YOU HAVE TO gET TO KNOW A WOMAN BEFORE ALL THAT. YOU SOUND LIKE SOME HAPPY gO LUKY gULLIBLE TYPE THAT WILL gET gOT. WHAT WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN? AND WHY WOULD YOU gIVE LEVERAgE TO WOMEN, OR N-E OTHA MAN FOR THAT MATTER?
 
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EDJ said:
SOME PEOPLE CAN'T CONTROL THEMSELVES.[/B]
I guess this is the crux of where our arguments diverge. People who physically cannot control themselves from raping women need to be institutionalized, forcibly drugged, or chemically castrated.

ALL I'M SAYIN' IS THAT IF YOU gETTIN' RAPED, WHY WOULD YOU PUT UP A SIgN NOW?
Rape, like I said, is not a normal part of male attention. A bitch could walk down the street in a bikini and a g-string and that still doesn't give a man the right to rape.

The "cant control it" argument is like moms with bad ass bebe kids who dont discipline them and dont even try talkin bout "oh theres nothing I can do" while the kid draws a dick on the wall with a sharpie. Men have the ability to control their dicks.

The whole "but my weewee was hard" argument is some little kid shit. Men that try and play that shit are actin like some 5 year olds. Theres a reason people grow out of diapers as well. If you are literally controlled by your dick to the point where you are committing rape, you got serious issues that need attention. It's not a normal or acceptable part of male activity.

REgARDLESS, gETTIN' UNDA THE KNIFE FOR SUPERFICIAL REASONS AIN'T WORTH IT. I HAVE A SISTA THAT DONE THIS. YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO LOVE YOURSELF.
I agree with this statement. However, it is much easier to say this than deal with it yourself when ya facial lookin all tore up like some n***s took a bat to your shit.

PEOPLE ARE gOIN' CRAZY WITH IMPLANTS AND COSMETIC SURgERIES NOWADAYS. LIKE IT'S A FAD.[/B]
I agree it's getting bad. It used to be where I had to travel to LA to see Malibu Barbie / Ken doll lookin people with hella procedures done, and I'm starting to see it in the corporate and financial services scene up here as well.

I mean, higher level male execs often get manicures, some get facial waxing, and all sorts of other shit. I never really tripped on it much until I started seeing people who have noticeably had plastic surgery in the Bay at many companies. It's somewhat disconerting. Reminds me alot of LA and Malibu.

I don't play that shit, manicures, waxing, facials, or otherwise. If you, as a man, have to go to a beauty salon to get taken seriously, you have problems.

I AgREE IN SOME INTSANCES COSMETIC SURgERY IS NECESSARY AND IDEAL. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT KEEP gOIN' TO gET BIgKER AND BIgKER TITTIES, OR THAT DON'T EVEN NEED IT, THEN THAT SHIT IS UNECESSARY.
I agree.

SO IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT IS CONSIDERED RAPE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S A gRAY AREA IN A LOT OF INSTANCES.
There is a big difference between forcible rape and sex that later is called rape for one reason or another. I do believe the latter circumstance may still be considered rape, but it is a complicated issue.

IT AIN'T JUST "gHETTO MEN". WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE TRUSTED OFF TOP. YOU HAVE TO gET TO KNOW A WOMAN BEFORE ALL THAT. WHAT WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN? AND WHY WOULD YOU gIVE LEVERAgE TO WOMEN, OR N-E OTHA MAN FOR THAT MATTER?
I believe it is much more about the sort of company you keep and the type of people you associate with. Many of my folks who talk about how scanless and connivin women are 1. dont / cant see the warning signs of that type of woman, 2. are that way themselves 3. dont really give a fuck as long as they slammin it.

And yes, there are advantages to compromise, give-and-take, and consensus in situations. The type that always tries to win every battle and have their own needs met or their own viewpoint stressed or goals reached often lose out on opportunities and are excluded from others.
 

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WHITE DEVIL said:
I guess this is the crux of where our arguments diverge. People who physically cannot control themselves from raping women need to be institutionalized, forcibly drugged, or chemically castrated.
TALK ABOUT BEIN' JUDgEMENTAL. BUT ALL SITUATIONS ARE DIFFERENT. I gUESS WHEN I'M ALREADY IN SOME PUSSY AND ABOUT TO NUT AND SHE SAYS "STOP", I'M gONNA IMMEDIATELY JUMP OFF CAUSE "I WANNA CONTROL MYSELF".:confused:



WHITE DEVIL said:
Rape, like I said, is not a normal part of male attention. A bitch could walk down the street in a bikini and a g-string and that still doesn't give a man the right to rape.
NOBODY SAYS IT gIVES N-E-ONE THE RIgHT. BUT IT DO BRINg ABOUT LUST, THOUgHTS, DESIRES, AND N-E-BODY THAT'S WEAK-MINDED, WILL gO THAT ROUTE OF THAT TEMPTATION.

WHITE DEVIL said:
The "cant control it" argument is like moms with bad ass bebe kids who dont discipline them and dont even try talkin bout "oh theres nothing I can do" while the kid draws a dick on the wall with a sharpie. Men have the ability to control their dicks.
AND I KNOW THIS. THE QUESTION, WILL MOST ATTEMPT TO DO SO?

WHITE DEVIL said:
The whole "but my weewee was hard" argument is some little kid shit. Men that try and play that shit are actin like some 5 year olds. Theres a reason people grow out of diapers as well. If you are literally controlled by your dick to the point where you are committing rape, you got serious issues that need attention. It's not a normal or acceptable part of male activity.
NOBODY SAID IT WAS. AND I'M NOT CONDONIN' RAPE, SO AgAIN REFRAIN FROM ACTIN' LIKE I DO.
BTW, 5 YEAR OLDS DON'T WORRY ABOUT SEX OR IF THEY WEE-WEE gETS HARD.


WHITE DEVIL said:
I agree with this statement. However, it is much easier to say this than deal with it yourself when ya facial lookin all tore up like some n***s took a bat to your shit.
THAT'S THE THANg, ONE IS COSMETIC IF IT'S NECESSARY AND THE OTHA IS COSMETIC TO OVER-EMPHASIZE THAT STRUCTURE.


WHITE DEVIL said:
I agree it's getting bad. It used to be where I had to travel to LA to see Malibu Barbie / Ken doll lookin people with hella procedures done, and I'm starting to see it in the corporate and financial services scene up here as well.
IT IS KILLA KALI. LOL IT'S THE WHOLE WORLD gETTIN' ALL SUPERFICIAL.

WHITE DEVIL said:
I mean, higher level male execs often get manicures, some get facial waxing, and all sorts of other shit. I never really tripped on it much until I started seeing people who have noticeably had plastic surgery in the Bay at many companies. It's somewhat disconerting. Reminds me alot of LA and Malibu.
MANICURES AND PEDICURES IS DIFFERENT THAN PLASTIC SURgERY.

WHITE DEVIL said:
I don't play that shit, manicures, waxing, facials, or otherwise. If you, as a man, have to go to a beauty salon to get taken seriously, you have problems.
HOW SO? WHY CAN'T A MAN PAMPER HIMSELF?



WHITE DEVIL said:
There is a big difference between forcible rape and sex that later is called rape for one reason or another. I do believe the latter circumstance may still be considered rape, but it is a complicated issue.
TELL ME ABOUT IT.



WHITE DEVIL said:
I believe it is much more about the sort of company you keep and the type of people you associate with. Many of my folks who talk about how scanless and connivin women are 1. dont / cant see the warning signs of that type of woman, 2. are that way themselves 3. dont really give a fuck as long as they slammin it.
OR IF THEY DON'T SEE THE SIgNS IS CAUSE THE OTHA PERSON HID THEM AND THEY WERE TOO QUIK TO gIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.

WHITE DEVIL said:
And yes, there are advantages to compromise, give-and-take, and consensus in situations. The type that always tries to win every battle and have their own needs met or their own viewpoint stressed or goals reached often lose out on opportunities and are excluded from others.
MAYBE SO. I KNOW IN THESE PAST FEW YEARS, MY CHARACTER HAS BUILD UP JUST ON THE STRENgTH THAT I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO SWALLOW MY PRIDE IN A FEW INSTANCES.
 

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^WELL, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM(CONTRADICTION) IN THAT(BEIN' A LADY IN THE STREETS AND A FREAK IN THE BED). THE PROBLEM LAYS WHEN A WOMAN IS A WHORE AND THEN FRONTS LIKE SHE AIN'T AND WANTS THE RESPECT RESERVED FOR A LADY. BUT ALL WOMEN AIN'T THE SAME.