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Jake
03-06-2005, 02:32 AM
was waiting for nuttkase to make this thread,didnt know what was taking him so long but figured i would take it upon myself,haha

so anybody have it yet? opinions? comparisons to"de-loused..."?

Nuttkase
03-06-2005, 02:58 AM
LOL...

That is a good question LMFAO. I think it is a big step up from De-Loused In the Comatorium. Even though I understand very little spanish (even though most of my friends are hispanic go figure) even the songs (or shifts) in spanish had me amazed. While De-Loused is a classic album IMO the group seemed alot more focused (or I guess used to playing with each other) on this album.

I had the bootleg well in advance, but didn't listen to it much. I really wanted to wait for the actual release to soak it all in. The story is great and I like that they have the lyrics in the booklet. Omar is IMO the best guitarist that is still making music ( Tom of Rage and Audioslave might be a tie)

This album seriously blows my mind. Cedric's vocals are amazing on the album. The lyrics are more or less like poetry IMO. I think it is better than De-Loused which is pretty fucking hard to believe.

The title track "Frances the Mute" which is not on the album (go figure) is supposed to be released in April. It is around 20 minutes long so I have heard. The lyrics to the song are on the print under the cd.

What did you think of the album SiccFucc? Also what did you think of De-Loused? Besides B-Buzz saying something about you guys talking about them I never even knew you had heard of them LOL.

Give a listen to some of the At the Drive In albums too. They are really great. If you need any info on the ATDI hit me up and the PM.

Nuttkace

B-Buzz
03-06-2005, 03:08 AM
I just bought it last night, listening to it for the 3rd time in a row right now.

I like it a lot so far, maybe a few more listens and Ill start comparing it to De-Loused lol

But Im so fucking confused about The Widow & Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Umbilical Syllables (Which might be the greatest track name of all time lol)
Nuttkase, can you fill me in on this? Did they mess up and name the video/ single the wrong name or something? lol

Jake
03-06-2005, 03:09 AM
yeah,i caught some second hand ATDI info from b-buzz that you had told him about...been checking out some tracks off relationship of command,sounds great from what i have heard,going to have to definitly pick up some of those releases as well

Nuttkase
03-06-2005, 03:12 AM
I don't really get what you mean Buzz. I am kind of drunk LMFAO.

The cd is really only 5 songs with "shifts,movements,etc" but on the cd there is 12 tracks. I don't know how that happend. If it was supposed to be like that or not.

But like I said I am kinda of fucked up. Can you clear up your question for me LMFAO or atleast try and I can reply in a more sober state.

Nuttkace

Nuttkase
03-06-2005, 03:16 AM
Also did you check out either of those Interpol cds yet Buzz. Swoop them up man. Trust me you will like them.

Nuttkace

Jake
03-06-2005, 03:18 AM
i have yet to get frances,i have been late on the mars volta train...have heard about them for awhile now but never bothered to check them out until i seen you and buzz and several other ppl on various message boards talking about the upcoming album...so as of now all i have is de-loused...have only had it for a week now and the more i listen to it the more i like it...i reallly like the musical aspect of their albums,its the same reason i like bands like pink floyd and tool,i like songs with originality in their sound,and enjoy long tracks with changes of tempo...am really feeling this album so far and looking forward to frances cause from what i have heard its even better,just want to enjoy this one before i jump into something else

B-Buzz
03-06-2005, 03:27 AM
I don't really get what you mean Buzz. I am kind of drunk LMFAO.

The cd is really only 5 songs with "shifts,movements,etc" but on the cd there is 12 tracks. I don't know how that happend. If it was supposed to be like that or not.

But like I said I am kinda of fucked up. Can you clear up your question for me LMFAO or atleast try and I can reply in a more sober state.

Nuttkace

you lush, lol

I mean how the single they have out now being played on the radio and tv is called The Widow, but the song on the album called The Widow is a completely different song from the radio/tv single. And the song that plays for The Widow radio/tv single is actually Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Umbilical Syllables.

lmao, anyone who doesnt have the album is gonna be utterly confused by what I just wrote

Nuttkase
03-06-2005, 03:35 AM
LOL. okay I see what you are saying but you are wrong (sorry to sound harsh LOL)

Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus is track one. All of the a,b,c,d are within track one. The Widow is track two. L' Via L Viaquez is track three. Track four is Miranda the Ghost Just Isn't Holly Anymore is the fourth track, but it is here where for some reason the album instead of being tracks with movements (IE on the tracklist A,B,C,D,etc) seems to make them into their own seperate tracks on the cd. Does that make any sense to you? LMFAO....like I said I am sort of fucked up so I might not have explained that all to clearly LOL.

Nuttkace

B-Buzz
03-06-2005, 04:03 AM
lol, I think youre too drunk to get what Im saying and Im too tired to explain it the way I want to.

I know theres only 4 songs, I read an interview where they said they had to split them up because the record label would have called it an EP and they would've still owed them an LP, so they split the songs up to make it an LP.

Im saying that the single they have out right now is called The Widow. But on the album the song thats called The Widow is not the same song thats being played on radio/tv. The song thats being played on radio/tv is Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus: Umbilical Syllables (Or the 2nd part of the Cygnus... song if you wanna be a dick about it lol) but it is credited as being called The Widow.

I think thats the way I want it worded, lol, I hopw you get what Im saying now

Psilo707
03-06-2005, 11:38 PM
I still need to cop it. I aint dloading either, im gonna go out and put down the fades for some quality music. Because De-Loused was one of the best rock cd's of the year and god damn, they blew me away in concert when they opened for a Perfect Circle. Nothin but a 45 min jam session

B-Buzz
03-06-2005, 11:49 PM
It was $6.99 at best buy and $5.99 at circuit city last week, Im not sure if it still is though. The regular price tag was $9.99 so I figure it was just for the opening week that it was at the cheaper price.
75 minutes of music for $6.99, cant beat that

Rusto
03-07-2005, 12:30 AM
ok, yall convinced, im gonna go buy that tomorow.

m.w.merlino
03-30-2005, 11:09 PM
i usually only listen to hip hop...i just d/l'ed this cd tonight and its fuckin mind blowing...i can safely say these guys are the led zepplin of my generation.

Nuttkase
03-31-2005, 12:21 AM
i usually only listen to hip hop...i just d/l'ed this cd tonight and its fuckin mind blowing...i can safely say these guys are the led zepplin of my generation.

That is great. I am glad you liked the album Kryptic. You should check out their first one (well full length album) " De-Loused In the Comatorium" I am sure if you liked " Frances the Mute" you will like De-loused. Just wondering seeing you liked the album are you going to pick up a actual copy? They are only like $7.99-10.00 at most stores. Either way I am glad you liked the album. I still personally like De-Loused a little more but I like Frances more and more every time I listen to it.

Nuttkace

B-Buzz
03-31-2005, 12:26 AM
^^ You still havent answered me lol

Nuttkase
03-31-2005, 12:30 AM
^^ You still havent answered me lol

What was you question? About the tracklisting still? That is all I can see from previous posts on here.

Nuttkace

Jake
03-31-2005, 12:39 AM
de-loused > frances the mute

B-Buzz
03-31-2005, 01:19 AM
What was you question? About the tracklisting still? That is all I can see from previous posts on here.

Nuttkace

ya the whole widow/ cygnus thing. I still havent herd anything about that

Nightbreed
03-31-2005, 09:34 AM
i just got this cd last week and i love it. its good to see there are still some great musicians out there and not just all that studio packaged garbage that is pushed on us daily. i really appreciate these guys and look foward to seeing and hearing more from them.

Gringo Starr
03-31-2005, 09:38 AM
I remembered when i first got my hands on Mars Volta's first album...a buddy of mine said it was dope and different...i never listened to it...one night i went to this bar and this illuminating song was belting from the jukebox...i was in a trance...i went over to see who and what it was..wouldnt you know it?MARS FUCKIN VOLTA!!!!I went home...slapped that bastard in...and played it non-stop for a WEEK...and now ive lost it...so i need to buy BOTH albums when i find em....

m.w.merlino
03-31-2005, 11:34 AM
hell yea imma buy a copy...probly get both of em

INDIGO
04-01-2005, 03:09 AM
Frances is really good but I like De-Loused more... For now anyway.

M-1
04-12-2005, 08:28 AM
i finally started listenin to this album this week, and it's amazinG. As of riGht now, I think De-Loused is a little better. I aGree on this one they seem more focused, but I think I appreciated the chaos, it seemed fittinG. On a side note, can somebody school me on Interpol? What kind of sound do they have?

B-Buzz
04-12-2005, 07:39 PM
i finally started listenin to this album this week, and it's amazinG. As of riGht now, I think De-Loused is a little better. I aGree on this one they seem more focused, but I think I appreciated the chaos, it seemed fittinG. On a side note, can somebody school me on Interpol? What kind of sound do they have?
Id say theyre kind of like a new wave, prog rock british sound. Ill let Nuttkase take this one...

Nuttkase
04-12-2005, 07:51 PM
Id say theyre kind of like a new wave, prog rock british sound. Ill let Nuttkase take this one...

For a second there I thought you were describing The Mars Volta sound LMFAO. I was like what the fuck. Than I re-read the question. LOL

It is kind of hard to categorize Interpols sound. They do have some moments where they sound prog. rock. They get alot of comparisons to Joy Divison which is a great band from the 1980's. I can see the similarities but Interpol does have their own sound. I am not good at describing how bands sound but Interpol for the most part are pretty mellow but not like Coldplay type mellow if that makes sense LOL. If you have heard and liked their song "Evil" that is getting good play on MTV2 then I would say you will like their albums.

Persoanlly I can listen to both their albums from front to back. I would pick up "Turn On the Bright Lights" first and then quickly go and buy "Antics" LOL.

Hope maybe that helped a little.

Nuttkace

INDIGO
04-22-2005, 07:38 PM
ye ye ... just got tickets for their show out here.. i'll post how it was in a couple weeks :eek:

Psilo707
04-22-2005, 08:07 PM
I saw Interpol in concert at BFD2003, and god damn, the thing I remember most about them is the amount of cigarettes they smoked. Now i got a lot of friends that chain smoke, but these fools EACH went through a pack during their set, im positive... not one of them was on the stage without a cig in their mouths, hahaha

that was the first time i heard em, and there music is pretty good.

B-Buzz
04-22-2005, 10:10 PM
^^ Im going to see Queens of the Stone Age, Interpol, and Hot Hot Heat on June 3rd. Its gonna be awesome

Nuttkase
04-22-2005, 11:24 PM
^^ Im going to see Queens of the Stone Age, Interpol, and Hot Hot Heat on June 3rd. Its gonna be awesome

You lucky fucking bastard :angry:...I hate you...I really do...LOL.

Hot Hot Heat are pretty cool too. I think Interpol and Queens of the Stone Age are alot better though. That is a pretty diverse line up acctually now that I think about it.

Nuttkace

B-Buzz
04-23-2005, 12:26 AM
ya Ive only herd a couple songs from hot hot heat, I like the new single they got. Theres 2 shows on the 3rd and 4th to benefit a YMCA in chicago, on the 3rd its those 3 and on the 4th its Sum 41 (eww), Rise Against, Unwritten Law and someone else. I might go on the 4th to see Rise Against and then just check out the second stage the rest of the day. Should be dope

SANDMAN
12-21-2005, 09:04 AM
I know this post is more then a couple months old.. but i didnt know people from the siccness posted something about TMV.

I got Frances the Mute maybe a couple months after it dropped because ive seen a lotta people postin TMV in there sigs.. i was like who the fuck are these fools, in a kinda dissing way.. i mean im very opened minded with my music i listen to rap to metal to rock.. whatever.. so i'll be honest i downloaded the album.. Took a listen and couldnt believe how different sounding it was from anything ive ever heard.. i maybe listened to it twice and put it away, but after around the 3rd or 4th listen i was hooked, i couldnt stop playin it.. i just ended up wanting to play it always, and till this day i still do.

What do u guys think about the album/group now.. I think its just really refreshing to listen to this totally original album.. and to get away from all the stuff ur used to hearing.. i mean ive heard some people diss them about there live preformance, especial SOAD fans, because some just dont get The Mars Volta.. To tell u the truth i had only got half of it.. Later i wanted to find out more about them.. i visited a forum "The Comatorium Community" and wow did i find out a lot more.. and just how DEEP this band is.. I dont know if anyone else goes there, but the album they made is pure genious.. i found out that the album is a whole story, and each title of the track is a real person, which also are names in greek mythology.. i dont know its just so crazy how much thought was put into this album.. each line you hear might not mean much when u first listen but then you have to think about it and put everything together and it becomes a story.. each cover they put out has meanings to the story too.. This is one of my all time favorite albums.. its just so unique. anyone else really liking the album?

Nuttkase
12-21-2005, 11:41 PM
I am a huge SOAD fan (as you can tell by my sig) but I really like The Mars Volta alot. Their performance here in Seattle with SOAD was pretty good. They are more of a "jam" band live and I think they would be better in a smaller venue (not in Key Arena like they were.) They put on alot better show when I saw them play with A Perfect Circle IMO...even though they had a ton more fans at the show with SOAD.

I go to the Comatorium but I don't post.

De-Loused was written about a good friend of theirs (a artist from El Paso) that was in a coma for a month before he came out of it...and like a few weeks later he killed himself.

Frances was taken from a journal that Jeremy Michael Ward (RIP) found in his car when he was a cabby in El Paso.

Even though Cedric sings Omar does most of the writing.

Besides De-Loused and France they have a EP called Tremulant (their first album) and a live album that just came out called Scab Dates. Both are very good IMO.

Omar Rodriguez-Lopez has a album out called A Manual Dexterity: Soundtrack Volume 1 that is really good. It is all instrumental except for the last song that Cedric sings on.

Cedric and Omar were in a really really good group called At the Drive In before TMV. I own all their albums and they are all great. But be warned that they dont really sound anything like TMV (except they Vaya EP where a few songs sound like they could be TMV songs.)

I don't know if you knew any of that or not...but there you go. lol.

Nuttkace

SANDMAN
12-22-2005, 07:12 AM
yeah i pretty much found out all about that reading at the Comatorium ..

I agree that TMV isnt for the world.. it just wont work because people are not open to it..yet they complain about mainstream music all the time. I also think there better for smaller venues.. i have yet to see them live, but i have seen there preformance on some bootlegs, they do just do a lotta random stuff, but they build up the tension, then they play somethin u know and BAM, everyone's lovin it...

I think its kinda funny, this is such an (open-minded band).. Everyone either pretty much LOVES this band/album or they just dont get it and understand it.. so they HATE it. U know? its like theres people out there that listen to it and then theres people out there that LISTEN to it.. i kinda have to laugh at people complaining about the "wasted space" in between the vocals.. I actually love how they did that, because they are still telling the story with it.. Most closed minded people are just like.. "What the fuck is this shit. there just fucking around.. start signing again!"

I got into Frances the Mute, before any other TMV album, i cant stop playin it.. i havent listen to anything else in a long time, it kinda pushed me away from Rap even. De-Loused, and Scab dates im just startin to get into.. cant wait for the next album.. but im not getting my hopes up for it to pass FTM..